Yahoo finally axed external POP email for free users

[lxskllr]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum

 

[Fritzo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum

The guy is hanging around with another guy that's accused to releasing classified military information and has a framework for hacking in place. OF COURSE HE'S BEING MONITORED. You make it sound like he posted "Obama sucks!" on Facebook or something.

 

[lxskllr]

The guy is hanging around with another guy that's accused to releasing classified military information and has a framework for hacking in place. OF COURSE HE'S BEING MONITORED. You make it sound like he posted "Obama sucks!" on Facebook or something.

He's hanging around a journalist who practices journalism. Where the hell do you draw the line, and start caring about what your government is doing?! When you see the troops at the end of the street, you waited too long...

 

[Fritzo]

He's hanging around a journalist who practices journalism. Where the hell do you draw the line, and start caring about what your government is doing?! When you see the troops at the end of the street, you waited too long...

You draw the line at exposing documents that have "CLASSIFIED" on them. If you want to be a military whistleblower, fine. Just be prepared to live with all the baggage that comes with it.

 

[lxskllr]

You draw the line at exposing documents that have "CLASSIFIED" on them. If you want to be a military whistleblower, fine. Just be prepared to live with all the baggage that comes with it.

Assange wasn't a whistleblower. He's a journalist that accepted documents for publication. No different from the NY Times, or Washington Post. The Constitution isn't conditional. There's no "if we like you" clause. It protects the journalists we harass, the clerics we assassinate, and the regular citizens who get their data illegally searched, and seized.

Oh wait, it hasn't been protecting anything. I wonder what's going on around here? Our contract as Americans hasn't been upheld. I wonder whose fault that is. Is it Bush's? Obama's? Or is the people that let it happen without a word said because the government is here to protect them?

 

[Ichinisan]

I've never seen an email client that handles conversations and labels the way Gmail does. Never, EVER going back to a standard client or any other webmail provider unless they do it the gmail way.

 

[mikeymikec]

Why are you even considering that though? It's like saying "I'm going to house my server in a 3 ft concrete bunker because an asteroid might hit it...I just don't want to take that chance".

I think you're underestimating the value of personal data with a response like that. If Google can see a business case for sending vans around taking pictures from every place on Earth they can legally get to, and they're a company that trades entirely in information, then basically almost every bit of data has value.

 

[mikeymikec]

If it's personal email, who cares. If it's work email, you should be using a Google Apps account, not a Gmail account. Google has 13+ redundant email cluster servers...it would be near impossible for them to permanently lose anything (the last time they had a mail-loss issue was Feb. 2011 and it affected .29% of accounts...the mail was restored within a few hours). The worst that could happen is email would be unavailable for a bit, and incidents are very rare.

You've already made a pretty similar point and I already responded to it (see my response to your quoted comment):
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=34955722&postcount=37

Losing people's email, though incredibly unlikely, would not look good for them and cause them to lose users.

People become more dependent on services like these until they reach the point where trying to migrate to another service is either extremely difficult or not worth the effort. The big-name Internet companies are playing a game where the goal is to achieve complete lock-in to their services.

The guy is hanging around with another guy that's accused to releasing classified military information and has a framework for hacking in place. OF COURSE HE'S BEING MONITORED. You make it sound like he posted "Obama sucks!" on Facebook or something.

From Wikipedia:
"Appelbaum is known for representing Wikileaks at the 2010 Hope conference.[5] He has subsequently been repeatedly targeted by US law enforcement agencies, who obtained a court order for his Twitter account data, detained him 12[6] times at the US border after trips abroad, and seized a laptop and several mobile phones."

Is that what you call "monitoring"? IMO that's like calling murder an extroverted suicide.

 

[tcsenter]

Finally getting my external mail again, after some 15 days. Don't know what the problem was.

 

[Vic Vega]

Why would anyone pay for email, let alone Yahoo's? Just go with Gmail.

Gamil is for saps.