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acemcmac

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Jehovah, I like your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I have some ideas on how to cure this problem you have identified. So far, I have only come up with genocide....







..... the ends justify the means, right? :evil:
hey look everyone, it's Hitler! Hi Hitler!! *waves*

I think if this is done correctly, we can make Hitler look like a child in a sandbox. The only REAL problem I have with mass genocide isn't even the number of "innocents" (intelligent people mis-identified as morons) that would be killed.... it's the fact that I can't think of any objective system to decide who really is a "fvcking idiot." Since that is by its nature a subjective definition, such a genocide would never be pratical unless each individual could stand trial for their own stupidity- which would be horribly inneficient.

I dunno..... <dreams of a smarter gene pool>
wow.

Don't take me too seriously. It's just not possible. Even though the gene pool might be left more intelligent after the fact, there is simply no in-corruptable way of scientifically cleaning it up. Just look at eugenics in the 1930's in CA, PA and other parts of the world.
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: dainthomas
I usually don't get into this stuff, but this article just annoyed me.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...e?AID=/20051213/SCHOOLS/512130355/1026

"He was really into 'Jurassic Park,' " his mother recalled. The trouble was, "we kept reading over and over that 'millions and millions of years ago, dinosaurs roamed the Earth,' " Marjorie Rogers continued. "And that's where I said, 'Hmm -- wait a second.' "

In other words "Hmm, wait a second. Every major principle of chemistry and geology must be wrong because God told me so."

:roll:

Edit: Sorry about putting it in OT, I meant it for P&N. :eek:

I think the "Hmm" was for the millions of years, not she disbelieves that she believes that dinosaurs didn't exist. Considering all the fossil evidence it would be a bit absurd to disbelieve that dinosaurs existed, but no so absurd to believe that they went extinct not millions of years ago, but thousands of years ago.

About 1000 years ago, during the Dark Ages in Europe, God came out of the sky and preemptively placed fossils for our scientists to find today. Unfortunately, the only Gospel written about this was lost.
 

bsobel

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I think if this is done correctly, we can make Hitler look like a child in a sandbox. The only REAL problem I have with mass genocide isn't even the number of "innocents" (intelligent people mis-identified as morons) that would be killed.... it's the fact that I can't think of any objective system to decide who really is a "fvcking idiot." Since that is by its nature a subjective definition, such a genocide would never be pratical unless each individual could stand trial for their own stupidity- which would be horribly inneficient.
I dunno..... <dreams of a smarter gene pool>

Here is the problem with your plan. If you kill everyone dumber than you, that will make you the dumbest person on the planet. Which means, everytime I go for fast food, you're going to be on the serving me.

Think it thru, you sure you want to work fast food?
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Jehovah, I like your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I have some ideas on how to cure this problem you have identified. So far, I have only come up with genocide....







..... the ends justify the means, right? :evil:
hey look everyone, it's Hitler! Hi Hitler!! *waves*

I think if this is done correctly, we can make Hitler look like a child in a sandbox. The only REAL problem I have with mass genocide isn't even the number of "innocents" (intelligent people mis-identified as morons) that would be killed.... it's the fact that I can't think of any objective system to decide who really is a "fvcking idiot." Since that is by its nature a subjective definition, such a genocide would never be pratical unless each individual could stand trial for their own stupidity- which would be horribly inneficient.

I dunno..... <dreams of a smarter gene pool>

You're just as ignorant as the people you'd have killed.

You obviously don't know how population genetics works. Even if you killed all the morons, the genes for them would STILL be in the population. You would have to kill them for HUNDREDS of generations.
 
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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Jehovah, I like your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I have some ideas on how to cure this problem you have identified. So far, I have only come up with genocide....







..... the ends justify the means, right? :evil:

No, my friend. That would be something those ignant ID'ers would do. Our only hope is to pass the word about the One and Only Truth.
 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Jehovah, I like your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I have some ideas on how to cure this problem you have identified. So far, I have only come up with genocide....







