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YAGT - New guns/range report

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Merad

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Went this morning to apply for my CHL and on the way back stopped at the gun store and got a Ruger LCP and Glock 19 Gen 4. Also did my good deed for the day. I had to haggle a little bit on price because this particular store is a little hefty with their markups... Didn't get the price I wanted but got them to shave some off - the alternative was driving across town, dealing with a guy who's kind of an ass, and waiting for him to order the Glock. When I checked out I thought the total seem low, but didn't question it. Took a glance at my receipt at the first stoplight and realized that the guy had entered the Glock in the register as $3xx instead of $5xx... $200 discount. 😵 So I pondered it a few seconds then drove back and told him his mistake. Halfway hoped he'd knock off a few more bucks for honesty, but of course not. Oh well, I hope lady karma was paying attention at least. 🙄

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So first up, "Glock Perfection":

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G19 Gen4, according to the bag with the proof case born on 1/19/12. Comes with 2 changeable backstraps and 3 15 round mags. Field strip and cleaning are easy, although I did make the mistake of disassembling and cleaning the mags. Good lord. Glock does a lot of things awesomely right, but magazine design wasn't one of them - they're a massive pain to get apart.

Off to the range, where I shot about 275 rounds through it, a mix of 115gr FMJ, 124gr JHP and 147gr JHP. I know there were some teething issues with the Gen 4's, but I had zero problems today. The gun did occasionally toss brass back towards my head, but about 95% of it went over my right shoulder. The Glock armor at our range claims that's not unusual even for Gen 2 & 3 Glocks, and I'm not worried about it. I went shooting with the medium backstrap, which is supposed to give the same size grip as the G19 Gen 3. Shot well enough, but in the future I'm switching to the stock grip sans backstrap, as my hand was working its way up on the grip and got a few kisses from the slide (I have big, beefy hands...).

After a couple hundred rounds of having fun and getting used to it I shot this target, 50 rounds of Federal 147gr JHP at 10 yards:

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Next up, the Elsie Pea (LCP), Ruger's pocket rocket:

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According to the proof bag, born on 10/19/2011. Only comes with 1 mag (seriously Ruger?) but does include a soft case. Again pretty easy to strip and clean, just pop a pin out of the side.

Shooting the LCP... well, there's really no way to put it other than saying that this gun isn't fun to shoot unless you limit yourself to a few dozen rounds at a time. I went through about 120 rounds total, mix of 100gr RNFP and 92gr JHP (and my hand is still slightly sore, lol). There was a noticeable difference in recoil between the 100gr and 92gr rounds. Also, I was shooting with the stock baseplate on the magazines. *Hopefully* switching to the extended baseplates will help keep a better grip on it in the future, but even so that small thin frame batters your hand with recoil. The trigger pull doesn't seem very heavy, but it's looooooooooooong. Between that, and the nearly non-existent sights, my accuracy with the gun was pretty crappy to put it mildly.

It'll serve its purpose as a small gun to drop in a pocket or etc, but I don't think it's going to be one that I take to the range for fun very often. 😀

A mix of target ammo and hollow points at 7 yards:

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Dropbox is apparently being stupid atm.

Edit: Seems to be working ok now.
 
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I have a Beretta Tomcat in .32 ACP that is about as fun to shoot as your Ruger. I find that various pieces of skin on my hand get worked off by shooting this gun actually. It's a great pocket gun but fuck is it unpleasant to shoot.

Not sure about different generation Glocks. I have a model 17 I bought new in 1994 that I've put a few thousand rounds through over the years. It is easy to shoot, very comfortable and I have 4 17 round genuine Glock mags for it, just a great all around gun. I think I've had 2 jams the entire time I've owned it.

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Average self defense distance is about 5-7 yards. And with a gun like the LCP if they're much farther away you're almost better off just throwing the gun at them....

You can hit the kill zone from 15 to 20 yards with those pistols. We normally did just head shots from 7 because its a big old ass target right in your face.
Btw weren't the LCP's recalled some time back?
 
You got screwed. My LCP came with 2 magazines and extended buttplates. I also got the soft case.

Tell your gun dealer he's an ass for ripping you off.

It may feel stiff at first but put a couple hundred rounds through it and you'll be fine. You need that many just to get used to handling it anyways. Also I recommend Militec lube, works great, smoothest operation I ever had.

And if you do plan on carrying it I think you will like the DeSantis pocket holster better than something inside or outside the belt.
 
Rumor has it that if the situation arises that you'll need to shoot someone, 7 yards is a generally accepted distance in which it will happen.

which is why my first 2 mags are always at 7.5. Then at least 50 rounds at 15 yards. A few mags at 20 yards, then the rest of the ammo I brought at 7. That way I know I'm good at distance shots but I'm really comfortable with mid range. Anything closer than 5 yards and I would be screwed. My range won't let you go any closer than 7.
 
You got screwed. My LCP came with 2 magazines and extended buttplates. I also got the soft case.

Tell your gun dealer he's an ass for ripping you off.

Either you got some special edition or you just got a lucky bonus. Only 1 mag is normally included.
 
They were both in the box. Only paid 325 for everything.

You still got some sort of special deal. The stock model has no extension and only 1 mag. This from someone who has purchased one himself and helped 3 others buy them as well.

Kinda wished I had waited to get a LC9 due to the relative weakness of the .380 but whatever, it will likely fulfill it's purpose if I ever really need it. That being said the OP is right, it is NOT fun to plink with.
 
Kinda wished I had waited to get a LC9 due to the relative weakness of the .380 but whatever, it will likely fulfill it's purpose if I ever really need it. That being said the OP is right, it is NOT fun to plink with.

I think the LC9 is big enough to make pocket carry uncomfortable... if I was going larger than the LCP I'd probably look at a G26 or comparable.
 
I think the LC9 is big enough to make pocket carry uncomfortable... if I was going larger than the LCP I'd probably look at a G26 or comparable.

The LC9/PF9 style is still small enough for pocket carry. They're roughly .5" longer/taller and maybe .25" thicker than the LCP/TCP/P3AT.

I don't know if I'd cross shop a G26 and the LC9, G26 is pretty thick comparably.
 
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