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[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: j511180

Originally posted by: cheapgoose
she ain't cute anyway. so all good.

she's quite shiny

Not a 10 by any means... but I'd hit it.

As for the OP. You just need more experience dealing with women. That sh1t about being honest and forward only works with a small minority of women (the desperate/crazy ones). Acting like that makes YOU look desperate. Calling 3 times a week? WTF? I didn't call my GF for like a week after she gave me her number (for the record I made her ask ME for mine, after which she called me so I'd have hers... I never once asked for it). She later admitted to me that it drove her crazy and she was about to give up hope until I called her and "asked her out". Girls don't like needy guys.

I will say this though. The fact that you had the balls to be that forward is good... you just need to redirect that energy into more productive forms of seduction. Once you've conquered the fear of rejection, things get a lot easier. Learning especially is a lot easier.

 

[Special K]

I hate to say it, but this thread is vaguely reminiscent of a skywalker66 thread

 

[91TTZ]

She has a really greasy head. No thanks.

OP, I wouldn't even hit it with your johnson.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: j511180

Originally posted by: cheapgoose
she ain't cute anyway. so all good.

she's quite shiny

Not a 10 by any means... but I'd hit it.

As for the OP. You just need more experience dealing with women. That sh1t about being honest and forward only works with a small minority of women (the desperate/crazy ones). Acting like that makes YOU look desperate. Calling 3 times a week? WTF? I didn't call my GF for like a week after she gave me her number (for the record I made her ask ME for mine, after which she called me so I'd have hers... I never once asked for it). She later admitted to me that it drove her crazy and she was about to give up hope until I called her and "asked her out". Girls don't like needy guys.

I will say this though. The fact that you had the balls to be that forward is good... you just need to redirect that energy into more productive forms of seduction. Once you've conquered the fear of rejection, things get a lot easier. Learning especially is a lot easier.

Agreed with this guy. I made some mistakes myself. But you can be honest and unmanipulative while still having finesse. It is possible. In my case, it was much harder because of outside factors (namely, someone I thought was a good friend made things difficult for me but we will not go into this)

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: weirdichi
I just want opinions on this issue I had with a girl. And I'm ready for the flame-age that's going to go on. I know I'm going to get called a buncha names, but hey, that's your opinion and I'm fishing for it. I'm over the girl, but apparently not over the situation. No cliffs. And no pics. Or maybe I SHOULD post her pic up... Hmm... POLL time.

Here's the story:
I've known this girl for about a month or so. I liked this girl and I told her that I liked her. I laid everything out on the table so that there would be no surprises. I told her that I was an up front kind of guy; I don't beat around the bush, I get to the meat of the issue. I told her that I'd like to get to know her more on a personal leve, that if it leads somewhere then great, if not, then that's fine either. If she didn't like me in that way, then she should tell me directly. I'm an adult, I can deal with situations like that and move on. She agreed to it also. So my definition of getting to know someone is a 1 on 1 basis, not hanging out in a group. For 3-4 weeks, she never returned any of my calls or text messages. I called her about 3 times a week and I thought that wasn't too extreme either. I understood that it was the holiday season and she was also busy with finals for school, yet if she had time to call her friends back, why not spend 30 seconds out of the day to call me back and tell me that she was busy? Unless she truly didn't like me and was giving me signs that she didn't like me. But then again, why not tell me that at the beginning when I told her I liked her?

Being an educated Americanized girl like she was, I hope that she would've figured out that when I told her I in all honesty the truth how I felt, that she would at least given me that honesty in return also. Don't tell me that bullsh1t that girls are like that and they hide their feelings. I know that already. I told her in plain English my feelings. She's not FOB (Fresh Off the Boat), so she understood. So the way I saw it, she didn't even think a friendship between us was worth it, so she lied to me. Save me from all this crap about she didn't want to hurt my feelings. She knew how I operated because I told her. She should've just told me the truth. I think I at least deserved that. I finally got a reach of her and she told me that she just wanted to just be friends (keep in mind this coming after I couldn't get a hold of her to ask her out on a date for 1 on 1 getting to know her time). That's fine and dandy, but if she would've just told me this at the beginning or at least gotten to know me more before telling me this, then I wouldn't be so pissed off. Now she's dating a guy that I know. And if that's not a kick in the nuts, I don't know what is.

