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venkman

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
I hope they find these guys and give them ridiculously good paying jobs. This is a note to self moment. If I am ever building a potentially black hole creating / world destroying device worth billions of dollars, I am buying the best hackers in the world to build the security.

Thank god they only wanted to prove they could and not make a half the world economy size firework.

Does this really need to be spelled out to people? The large hadron collider can not create large black holes and it does not have the potential to destroy the world. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a fucking clue and read the articles written by the real scientists who know their shit.

I sense hostility
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
I hope they find these guys and give them ridiculously good paying jobs. This is a note to self moment. If I am ever building a potentially black hole creating / world destroying device worth billions of dollars, I am buying the best hackers in the world to build the security.

Thank god they only wanted to prove they could and not make a half the world economy size firework.

Does this really need to be spelled out to people? The large hadron collider can not create large black holes and it does not have the potential to destroy the world. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a fucking clue and read the articles written by the real scientists who know their shit.

sigh.
 
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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
I hope they find these guys and give them ridiculously good paying jobs. This is a note to self moment. If I am ever building a potentially black hole creating / world destroying device worth billions of dollars, I am buying the best hackers in the world to build the security.

Thank god they only wanted to prove they could and not make a half the world economy size firework.

Does this really need to be spelled out to people? The large hadron collider can not create large black holes and it does not have the potential to destroy the world. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a fucking clue and read the articles written by the real scientists who know their shit.

sigh.

You make an excellent point, sir, but I'm afraid I'm still not swayed.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
I hope they find these guys and give them ridiculously good paying jobs. This is a note to self moment. If I am ever building a potentially black hole creating / world destroying device worth billions of dollars, I am buying the best hackers in the world to build the security.

Thank god they only wanted to prove they could and not make a half the world economy size firework.

Does this really need to be spelled out to people? The large hadron collider can not create large black holes and it does not have the potential to destroy the world. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a fucking clue and read the articles written by the real scientists who know their shit.

sigh.

You make an excellent point, sir, but I'm afraid I'm still not swayed.

My point is it is much more fun to believe that it might make a black hole and it might destroy the world. Otherwise it is just another boring physics experiment that most people could care less about about shit that only barely makes sense when you are stoned out of your mind.

You know Fermi went around during the Manhattan Project placing bets with the average Joe military guards as to whether or not they would ignite all the Hydrogen in the Universe when testing the first nuke. Could it have happened? A ridiculously slim chance... But was it hilarious to insinuate that it might? Probabfuckenly.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: venkman
Link :Q :Q

Well, script kiddies have always been annoying but I never thought one of them would cause the extinction of all mankind and the destruction of the planet.

I felt better when the only thing they were destroying was the English language.

I'd hope more than a script kiddie could get this high up.

Most think all hacks are script kiddies today. Don't know if that's fear or stupidity.

I will say most 'hackers' are script kiddies though.

 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
I hope they find these guys and give them ridiculously good paying jobs. This is a note to self moment. If I am ever building a potentially black hole creating / world destroying device worth billions of dollars, I am buying the best hackers in the world to build the security.

Thank god they only wanted to prove they could and not make a half the world economy size firework.

Does this really need to be spelled out to people? The large hadron collider can not create large black holes and it does not have the potential to destroy the world. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a fucking clue and read the articles written by the real scientists who know their shit.

sigh.

You make an excellent point, sir, but I'm afraid I'm still not swayed.

what are your credentials?

Major scientists are saying they really don't know WTF will happen.

I think you just grabbed on the train and did some quick research and think those opposed to this are wearing tin foil beanies.
 

SagaLore

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Why the hell would the computer systems used in such an expensive endeavor be PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE? There should be no connection from the outside world to the lab!!!!
 

Deadtrees

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
I hope they find these guys and give them ridiculously good paying jobs. This is a note to self moment. If I am ever building a potentially black hole creating / world destroying device worth billions of dollars, I am buying the best hackers in the world to build the security.

Thank god they only wanted to prove they could and not make a half the world economy size firework.

