YAGT: My Girlfriend might be pregnant...

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chocobaR

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: chocobaR
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: chocobaR
Originally posted by: Tetsuo
Originally posted by: chocobaR
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: chocobaR If the girl is in her periods and you have sex with her, can she get pregnant? If yes, woohoo! :beer::D
Common people - use the basic information you were taught in sex ed.
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Yes, a women can get pregnant at anytime, it doens't matter if she's on the rag or not.
Oh sh!t...
I hope j00 are teh jokeinh
No I'm not... She said there was 0 chances of getting pregnant... I'm scared as hell right now...
Again, this is exactly what we're talking about. If you aren't mature, and responsible when it comes to sex, you shouldn't have it. This kid hasn't even taken a basic sex ed class, I'd be surprized if he even knows what sperm and eggs are.
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Ah come on now... I know I made a mistake...

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Imagine telling your parents that - "Uhhhh, duh, she told me she coudlnt' get pregnent when she was on the rag"
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Seriously, people should have to pass an test to be able to have sex. THe fact that you're oblivious to what is considered sexual common sense is frightening.

Well I trusted her, what can I say more? I made a mistake and it will never happen again. Just hope she doesn't turn out pregnant...
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: Reon
abortion is always good. if you are gonna raise this kid and you are not ready, this kid will come out messed up. do you want him/her to have such a bad childhood? if anything, everyone should cherish his/her childhood because it should be a memorable one. think about it, it's not too late to turn to outside help if you can't talk to your parents.

That is such a moronic statement. Abortion is not simply a solution. It's a choice that can take a huge toll on a woman, physically, mentally, and emotionally. Don't push her to do something that she may regret the rest of her life. The baby can grow up in an adoptive home and have a perfectly happy, normal life. If she gets an abortion, it could mean serious problems for her down the road.

HotChic: Way to go there with the emotionally wrenching, heartstring tugging half-truths before the thread is even updated by the original poster. On the assumption that this girl is indeed pregnant, let me present an opposing point of view:

Abortion could be the appropriate solution. While it can take a toll on her in the manners in which you describe, it is a toll that can be dealt with and even be preferable to the alternatives. We do not know at this point anything about either person's family life, nor what will happen if either set of parents find out she is pregnant. If either is under the local age of consent, it's possible that her parents might want to press charges for statutory rape, which would have far reaching negative consequences on both MacGaven and his g/f. Her parents (or his) might be abusive, and keeping this pregnancy a secret could save them a great deal of physical and emotional pain from that abuse. If this girl is in high school, it may well be preferable for her to get the abortion so that she can complete her education so that she can become a productive member of society prior to settling down with a child. Never mind the social effects of the inevitable ostracization the pregnancy will cause from her peers. If she carries the baby to term and gives it up for adoption, she'll have that emotional pain to deal with for the rest of her life (and so will MacGaven).

I've known more than one woman who has had an abortion, and in all of those cases, it was the appropriate solution. This girl needs to get tested. If she is pregnant, she and MacGaven need to sit down and talk with each other and find out what options they have. They need to make sure they're on the same page as far as what to do, and they should do whatever their hearts tell them is right.
 

rommelrommel

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Dec 7, 2002
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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile HotChic is right. Abortion is no panacea. Just think, you are a father now (if the baby is confirmed to be yours). Can you murder something that is half you? Can she? Believe me, it's not a done deal; it's something you will both take to the grave. Save the child, give it up for adoption. I know several couples in the ATL area, great couples, who have been trying to have their own children and failed. Please consider it.
Jesus, drop the rhetoric. "Murder?" <STRONG>If it was considered murder by a majority of the population it wouldn't be legal.</STRONG> I'm not encouraging abortion as birth control but there are a LOT of cases where it is the best decision, EVERYONE considered.

Talk about a false statement - just because something is legal doesn't mean that the majority of the population supports it. Abortion is murder whichever way you look at it, the fact that you don't value life as much as others is the difference.

I support a womans right to choose - but do I think it's right? No.

So um, when does "it" become a human being? Do you support making victims of rape bear the children resulting from that? Do you support a woman bearing a child that is the result of incest? I think you need to get your head out of the sand of absolutes and live in the real world for a bit. And, how can you both support a woman's right to choose but also label abortion as murder? Talk about doublespeak.

