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yaGUNt: extension on assault-gun-ban?
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Well lets see....supressors aren't legal without a license anyways, and if you have a criminal background you won't be getting that license. Not only that if you can get a supressor license you probably wont have too much trouble getting a class 3 which would allow you to purchase machine guns made before 1986. So realistically supressors are already heavily regulated and if they "criminals" are gonna break the law and buy a supressor- do you think their gonna follow the law and buy a non-threaded barrel? That's laughable. What's also laughable is that you think a supressor works that well on a rifle. You're still gonna hear that round and know where it came from unless it's way far off. But that's besides the point. The point is criminals will break the law reguardless so only law abiding citizens are being hurt.
Also it's really obvious you've never used a grenade launcher- I'm in the US Army National Guard and funny thing is my position is grenadier which means I use an M203 nearly every month. Unfortunately only get to throw rounds down range 1-2 times a year. Guess what- you can hold the thing upside down and that grenade isn't going anywhere. Do you think they would design something that easy for privates to kill their squad? In fact, grenades don't even arm for approximately 30m after being fired. Suprise! This is to keep friendly fire incidents from happening as much as possible. By the way! It's illegal to own an M203 already! And has nothing to do with this ban.
Do I honestly think someone is going to go hunting with an M60? Hell no- but it wouldn't suprise me if a criminal that had access to an M60 would use it in a crime. But guess what- since that's already illegal to possess I guess the criminal is breaking the law reguardless.
Not only that- explosive devices are already illegal. It's not like you could buy ammo for the grenade launcher legally anyways so the fact that they are banned is rather ridiculous. A criminal is going to purchase the grenade launcher and grenades if they have access to it. It's not like they are going to break one law and all of a sudden see the light and say "well now that I have destructive explosives- I better not illegaly buy the launcher I need".
"I could go on, but you can probably figure out the rest if you use fricking common sense."
Well I could go on as well but I'd rather not argue a point with someone who doesn't have enough "fricking" common sense to do research on something before they come in a forum and start talking about something they obviously have no clue about.
SilentZero
Diamond Member
Well that doesn't stop people from buying pre-ban weapons. You will pay a bit more for them, but if you don't want the weapons features to be limited as much then thats the way to go.
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
On the news they were playing sounds of fully automatic weapons fire and saying, roughly, that "these are the sounds of the guns that the ban protects us from."
They also has some retarded woman saying how the law keeps, "criminals, terrorists, and insane people" from getting guns.
They also has some retarded woman saying how the law keeps, "criminals, terrorists, and insane people" from getting guns.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
Don Vito Corleone
Elite
Agreed, though I don't take issue with it outside the context of the anti-gun debate. It is descriptive, in the sense that a semi-auto rifle with large-capacity magazine, developed for military use, is quite different than, say, a deer rifle.
I think the AWB is the kind of legislation that arises when a group of people who are totally ignorant of a subject (in this case, guns) creates a law to deal with that subject. The AWB is, in my view, an arbitrary and silly piece of legislation that does essentially nothing to protect the public.
I am a gun owner, but NOT a radical Second-Amendment guy, and don't necessarily oppose legislation that imposes some limitations on gun ownership, so long as the laws in question actually provide some measure of protection. I just can't see how the AWB does any good whatsoever.
Question:
So if this ban expires, whats gonna happen then? Could it be reinstated a week later?
Are firearms manufacturers going to start producing these rifles again? Mass production or limited?
Also, from what I undrestood, the AWB made pre-ban weapons very expensive and valuable to collectors because the supply was fixed, is the ban lifting going to kill their value as new weapons come into the market?
just wondering...
So if this ban expires, whats gonna happen then? Could it be reinstated a week later?
Are firearms manufacturers going to start producing these rifles again? Mass production or limited?
Also, from what I undrestood, the AWB made pre-ban weapons very expensive and valuable to collectors because the supply was fixed, is the ban lifting going to kill their value as new weapons come into the market?
just wondering...
Could it be reinstated? Absolutely. Hopefully that won't happen. There's enough other stuff going on it's not terribly likely to get attention soon, when the world doesn't end int he meantime perhaps people will be a little wiser.
Yes, they will be produced again. Most of them have been produced all along, just without the banned features. Full capacity magazines are still in production, just marked with LEO. Once the ban ends those markings will be absolutely meaningless, they wouldn't even necessarily have to change their process (though they will).
Yes, pre-ban values are going to plummet. Gun shops still stuck with pre-ban stuff are going to lose a lot of money.
Even if the ban were to be reinstated in the near future (say a year) there should be quite a nice influx of new hardware to supplement what's out there already.
Viper GTS
It's a stupid, gut-reaction law that makes no sense no matter what your views on guns are. I own and use one of these horrible "assult" rifles for hunting, defense, target shooting, and as a tool of protection against the government if needed.(the intent of the 2nd amendment) Criminals don't use (semi-auto)AK-47's or SKS's, they just don't make sense. Either they use hanguns or if they plan an operation needing the firepower, they will buy better illegal sub-machine guns or the such.
I should take a picture of my wood-stocked SKS and no one could honestly think it would be an effective weapon for crime. (heavy, inaccurate, cheap) This law is based on looks and was only passed for political motives. I can name 100 legal firearms that are much more "dangerous" than any gun with a black stock and clip placement.
I should take a picture of my wood-stocked SKS and no one could honestly think it would be an effective weapon for crime. (heavy, inaccurate, cheap) This law is based on looks and was only passed for political motives. I can name 100 legal firearms that are much more "dangerous" than any gun with a black stock and clip placement.
JulesMaximus
No Lifer
I know. I thought about it as soon as I saw the pic. I was going for an artistic photo (of sorts) and put my finger there intentionally. As you can tell, the gun is loaded but it is pointing at my computer desk which would stop a bullet if I were stupid enough to put enough pressure on the trigger to fire the gun. It has a pretty heavy pull to fire it double action though. Not much chance of it going off accidentally. My finger is on there ever so lightly.
I've probably put a few hundred rounds through it now. Very pleasant to shoot and very accurate.
I had a .357 Magnum with a 4" barrel and found that I didn't shoot it much so I got rid of it many years ago. I like the .44 Magnum very much. It's a keeper. 🙂
TipsyMcStagger
Senior member
Assault weapons have gotten a lot of bad press lately, but they're manufactured for a reason: to take out today's modern super animals, such as the flying squirrel, and the electric eel.
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