YART: The REAL problem with religions...

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: busmaster11

Another easy one; tradition. You're forgetting that all religions think that they're the one, true way to reach God/Heaven/Nirvana.

I don't beleive that this statement is true.

*Falls out of his chair laughing* Give me one, single, incident in all of human history where a religious group, as a whole, or even just the heads of, admitted they were wrong. The closest you're going to get, I think, is the coversion of the Roman Empire to the Holy Roman Empire under Constantine.

The whole POINT to a religion is that it is a set of guidelines that one follows if they wish to be saved/have a better live. If you say that the ways of others are just as good, where do you stop? How do you keep your own followers?

-- Jack

There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes his whole universe for a vast practical joke.
-- "Moby Dick" by Herman Melville

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Wuffsunie

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: busmaster11

Another easy one; tradition. You're forgetting that all religions think that they're the one, true way to reach God/Heaven/Nirvana.

I don't beleive that this statement is true.

*Falls out of his chair laughing* Give me one, single, incident in all of human history where a religious group, as a whole, or even just the heads of, admitted they were wrong. The closest you're going to get, I think, is the coversion of the Roman Empire to the Holy Roman Empire under Constantine.

The whole POINT to a religion is that it is a set of guidelines that one follows if they wish to be saved/have a better live. If you say that the ways of others are just as good, where do you stop? How do you keep your own followers?

-- Jack

There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes his whole universe for a vast practical joke.
-- "Moby Dick" by Herman Melville

I don't believe that you're rebuttle applies to this at all. Nobody said that religions never admit their wrong or that they always admit their wrong. He originally stereotyped that all religions believe that they are the one, true religion. The second statement, in effect, said that there are religions out there that believe that no one religion is any more true then another. Jesus. If you're going to argue, a high school reading level should be required.

 

[BladeWalker]

I was Christian for awhile, until I actually read the bible.

In any case I can't tell if someone is Christian or not until he/she spells it out. Statistically speaking, in the US over 90% of the population believe in some kind of god/gods and the majority being Christians. Yet another interesting statistic states that about 90% of all couples have had sex prior to marriage and 50% of all mariages end up in divorce. I gotta say the # of devout Christians are in the minority. That being said Christianity is not very convincing if the members don't even practice what they preach. So I don't really know the big hoopla about Christianity anyway.

Ok, flame away.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: BladeWalker
I was Christian for awhile, until I actually read the bible.

In any case I can't tell if someone is Christian or not until he/she spells it out. Statistically speaking, in the US over 90% of the population believe in some kind of god/gods and the majority being Christians. Yet another interesting statistic states that about 90% of all couples have had sex prior to marriage and 50% of all mariages end up in divorce. I gotta say the # of devout Christians are in the minority. That being said Christianity is not very convincing if the members don't even practice what they preach. So I don't really know the big hoopla about Christianity anyway.

Ok, flame away.

No reason to flame. You have a very valid point. If you're trying to convert someone by breaking the very laws that you're supposed to abide by in your religion, you're probably not going to do a very good job. And that catagory is what most of Christianity falls under today.

 

[PowerEngineer]

Don't forget that unlike other religions, Christ never taught to spread the Christain faith through vilolence.

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It's too bad that over the centuries a sizable fraction of his so-called followers haven't seen it that way.

To the original question, I'll suggest to you that many religions, particularly Christian ones, claim an exclusive link to absolute truth, in which case it makes logical sense that followers have to believe that any other religius beliefs are untrue. It's hard to be tolerant of untruth. It's a basic problem with religions in the West.

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

I don't believe that you're rebuttle applies to this at all. Nobody said that religions never admit their wrong or that they always admit their wrong. He originally stereotyped that all religions believe that they are the one, true religion. The second statement, in effect, said that there are religions out there that believe that no one religion is any more true then another. Jesus. If you're going to argue, a high school reading level should be required.

Yeah, I can read quite well. Can you say "Ambiguity"? I thought you could (And if I wanted to get pithy, I'd comment on your spelling. Second sentence, you want "they're" in this context, not their. Now that we're done acting like kids, can we move on?)

Eesh. Anyway, what Riprorin said was a tad vague. Frankly I hate ppl leaving open statements like that. If you're going to say something in a discussion, back it up with a little to ensure that there is no room for misinterpetation. If Riprorin had added something like "The Bahá'í faith states that there is one God who has worked through the various major religions through time to bring ppl to him, thus making all their belief systems valid" then I wouldn't have had any problem.

-- Jack

You were made in God's image -- ugly bastard, isn't He?
-- Anon