YAMT: Help this is Basic Algebra

VTboy

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Ok so b is in the C(A) if and only if Ax=b is consistant.

So this my question does the C(A) exsist if Ax=b is inconsistant. If it does how will I find it.
 

VTboy

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C(A) is not a formula it is a span. C(A) is the span of the column space of A.

This is a simple algebra problem.
 

Dufman

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Originally posted by: VTboy
C(A) is not a formula it is a span. C(A) is the span of the column space of A.

This is a simple algebra problem.

if it is so simple, why not answer it yourself
 

VTboy

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Originally posted by: Dufman
Originally posted by: VTboy
C(A) is not a formula it is a span. C(A) is the span of the column space of A.

This is a simple algebra problem.

if it is so simple, why not answer it yourself


It has simple answer. But I don't know it. I see you guys helping other people with basic alegbra, but when I ask a simple algebra question no one can help me. Does C(A) exist if the Ax=b is inconsistant.
 

silverpig

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The key is the "if and only if" part. Basically it's saying condition A is satisfied if condition B is, and isn't satisfied if condition B isn't.

edit: just re-read your initial post... I'm not sure what it's saying anymore. Does the column space of A exist? I dunno. Does A exist? If it does, then it has a column space. Or are you asking if b is in the column space of A?
 

Dufman

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Originally posted by: VTboy
Originally posted by: Dufman
Originally posted by: VTboy
C(A) is not a formula it is a span. C(A) is the span of the column space of A.

This is a simple algebra problem.

if it is so simple, why not answer it yourself


It has simple answer. But I don't know it.

me either. so i neffed
 

VTboy

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MAME how would I find the C(A) if A if Ax=b is inconsistant. Would it just be the span of the columns of A.
 

VTboy

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Sorry but I want to know. I am sure someone knows the answer. Would C(A) just be the span of the columns of A if Ax=b is inconsistant.
 

Tweak155

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Originally posted by: VTboy
A simple algebra question

Actually this is matrix algebra...its a 200 level college course so i wouldnt call it "basic" or "simple"

From the sounds of your question, C(A) doesnt exist because it doesnt have a value at every point. You cant just put a question mark in a spot where you need a value...
 

Tweak155

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Originally posted by: VTboy
A simple algebra question

Actually this is matrix algebra...its a 200 level college course so i wouldnt call it "basic" or "simple"

From the sounds of your question, C(A) doesnt exist because it doesnt have a value at every point. You cant just put a question mark in a spot where you need a value...
 

Goosemaster

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I'd TRY to help, but you suck at asking a questions...

Instead of periodically giving us "hints" as to what the problem is, give us the ENTIRE PROBLEM AS IT IS WRITTEN, and then we'll talk


Originally posted by: VTboy
I should also point out that A is a matrix.

lo l
 

tikwanleap

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
I'd TRY to help, but you suck at asking a questions...

Instead of periodically giving us "hints" as to what the problem is, give us the ENTIRE PROBLEM AS IT IS WRITTEN, and then we'll talk


Originally posted by: VTboy
I should also point out that A is a matrix.

lo l

Agreed, the whole problem please. Some of us are smart, but we're not mind readers. :p