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Nitemare

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I wish we could stop being Black and White and start being friends and neighbors.
I read about Black History the same time I read about history. If need be put more black inventors and leaders in our history books, no need to devote an entire month to it.


When is Hispanic and Asian history month?
 

CT2TXtech

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
I wish we could stop being Black and White and start being friends and neighbors.
I read about Black History the same time I read about history.


When is Hispanic and Asian history month?

Read what Conjur so eloquently just told me

 

SinnerWolf

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May is Asian/Pacific Islander Heritage
September is Hispanic Heritage
November is Native American Heritage
Women have 2 months, August is Women's Equality Month and March for Women's History Month

And for all the Asians who are doubting....here's the facts...

"In June 1977, Representatives Frank Horton of New York and Norman Y. Mineta of California introduced a House resolution that called upon the President to proclaim the first 10 days of May as Asian Pacific American Heritage Week. President Jimmy Carter signed a joint resolution declaring May 4-10, 1979, as the first Asian Pacific American Heritage Week. In 1990, President George H. W. Bush expanded the celebration to the entire month. Public Law 102-450, approved on October 23, 1992, designated May of each year as National Asian Pacific American Heritage Month."
It's called google, welcome to the interweb

With the exception of the Indians, no one in this country is owed a damned thing for the hardships their ancestors witnessed. They overcame adversity for their descendants to have a better life, which many now take for granted and use as a means to abuse others.
 

BatmanNate

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Originally posted by: CT2TXtech
OK, well not trying to spark controversy today, just want to know what the ATOT peeps think of Black History Month

As a rule of thumb, if it doesn't garner me paid time off from work then I don't pay much attention. :)
 

stev0

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Originally posted by: conjur
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Conky

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Why is it the shortest month? They should've thought about that and made it January instead.
 

rh71

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Interestingly enough, what does that say about the other 11 months of the year ? Why should we act differently and would "they" want us to ?

And I agree with NFS4's thoughts.
 

agnitrate

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Maybe I'll actually respond in this one instead of just stirring crap up like I did in the other thread :p

The concept of the appreciation month doesn't bother me. It's like when we have 'Giving Blood Awareness' month. It reminds people that we need to give blood because it is desperately needed in this day and age. However, the concept of a racial recognization month is not what is promoted during this month. I'm all for learning about African-American leaders throughout history. Hell, the Civil Rights movement was one of the most interesting things I learned about in my American History class, even though we never learned about Malcom X (I kinda wished we heard that side of the story).

During Black History Month or Native American History month or whatever the hell it is, it seems like we're saying, 'Don't forget, they're people too!' This is not the mentality we should be reinforcing. It's not like giving blood where it might slip our mind just how important it really is. It seems to promote a 'care about them one day, screw them the next' kind of attitude and that is exactly the opposite of the concept of an appreciation month.

What we should do is teach it in the schools and get rid of the National "Race goes here" month so it's not some kind of schedule that can't be deviated from. If teachers were actually teaching about these groups in their normal everyday lectures, there'd be no need for any of this nonsense in the first place. Integrate it into the schools and stop forcing it onto the blind eyes of the public.

-silver
 

nan0bug

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Originally posted by: CT2TXtech
OK, well not trying to spark controversy today, just want to know what the ATOT peeps think of Black History Month

All you ever talk about is racism.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: CT2TXtech
OK, well not trying to spark controversy today, just want to know what the ATOT peeps think of Black History Month

All you ever talk about is racism.

wonder if someone that only talks about racism could be termed a racist?? ;)
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: CT2TXtech
OK, well not trying to spark controversy today, just want to know what the ATOT peeps think of Black History Month

All you ever talk about is racism.

wonder if someone that only talks about racism could be termed a racist?? ;)
No, no, no. CT2T is a reverse racist because he's black and most of us are white. Get it straight, dammit. :p

 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: CT2TXtech
OK, well not trying to spark controversy today, just want to know what the ATOT peeps think of Black History Month

All you ever talk about is racism.

wonder if someone that only talks about racism could be termed a racist?? ;)
No, no, no. CT2T is a reverse racist because he's black and most of us are white. Get it straight, dammit. :p

oh ya. thats right black people cant be racist, other minorities can, but blacks cant.
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fredtam