..... the ends justify the means, right? :evil:
hey look everyone, it's Hitler! Hi Hitler!! *waves*

I think if this is done correctly, we can make Hitler look like a child in a sandbox. The only REAL problem I have with mass genocide isn't even the number of "innocents" (intelligent people mis-identified as morons) that would be killed.... it's the fact that I can't think of any objective system to decide who really is a "fvcking idiot." Since that is by its nature a subjective definition, such a genocide would never be pratical unless each individual could stand trial for their own stupidity- which would be horribly inneficient.

I dunno..... <dreams of a smarter gene pool>

You're just as ignorant as the people you'd have killed.

You obviously don't know how population genetics works. Even if you killed all the morons, the genes for them would STILL be in the population. You would have to kill them for HUNDREDS of generations.

True, but I was just hoping for a signifigant one time boost. I also never claimed to be a eugenicist. Thanks for pointing that out though. I hadn't really considered that.

Originally posted by: bsobel

Here is the problem with your plan. If you kill everyone dumber than you, that will make you the dumbest person on the planet. Which means, everytime I go for fast food, you're going to be on the serving me.

Think it thru, you sure you want to work fast food?

True, but if the whole population was smarter on the average, wouldn't the whole economy be reshaped?

Necessity is the mother of all invention, robots FTW.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Morons. I usually don't stereotype, but every single person that believe in Intellegent Design is a moron. And that's a fact, not a theory. :roll:

haha nice one:thumbsup:

the problem is that the only people who speak up are the crackpots who think its god or nothing, and give the rest of us a bad rep.

<--- catholic but believes dinosaurs did, in fact, roam the earth and that evolution occurred:p
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Jehovah, I like your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I have some ideas on how to cure this problem you have identified. So far, I have only come up with genocide....







..... the ends justify the means, right? :evil:
hey look everyone, it's Hitler! Hi Hitler!! *waves*

I think if this is done correctly, we can make Hitler look like a child in a sandbox. The only REAL problem I have with mass genocide isn't even the number of "innocents" (intelligent people mis-identified as morons) that would be killed.... it's the fact that I can't think of any objective system to decide who really is a "fvcking idiot." Since that is by its nature a subjective definition, such a genocide would never be pratical unless each individual could stand trial for their own stupidity- which would be horribly inneficient.

I dunno..... <dreams of a smarter gene pool>

You're just as ignorant as the people you'd have killed.

You obviously don't know how population genetics works. Even if you killed all the morons, the genes for them would STILL be in the population. You would have to kill them for HUNDREDS of generations.

True, but I was just hoping for a signifigant one time boost. I also never claimed to be a eugenicist. Thanks for pointing that out though. I hadn't really considered that.

The one time boost would be nonexistent. Eugenics was a pseudo-science, kind of like ID is today. There was more politics behind it than actual truth.

 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Jehovah, I like your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I have some ideas on how to cure this problem you have identified. So far, I have only come up with genocide....







..... the ends justify the means, right? :evil:
hey look everyone, it's Hitler! Hi Hitler!! *waves*

I think if this is done correctly, we can make Hitler look like a child in a sandbox. The only REAL problem I have with mass genocide isn't even the number of "innocents" (intelligent people mis-identified as morons) that would be killed.... it's the fact that I can't think of any objective system to decide who really is a "fvcking idiot." Since that is by its nature a subjective definition, such a genocide would never be pratical unless each individual could stand trial for their own stupidity- which would be horribly inneficient.

I dunno..... <dreams of a smarter gene pool>

You're just as ignorant as the people you'd have killed.

You obviously don't know how population genetics works. Even if you killed all the morons, the genes for them would STILL be in the population. You would have to kill them for HUNDREDS of generations.

True, but I was just hoping for a signifigant one time boost. I also never claimed to be a eugenicist. Thanks for pointing that out though. I hadn't really considered that.