I've been over her since the beginning of the year, but when I think about the situation, it just gets me fired up again on how stupid girls are (I draw a distinction between GIRLS and WOMEN, the latter being a little more experienced in life). I was brutally honest, yet the only thing I wanted in return was honesty also. She couldn't even give me that.

Again, the question is: Do I have a legitimate reason to be pissed off or am I just whining?

PIC

Stick with the FOB, they ain't stuck up like the ABC.

 

[spidey07]

DaShen,

Women want a good strong leader that leads them, protects them, provides for them. Somebody that makes them feel "gee, what can I do to make him take interest in me?" It's always a game and it will always be a game. We aren't so evolved that we can dismiss a few hundred thousand years of development.

So it's not how some girls operate, it's how they all operate. They're hard wired in courtship rituals. Use this fact to your advantage.

 

[bennylong]

Originally posted by: spidey07
DaShen,

Women want a good strong leader that leads them, protects them, provides for them. Somebody that makes them feel "gee, what can I do to make him take interest in me?" It's always a game and it will always be a game. We aren't so evolved that we can dismiss a few hundred thousand years of development.

So it's not how some girls operate, it's how they all operate. They're hard wired in courtship rituals. Use this fact to your advantage.

Yea, I think that's why so many girls are attracted to the drug dealers and guys that are in and out of jail.

 

[weirdichi]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: j511180

Originally posted by: cheapgoose
she ain't cute anyway. so all good.

she's quite shiny

Not a 10 by any means... but I'd hit it.

As for the OP. You just need more experience dealing with women. That sh1t about being honest and forward only works with a small minority of women (the desperate/crazy ones). Acting like that makes YOU look desperate. Calling 3 times a week? WTF? I didn't call my GF for like a week after she gave me her number (for the record I made her ask ME for mine, after which she called me so I'd have hers... I never once asked for it). She later admitted to me that it drove her crazy and she was about to give up hope until I called her and "asked her out". Girls don't like needy guys.

I will say this though. The fact that you had the balls to be that forward is good... you just need to redirect that energy into more productive forms of seduction. Once you've conquered the fear of rejection, things get a lot easier. Learning especially is a lot easier.

Agreed with this guy. I made some mistakes myself. But you can be honest and unmanipulative while still having finesse. It is possible. In my case, it was much harder because of outside factors (namely, someone I thought was a good friend made things difficult for me but we will not go into this)

Well, there's some background information missing, so there's reasoning behind my calling. Not that it didn't make me look weird in her view, but that still doesn't change the fact that I still think she lied to me. Thanks for all the input though. And for the record, this wasn't a high school party. It was a graduation party for her graduting college. I'm in the 25-30 range in age and by no means new to talking to girls. I just got fed up with playing the game and thought I'd try a different approach to women. Live and learn, live and learn.

 

[The Stigenator]

yes you have a legitmate reason to be pissed.. i hate women like that..

 

[Schfifty Five]

Originally posted by: weirdichi

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k

Originally posted by: j511180

Originally posted by: cheapgoose
she ain't cute anyway. so all good.

she's quite shiny

Not a 10 by any means... but I'd hit it.

As for the OP. You just need more experience dealing with women. That sh1t about being honest and forward only works with a small minority of women (the desperate/crazy ones). Acting like that makes YOU look desperate. Calling 3 times a week? WTF? I didn't call my GF for like a week after she gave me her number (for the record I made her ask ME for mine, after which she called me so I'd have hers... I never once asked for it). She later admitted to me that it drove her crazy and she was about to give up hope until I called her and "asked her out". Girls don't like needy guys.

I will say this though. The fact that you had the balls to be that forward is good... you just need to redirect that energy into more productive forms of seduction. Once you've conquered the fear of rejection, things get a lot easier. Learning especially is a lot easier.