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If it helps "blacks" understand the contributions and sacrifices their forefathers made so they could have the oppurtunities they have today I'm all for it. However when I was in school 10+ years ago it was more of a "look what white people did to us month" in which slavery was the major subject instead of the accomplishments of "blacks" in history. Don't get me wrong I don't think slavery should be kept a secret but I do think that it should be taught in the context of the times instead of "oh there was triangular trade and then all blacks were slaves under the harsh treatment of the USA". The fact is slavery was already firmly established long before there was a USA. Without getting to far into it it would be nice to see people get something out of it besides the "you owe us" attitude. I can't say that that is the way its taught everywhere but for us it was. It may just be tha attitude of the south with the whites going "oh we are so so sorry what do you need" and the blacks saying "look what you did to us". Its time to get the fvck over it and move on. Nothing pisses me off more than someone bringing up slavery that doesn't know anything about it and can't name a single civil rights leader besides Malcom X and thats only because they saw the movie.

On a side note an African American friend of mine from the Navy came to visit me a couple of weeks ago. He is from New jersey. We were in a downton Atlanta club with a few "gangstas". He turned to me and said 'Man if they all act like that here I kinda see why you all are racist". Surprised the sh!t out of me.
 

PlatinumGold

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black people in america ARE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMIES.

the black people that are perenial victims, that are constantly talking about whitey this, whitey that, are the ones keeping themselves from good jobs etc.

there is ABSOLUTELY NO reason an able bodied person in america cannot attain some modicum of financial success.
 

nmcglennon

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Personally, I think its dumb. No offense to any african-americans out there. I have friends of all races, and they tend to agree with my philosophy; and thus begins my rant:

Why do we celebrate this? It should just be part of our worldy history. There are plenty of other religions, races, and groups that have been discrimated, enslaved, and persecuted out there; thus, I do not feel like any race, group, or religion deserves any extra special attention, or any special treatment... regardless of what has happened in the past. Whether it be 50 years ago or 5000 years ago, ut should still be behind us. The african-americans can have a "history month", but in that same context I believe all other races, religions, etc. should get a history month as well.

We are all created equal, yet we should all look past race and see the individualities of us all.
 

Ryan

Lifer
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I really don't care abot Black History Month - it doens't affect me at all. I have to agree with the poster above - by singling out one race, we are creating a division between races. If we want true equality, we wouldn't single any group.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: CT2TXtech
OK, well not trying to spark controversy today, just want to know what the ATOT peeps think of Black History Month

All you ever talk about is racism.

wonder if someone that only talks about racism could be termed a racist?? ;)
No, no, no. CT2T is a reverse racist because he's black and most of us are white. Get it straight, dammit. :p

oh ya. thats right black people cant be racist, other minorities can, but blacks cant.
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Hehe...I hate the term "reverse racist". It's just so freaking stupid. Racism is the same thing regardless of who's giving or recieving.

 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: CT2TXtech
OK, well not trying to spark controversy today, just want to know what the ATOT peeps think of Black History Month

All you ever talk about is racism.

wonder if someone that only talks about racism could be termed a racist?? ;)
No, no, no. CT2T is a reverse racist because he's black and most of us are white. Get it straight, dammit. :p

oh ya. thats right black people cant be racist, other minorities can, but blacks cant.
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Hehe...I hate the term "reverse racist". It's just so freaking stupid. Racism is the same thing regardless of who's giving or recieving.

agreed, but what's even funnier is how black people like to claim it JUST for themselves. I've had a black person TO MY Face tell me that minorities CAN'T BE racist and then turn around in the next breath and call me a racist.
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obviously like with all races there are less intelligent specimens within each group so a generalization here will get me called to the carpet BUT. it shows how ignorant people can be. :)
 

Drakkon

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MLK had his dream and so he gets a "history" month....
Now if only Malcom X had his way It'd be "hunt whitey" month...
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Drakkon
MLK had his dream and so he gets a "history" month....
Now if only Malcom X had his way It'd be "hunt whitey" month...
You obviously know jack-squat about Malcolm X.
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Papagayo

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I've heard of it so I'm sure it's there but no one seems to cares..

When I was in the Army, even the black people didn't care for it..