The one time boost would be nonexistent. Eugenics was a pseudo-science, kind of like ID is today. There was more politics behind it than actual truth.

The biggest problem with eugenics is that behavior and intelligence is more of a product of upbringing than it is genetics
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Jehovah, I like your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I have some ideas on how to cure this problem you have identified. So far, I have only come up with genocide....







..... the ends justify the means, right? :evil:
hey look everyone, it's Hitler! Hi Hitler!! *waves*

I think if this is done correctly, we can make Hitler look like a child in a sandbox. The only REAL problem I have with mass genocide isn't even the number of "innocents" (intelligent people mis-identified as morons) that would be killed.... it's the fact that I can't think of any objective system to decide who really is a "fvcking idiot." Since that is by its nature a subjective definition, such a genocide would never be pratical unless each individual could stand trial for their own stupidity- which would be horribly inneficient.

I dunno..... <dreams of a smarter gene pool>

You're just as ignorant as the people you'd have killed.

You obviously don't know how population genetics works. Even if you killed all the morons, the genes for them would STILL be in the population. You would have to kill them for HUNDREDS of generations.

True, but I was just hoping for a signifigant one time boost. I also never claimed to be a eugenicist. Thanks for pointing that out though. I hadn't really considered that.

The one time boost would be nonexistent. Eugenics was a pseudo-science, kind of like ID is today. There was more politics behind it than actual truth.

The biggest problem with eugenics is that behavior and intelligence is more of a product of upbringing than it is genetics

Very true.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: dainthomas
I usually don't get into this stuff, but this article just annoyed me.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...e?AID=/20051213/SCHOOLS/512130355/1026

"He was really into 'Jurassic Park,' " his mother recalled. The trouble was, "we kept reading over and over that 'millions and millions of years ago, dinosaurs roamed the Earth,' " Marjorie Rogers continued. "And that's where I said, 'Hmm -- wait a second.' "

In other words "Hmm, wait a second. Every major principle of chemistry and geology must be wrong because God told me so."

:roll:

Edit: Sorry about putting it in OT, I meant it for P&N. :eek:

I think the "Hmm" was for the millions of years, not she disbelieves that she believes that dinosaurs didn't exist. Considering all the fossil evidence it would be a bit absurd to disbelieve that dinosaurs existed, but no so absurd to believe that they went extinct not millions of years ago, but thousands of years ago.

In order to believe that, one would have to believe that God changed the half-life of Carbon-14 just to mess with all those heathen paleontologists.

If she wants to believe dinosaurs existed several thousand years ago, fine. Devise a scientific experiement to demonstrate this. Until then, quit messing with the education of the thousands of children out there who are TRYING to acquire the knowledge necessary to survive in the 21st century.
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: bsobel
I think if this is done correctly, we can make Hitler look like a child in a sandbox. The only REAL problem I have with mass genocide isn't even the number of "innocents" (intelligent people mis-identified as morons) that would be killed.... it's the fact that I can't think of any objective system to decide who really is a "fvcking idiot." Since that is by its nature a subjective definition, such a genocide would never be pratical unless each individual could stand trial for their own stupidity- which would be horribly inneficient.
I dunno..... <dreams of a smarter gene pool>

Here is the problem with your plan. If you kill everyone dumber than you, that will make you the dumbest person on the planet. Which means, everytime I go for fast food, you're going to be on the serving me.

Think it thru, you sure you want to work fast food?

He eats at McDonalds...
Therefore, he qualifies for the genocide. :p :)
:music: (Southpark style)
bsobel eats McD's
dum dum dum dum dum
should know better, it's high fat
dum dum dum dum dum
:music:

:p :)
 

Slammy1

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It all depends on how you define intelligence. If you define it as a complex interplay of fundamental physical forces that sometimes gives the appearance of intelligence, then maybe all the ID people are correct. The way I look at it is I don't "force" my science on others, please don't force your mystical views of an anthropomorphic deity on me or mine lest I smite thee verily.