Does this really need to be spelled out to people? The large hadron collider can not create large black holes and it does not have the potential to destroy the world. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a fucking clue and read the articles written by the real scientists who know their shit.

sigh.

You make an excellent point, sir, but I'm afraid I'm still not swayed.

what are your credentials?

Major scientists are saying they really don't know WTF will happen.

I think you just grabbed on the train and did some quick research and think those opposed to this are wearing tin foil beanies.

Major scientists like who? Dr. Evil?
 

frostedflakes

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Mar 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
sigh.

You make an excellent point, sir, but I'm afraid I'm still not swayed.

what are your credentials?

Major scientists are saying they really don't know WTF will happen.

I think you just grabbed on the train and did some quick research and think those opposed to this are wearing tin foil beanies.
Link please to major scientists claiming they don't know what will happen. I'd assume you're taking this out of context, they were probably referring the scientific data collected (i.e. they're not sure if the Higgs Boson will actually be discovered or not). I thought the general consensus among the scientific community was that the LHC does not have the power to cause any world-ending phenomena. Beyond that, though, scientists are probably unsure what insights it will offer into the workings of the universe.
 
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
I hope they find these guys and give them ridiculously good paying jobs. This is a note to self moment. If I am ever building a potentially black hole creating / world destroying device worth billions of dollars, I am buying the best hackers in the world to build the security.

Thank god they only wanted to prove they could and not make a half the world economy size firework.

Does this really need to be spelled out to people? The large hadron collider can not create large black holes and it does not have the potential to destroy the world. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a fucking clue and read the articles written by the real scientists who know their shit.

sigh.

You make an excellent point, sir, but I'm afraid I'm still not swayed.

what are your credentials?

Major scientists are saying they really don't know WTF will happen.

I think you just grabbed on the train and did some quick research and think those opposed to this are wearing tin foil beanies.

I don't have any credentials and I'm not saying you should take my word for it. I have read a shit ton of articles and books on the LHC and particle physics in general but I suggested he check articles from real scientists. Perhaps you should do the same because I have yet to read an article from a credible physicist who is 'in the know' claiming that there is any real danger.

Sure, many physicists "don't know WTF will happen" concerning new physics but there really is no reason to believe that this experiment could lead to a global disaster. There has been a lot of research on the topic and it is conclusive.

As for "yet another boring physics experiment", well maybe if you're not interesting in physics it is. As far as I'm concerned, the worst case scenario is they discover the higgs boson and we complete the standard model of particle physics (awesome!) and best case is we discover some kind of exciting new, exotic physics that was completely unexpected (really exciting!). In between those two scenarios are a whole bunch of possibilities including confirming supersymmetry.
 
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Also let's not forget that particle collisions orders of magnitude stronger than 14TeV have been occurring in our atmosphere for billions of years and yet we still have yet to be swallowed by a black hole or turned into a strangelet soup.
 

SirStev0

Lifer
Nov 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Also let's not forget that particle collisions orders of magnitude stronger than 14TeV have been occurring in our atmosphere for billions of years and yet we still have yet to be swallowed by a black hole or turned into a strangelet soup.

that we know of. the collision could have caused a worm hole that transported the black hole to the other side of the universe.

See isn't physics more fun when you make up the rules.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Also let's not forget that particle collisions orders of magnitude stronger than 14TeV have been occurring in our atmosphere for billions of years and yet we still have yet to be swallowed by a black hole or turned into a strangelet soup.

that we know of. the collision could have caused a worm hole that transported the black hole to the other side of the universe.

See isn't physics more fun when you make up the rules.

"Simple: Change the gravitational constant of the universe."
"What?"
"Change the gravitational constant of the universe, thereby altering the mass of the asteroid."
"Redefine gravity. And how the hell am I supposed to do that?"
"You just DO it. GAHH! Where's that doctor, anyway?"
"Geordi is trying to say that changing the gravitational constant of the universe is beyond our capabilities."
"Well, then... never mind."

- Q, La Forge, and Data



"It's like the laws of physics just went right out the window!"
"And why shouldn't they? They're so inconvenient."