 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Drakkon
MLK had his dream and so he gets a "history" month....
Now if only Malcom X had his way It'd be "hunt whitey" month...
You obviously know jack-squat about Malcolm X.
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Malcolm X was a religous zealot who did more to divide the races than anything else. He would have been perfectly happy killing whites and using his justification that it was self defense ie. in defense of the black race. He is no different than white militia leaders in Montana. He did not change but found a better way to accomplish the same goal.


"It doesn't mean that I advocate violence, but at the same time, I am not against using violence in self-defense. I don't call it violence when it's self-defense, I call it intelligence."


"The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's mission as messenger is to remind America that God has not forgotten America's crimes against his Long-Lost people, who have spent four hundred miserable years in this land of bondage. His mission is to warn America of the divine destruction that twill soon rain down upon her from the very skies above her. His mission is to warn America to repent, and to atone for her sins against God's people...or face complete destruction and permanent removal from the face of this earth...and removal not only as a nation but removal even as a race! The Honorable Elijah Muhammad's divine mission, his message, and his work here in America is the same as that of Noah, Lot, Moses, and Daniel. He is a warner to our white oppressor, but a savior to the oppressed. He is preaching the divine execution of the wicked slave master (whom God can justifiably hold responsible for all sins); but he preaches forgiveness and salvation for the Negro ex-slaves, who have been made so deaf, dumb, and mentally blind by the slave master that no just God could now condemn these American Negroes for their sinful, ignorant behavior.

When The Honorable Elijah Muhammad says "end of the world," he does not mean the end of the earth; he is referring to the end of a race of "world of people," and their removal from this earth: the removal of their world. There are many "worlds" here on this earth: the Buddhist world, Hindu world, Jewish world, Christian world -- Capitalist world, Communist world, Socialist world -- Eastern world and Western world -- Oriental world and Occidental world -- dark world and white world. Which of these many worlds has come to the end of its rope, the end of its time? Look around you at all of the signs and you will agree that it is the end of time for the Western world, the European world, the Christian world, the white world.

The time is past when the white world can exercise unilateral authority and control over the dark world. The independence and power of the dark world is on the increase; the dark world is rising in wealth, power, prestige, and influence. It is the rise of he dark world that is causing the fall of the white world. As the white man loses his power to oppress and exploit the dark world, the white man's own wealth (power or "world") decreases. His world is on its way down; it is on its way out...and it is the will and power of God himself that is bringing an end to the white world.

You and I were born at this turning point on history; we are witnessing the fulfillment of prophecy. Our present generation is witnessing the end of colonialism, Europeanism, Westernism, or "White-ism"...the end of white supremacy, the end of the evil white man's unjust rule. I must repeat: The end of the world only means the end of a certain "power." The end of colonialism ends the world (or power) of the colonizer. The end of Europeanism ends the world (or power) of the European...and the end of "White-ism" ends the world (or power) of THE WHITE MAN.

According to the Christian Bible, Judgment Day is that final hour when God will cause "those who led others into captivity to go into captivity themselves"...and "those who killed others with the sword to be killed by the sword of justice themselves." Justice only means that the wicked slave master must reap the fruit (or harvest) of the evil seeds of slavery he has planted. This is justice! Other slave empires received justice, and now White America must receive justice. According to White America's own evil past, which is clearly recorded on the pages of history, so shall God judge her today.

Before God can bring about this divine destruction, He must first separate the innocent from the guilty, the righteous from the wicked, the oppressed from the oppressor, the exploited from the exploiter, the slaves from the slave master. God never integrates his people with those who are not his people. The Scripture says God will separate his (black) sheep from the (white) goats, and the wheat from the tare. The goats are to be slaughtered and the tare cast to the burning flame...while the sheep are to be gathered into his pasture and the wheat into his barn.

In like manner God has prepared a Doomsday (a day of slaughter, a lake of fire) for this sinful white world of colonizers, enslavers, oppressors, exploiters, lynchers...and all others who refuse to repent and atone at the end of this white world. God has also prepared a refuge, a haven of salvation, for those who will accept his last Messenger and heed his last warning.

White America is doomed! Death and devastating destruction hang at this very moment in the skies over America. But why must her divine execution take place? Is it too late for her to avoid this catastrophe? "