Agreed with this guy. I made some mistakes myself. But you can be honest and unmanipulative while still having finesse. It is possible. In my case, it was much harder because of outside factors (namely, someone I thought was a good friend made things difficult for me but we will not go into this)

Well, there's some background information missing, so there's reasoning behind my calling. Not that it didn't make me look weird in her view, but that still doesn't change the fact that I still think she lied to me. Thanks for all the input though. And for the record, this wasn't a high school party. It was a graduation party for her graduting college. I'm in the 25-30 range in age and by no means new to talking to girls. I just got fed up with playing the game and thought I'd try a different approach to women. Live and learn, live and learn.

Fill us in on the missing info?

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
yes you have a legitmate reason to be pissed.. i hate women like that..

You hate all women???

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy
yes you have a legitmate reason to be pissed.. i hate women like that..

You hate all women???

Exactly. Most women do this to varying degrees. They expect guys to pick up on "signals", they don't like being straightforward. This is common knowledge. Some girls do this a lot less than other girls, but every girl I have met does it to some form or degree.

Of course guys can use subtlety and manipulation as well, and usually it works, but it is sad to see because they get the girl (toy with the girl) and then leave 'em once they are done or it becomes less fun. Of course these same guys tend to be miserable later on in life, but that is just because they reap what they sow.

It is sad to see people have to go through this. Don't play the "game", you will end up being much happier if you don't.

 

[Skunkwourk]

you can find a million more girls like her, shes nothing special.

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
She has a really greasy head. No thanks.

OP, I wouldn't even hit it with your johnson.

 

[imported_UncivilizedAMD]

Originally posted by: weirdichi
Alrighty, thanks for all your responses. It's time to bury this. I'll leave the pic just to confuse people coming into this thread.

PIC

Too late, it's quoted on page 3 already. You lost your manhood by calling her 3 times a week and text messaging for 3-4 weeks without an answer. You'd have to get the point by like the 3rd call with no response. She sounds immature by not returning your phone calls. You don't really have a right to be mad since its a clear picture that she is not interested in you for a bf.

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: weirdichi
I just want opinions on this issue I had with a girl. And I'm ready for the flame-age that's going to go on. I know I'm going to get called a buncha names, but hey, that's your opinion and I'm fishing for it. I'm over the girl, but apparently not over the situation. No cliffs. And no pics. Or maybe I SHOULD post her pic up... Hmm... POLL time.

Here's the story:
I've known this girl for about a month or so. I liked this girl and I told her that I liked her. I laid everything out on the table so that there would be no surprises. I told her that I was an up front kind of guy; I don't beat around the bush, I get to the meat of the issue. I told her that I'd like to get to know her more on a personal leve, that if it leads somewhere then great, if not, then that's fine either. If she didn't like me in that way, then she should tell me directly. I'm an adult, I can deal with situations like that and move on. She agreed to it also. So my definition of getting to know someone is a 1 on 1 basis, not hanging out in a group. For 3-4 weeks, she never returned any of my calls or text messages. I called her about 3 times a week and I thought that wasn't too extreme either. I understood that it was the holiday season and she was also busy with finals for school, yet if she had time to call her friends back, why not spend 30 seconds out of the day to call me back and tell me that she was busy? Unless she truly didn't like me and was giving me signs that she didn't like me. But then again, why not tell me that at the beginning when I told her I liked her?

Being an educated Americanized girl like she was, I hope that she would've figured out that when I told her I in all honesty the truth how I felt, that she would at least given me that honesty in return also. Don't tell me that bullsh1t that girls are like that and they hide their feelings. I know that already. I told her in plain English my feelings. She's not FOB (Fresh Off the Boat), so she understood. So the way I saw it, she didn't even think a friendship between us was worth it, so she lied to me. Save me from all this crap about she didn't want to hurt my feelings. She knew how I operated because I told her. She should've just told me the truth. I think I at least deserved that. I finally got a reach of her and she told me that she just wanted to just be friends (keep in mind this coming after I couldn't get a hold of her to ask her out on a date for 1 on 1 getting to know her time). That's fine and dandy, but if she would've just told me this at the beginning or at least gotten to know me more before telling me this, then I wouldn't be so pissed off. Now she's dating a guy that I know. And if that's not a kick in the nuts, I don't know what is.

