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YAGT: Wanting to build ak47 or AR15. Resources?

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amddude said:
I would skip s&w and bushmaster. Look at colt, lmt, bravo company machine--bcm being the cheapest. A lot of manufacturers don't use "mil spec" parts like the barrels are made from softer metal, etc.
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I disagree. S&W is nothing but quality with their AR's, and their customer service is top notch. I have shot several S&W AR's and you definately get a lot of rifle for your buck.
 
amddude said:
Look at colt, lmt, bravo company machine--bcm being the cheapest.
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Do you remember when colt stopped selling their ARs to the general public a few years ago? I boycott all colt products because of it.

Screw colt and their rifles. If I was not good enough to buy a colt rifle 5 years ago, I am not good enough to buy a colt now.

I have owned a colt and a Bushmaster. The only difference I could tell between the 2 rifles, was about $500. Just because a rifle cost more, does not magically make it better.
 
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so how much maintenance associates with owning an AR if you use it regularly at shooting range. How often (like after how many rounds shot) would you have to dissemble it to clean/oil or what you have to do to all the component parts?
 
Binarycow said:
so how much maintenance associates with owning an AR if you use it regularly at shooting range. How often (like after how many rounds shot) would you have to dissemble it to clean/oil or what you have to do to all the component parts?
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Clean it after every use. Its so easy to clean. Pop out 1 pin with your thumb, rip out the bolt and the charging handle and clean away. Cant take more than 5-10 minutes.
 
Building an AR is stupid simple. Buy an upper complete as you don't want to build that part as it takes some skill and specialized tools. Buy a stripped lower, lower parts kit, stock, BCG, and handguards. Assembly takes some basic tools(roll punches, hammer, etc.) There are a ton of youtube videos that show you how to assemble the lower.

Stripped lower is $70-$80, assembly kit with the LPK and stock is $100 form palmetto state armory, and good uppers start at ~$400. BCG go for ~$150. $700 for a good AR is certainly possible.
 
pontifex said:
you mean weld? don't think pinning it on will make a difference.

even then i doubt that would make it long enough.
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By the right one and it will be long enough. And extended A2 from bravo, a Battlecomp 1.5, and several others are designed to be pinned to 14.5's to make them legal.
 
what muzzle break do you recommend? i bought one of those DD uppers but i didnt realize its illegal? heck should i cancel my order !?!
 
luckydragon206 said:
what muzzle break do you recommend? i bought one of those DD uppers but i didnt realize its illegal? heck should i cancel my order !?!
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I built an AR last year off an Aim Surplus Arms & Ammo lower.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.a...+LOW15+Stripped+AR+Lower+Receiver&groupid=214

Pretty inexpensive. Just need to pick up the lower parts kit, a stock and the armorers wrench for the castle nut. Rather than build the upper I bought a Bushmaster .223 flat top upper already put together. With a cheap red dot, a couple of mags and a cleaning kit I think I dropped about $950.

Aim also has PMC .223 on sale for $5.99 for 20 rds. So fairly cheap to shoot.
 
Bought my upper from these guys. The Bushmaster uppers are fairly cheap comparatively.

http://www.pkfirearms.com/Bushmaster_Barreled_Uppers/56/c

Also, here's the how to on building the lower.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=12&f=2&t=75

There's a couple vids on youtube also. If you do build the lower, just take your time and be careful you don't scrape up the finish on the piece. If you poke around AR-15.com they've got some tricks they use putting them together like vise grips with the tips taped up.
 
pontifex said:
can you put a muzzle break on a muzzle break?

that thing already had a muzzle break. unless it screws off, then you're kinda screwed.
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They screw off. But for it to be legal he is going to have to get one pinned and welded to the upper so it's permanent. Either find a local gunsmith that can do it or ship the upper to ADCO, they do great work.

OP: Don't buy a lower until you get the upper pinned/welded with a new flash hider or compensator. Just having them both in the same house can get you 10 years. Constructive intent can be a bitch. If you have a friend or family member that doesn't own an AR that would let you store it at their place would be a good option while you finish on the details.
 
pontifex said:
can you put a muzzle break on a muzzle break?

that thing already had a muzzle break. unless it screws off, then you're kinda screwed.
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I never looked at the pic as I've always seen 14.5 w/o the brake.
But you are right...

luckydragon206P better call them, stat.
 
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