 

SagaLore

Elite Member
Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Does this really need to be spelled out to people? The large hadron collider can not create large black holes and it does not have the potential to destroy the world. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a fucking clue and read the articles written by the real scientists who know their shit.

Agreed. But it can create small black holes.

Interesting read:

http://backreaction.blogspot.c...micro-black-holes.html
 

Exterous

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Jun 20, 2006
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Originally posted by: Jeff7

When it begins operations in 2008, it will produce roughly 15 Petabytes (15 million Gigabytes) of data annually, which thousands of scientists around the world will access and analyse.

:Q

Holy crapstick thats a lot of data!

 

SirStev0

Lifer
Nov 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Also let's not forget that particle collisions orders of magnitude stronger than 14TeV have been occurring in our atmosphere for billions of years and yet we still have yet to be swallowed by a black hole or turned into a strangelet soup.

that we know of. the collision could have caused a worm hole that transported the black hole to the other side of the universe.

See isn't physics more fun when you make up the rules.

"Simple: Change the gravitational constant of the universe."
"What?"
"Change the gravitational constant of the universe, thereby altering the mass of the asteroid."
"Redefine gravity. And how the hell am I supposed to do that?"
"You just DO it. GAHH! Where's that doctor, anyway?"
"Geordi is trying to say that changing the gravitational constant of the universe is beyond our capabilities."
"Well, then... never mind."

- Q, La Forge, and Data



"It's like the laws of physics just went right out the window!"
"And why shouldn't they? They're so inconvenient."

brilliant quotes.
 

OdiN

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Mar 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why would you have key components hooked up to a network accessible to the internet?

That's what I'm wondering. I somehow doubt nuclear missiles, for example are accessible through the intertubes...

slashdot has a informative (well, some parts) thread about it. the huge amount of data generated is (and i only skimmed the thread, not any links) appearently shared between many universities around the globe for processing, at least according to some of the posters

/.

Even still. It wouldn't be difficult to store the data on a on site server farm, than transfer to to another server farm to share. (one that is hot). These guys invented the internet, you think they would know better than this :p

You're right, just would be a lot more expensive.

I doubt they would notice the difference in the amount spent on the LHC already.
 

TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: SirStev0
I hope they find these guys and give them ridiculously good paying jobs. This is a note to self moment. If I am ever building a potentially black hole creating / world destroying device worth billions of dollars, I am buying the best hackers in the world to build the security.

Thank god they only wanted to prove they could and not make a half the world economy size firework.

Does this really need to be spelled out to people? The large hadron collider can not create large black holes and it does not have the potential to destroy the world. Anyone who disagrees needs to get a fucking clue and read the articles written by the real scientists who know their shit.

sigh.

You make an excellent point, sir, but I'm afraid I'm still not swayed.

what are your credentials?

Major scientists are saying they really don't know WTF will happen.

I think you just grabbed on the train and did some quick research and think those opposed to this are wearing tin foil beanies.

I don't have any credentials and I'm not saying you should take my word for it. I have read a shit ton of articles and books on the LHC and particle physics in general but I suggested he check articles from real scientists. Perhaps you should do the same because I have yet to read an article from a credible physicist who is 'in the know' claiming that there is any real danger.

Sure, many physicists "don't know WTF will happen" concerning new physics but there really is no reason to believe that this experiment could lead to a global disaster. There has been a lot of research on the topic and it is conclusive.

As for "yet another boring physics experiment", well maybe if you're not interesting in physics it is. As far as I'm concerned, the worst case scenario is they discover the higgs boson and we complete the standard model of particle physics (awesome!) and best case is we discover some kind of exciting new, exotic physics that was completely unexpected (really exciting!). In between those two scenarios are a whole bunch of possibilities including confirming supersymmetry.

You're a fucking moron!

We all KNOW it won't make a blackhole but it's fun to say it will!
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: venkman
Link :Q :Q

Well, script kiddies have always been annoying but I never thought one of them would cause the extinction of all mankind and the destruction of the planet.

I felt better when the only thing they were destroying was the English language.

Did they get a free iPod or Walmart gift card?