I've been over her since the beginning of the year, but when I think about the situation, it just gets me fired up again on how stupid girls are (I draw a distinction between GIRLS and WOMEN, the latter being a little more experienced in life). I was brutally honest, yet the only thing I wanted in return was honesty also. She couldn't even give me that.

Again, the question is: Do I have a legitimate reason to be pissed off or am I just whining?

PIC

Stick with the FOB, they ain't stuck up like the ABC.

yeh FOBS are less stuck up.

 

[Turfzilla]

Originally posted by: weirdichi
Alrighty, thanks for all your responses. It's time to bury this. I'll leave the pic just to confuse people coming into this thread.

PIC

If you had put pics of me on ATOT and asked the opinion of a bunch of internet addicted work-o-holics, I would burn down your house... Thats me though. She could be into that kinda thing.

TZ

 

[Cal166]

Originally posted by: UncivilizedAMD

Originally posted by: weirdichi
Alrighty, thanks for all your responses. It's time to bury this. I'll leave the pic just to confuse people coming into this thread.

PIC

Too late, it's quoted on page 3 already. You lost your manhood by calling her 3 times a week and text messaging for 3-4 weeks without an answer. You'd have to get the point by like the 3rd call with no response. She sounds immature by not returning your phone calls. You don't really have a right to be mad since its a clear picture that she is not interested in you for a bf.

Originally posted by: bennylong

Originally posted by: weirdichi
I just want opinions on this issue I had with a girl. And I'm ready for the flame-age that's going to go on. I know I'm going to get called a buncha names, but hey, that's your opinion and I'm fishing for it. I'm over the girl, but apparently not over the situation. No cliffs. And no pics. Or maybe I SHOULD post her pic up... Hmm... POLL time.

Here's the story:
I've known this girl for about a month or so. I liked this girl and I told her that I liked her. I laid everything out on the table so that there would be no surprises. I told her that I was an up front kind of guy; I don't beat around the bush, I get to the meat of the issue. I told her that I'd like to get to know her more on a personal leve, that if it leads somewhere then great, if not, then that's fine either. If she didn't like me in that way, then she should tell me directly. I'm an adult, I can deal with situations like that and move on. She agreed to it also. So my definition of getting to know someone is a 1 on 1 basis, not hanging out in a group. For 3-4 weeks, she never returned any of my calls or text messages. I called her about 3 times a week and I thought that wasn't too extreme either. I understood that it was the holiday season and she was also busy with finals for school, yet if she had time to call her friends back, why not spend 30 seconds out of the day to call me back and tell me that she was busy? Unless she truly didn't like me and was giving me signs that she didn't like me. But then again, why not tell me that at the beginning when I told her I liked her?

Being an educated Americanized girl like she was, I hope that she would've figured out that when I told her I in all honesty the truth how I felt, that she would at least given me that honesty in return also. Don't tell me that bullsh1t that girls are like that and they hide their feelings. I know that already. I told her in plain English my feelings. She's not FOB (Fresh Off the Boat), so she understood. So the way I saw it, she didn't even think a friendship between us was worth it, so she lied to me. Save me from all this crap about she didn't want to hurt my feelings. She knew how I operated because I told her. She should've just told me the truth. I think I at least deserved that. I finally got a reach of her and she told me that she just wanted to just be friends (keep in mind this coming after I couldn't get a hold of her to ask her out on a date for 1 on 1 getting to know her time). That's fine and dandy, but if she would've just told me this at the beginning or at least gotten to know me more before telling me this, then I wouldn't be so pissed off. Now she's dating a guy that I know. And if that's not a kick in the nuts, I don't know what is.

I've been over her since the beginning of the year, but when I think about the situation, it just gets me fired up again on how stupid girls are (I draw a distinction between GIRLS and WOMEN, the latter being a little more experienced in life). I was brutally honest, yet the only thing I wanted in return was honesty also. She couldn't even give me that.

Again, the question is: Do I have a legitimate reason to be pissed off or am I just whining?

PIC

Stick with the FOB, they ain't stuck up like the ABC.

yeh FOBS are less stuck up.

I agree with you on that, only slight difference is that ABC tend to be a little more open in minded with sex.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

LOL @ OP for being a crazy stalker, and LOL #2 @ TGG for being angry that she doesn't want to be stalked.

- M4H