 

Tetsuo

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Oct 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile HotChic is right. Abortion is no panacea. Just think, you are a father now (if the baby is confirmed to be yours). Can you murder something that is half you? Can she? Believe me, it's not a done deal; it's something you will both take to the grave. Save the child, give it up for adoption. I know several couples in the ATL area, great couples, who have been trying to have their own children and failed. Please consider it.
Jesus, drop the rhetoric. "Murder?" If it was considered murder by a majority of the population it wouldn't be legal. I'm not encouraging abortion as birth control but there are a LOT of cases where it is the best decision, EVERYONE considered.
Talk about a false statement - just because something is legal doesn't mean that the majority of the population supports it. Abortion is murder whichever way you look at it, the fact that you don't value life as much as others is the difference. I support a womans right to choose - but do I think it's right? No.
So um, when does "it" become a human being? Do you support making victims of rape bear the children resulting from that? Do you support a woman bearing a child that is the result of incest? I think you need to get your head out of the sand of absolutes and live in the real world for a bit. And, how can you both support a woman's right to choose but also label abortion as murder? Talk about doublespeak.

Amen
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Jesus, drop the rhetoric. "Murder?" <STRONG>If it was considered murder by a majority of the population it wouldn't be legal.</STRONG> I'm not encouraging abortion as birth control but there are a LOT of cases where it is the best decision, EVERYONE considered.

It was a court decision. I don't know (or think) that if they put it up for a national vote, that abortion would stay legal. Do you have any proof that a majority of the population doesn't consider it murder?
 

Ryan

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Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile HotChic is right. Abortion is no panacea. Just think, you are a father now (if the baby is confirmed to be yours). Can you murder something that is half you? Can she? Believe me, it's not a done deal; it's something you will both take to the grave. Save the child, give it up for adoption. I know several couples in the ATL area, great couples, who have been trying to have their own children and failed. Please consider it.
Jesus, drop the rhetoric. "Murder?" If it was considered murder by a majority of the population it wouldn't be legal. I'm not encouraging abortion as birth control but there are a LOT of cases where it is the best decision, EVERYONE considered.
Talk about a false statement - just because something is legal doesn't mean that the majority of the population supports it. Abortion is murder whichever way you look at it, the fact that you don't value life as much as others is the difference. I support a womans right to choose - but do I think it's right? No.
So um, when does "it" become a human being? Do you support making victims of rape bear the children resulting from that? Do you support a woman bearing a child that is the result of incest? I think you need to get your head out of the sand of absolutes and live in the real world for a bit. And, how can you both support a woman's right to choose but also label abortion as murder? Talk about doublespeak.

Yes, I supports a womans right to choose, but it is still killing. I never said that people shouldn't have the right to make that decision for themselves, I may not agree with that decision, but it's not my place to decide. I can support a woman who says she wants an abortion because the baby is born from rape, incest, etc, but that still doens't change the fact that a human life is being extinguished. Yes, some situations make it much easier to deal with, but the fact never changes.
 

Orsorum

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Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile HotChic is right. Abortion is no panacea. Just think, you are a father now (if the baby is confirmed to be yours). Can you murder something that is half you? Can she? Believe me, it's not a done deal; it's something you will both take to the grave. Save the child, give it up for adoption. I know several couples in the ATL area, great couples, who have been trying to have their own children and failed. Please consider it.
Jesus, drop the rhetoric. "Murder?" <STRONG>If it was considered murder by a majority of the population it wouldn't be legal.</STRONG> I'm not encouraging abortion as birth control but there are a LOT of cases where it is the best decision, EVERYONE considered.

Talk about a false statement - just because something is legal doesn't mean that the majority of the population supports it. Abortion is murder whichever way you look at it, the fact that you don't value life as much as others is the difference.

I support a womans right to choose - but do I think it's right? No.

So um, when does "it" become a human being? Do you support making victims of rape bear the children resulting from that? Do you support a woman bearing a child that is the result of incest? I think you need to get your head out of the sand of absolutes and live in the real world for a bit. And, how can you both support a woman's right to choose but also label abortion as murder? Talk about doublespeak.

And exactly what proportion of the women in the population become pregnant from rape or incest?
 

rommelrommel

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Dec 7, 2002
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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile HotChic is right. Abortion is no panacea. Just think, you are a father now (if the baby is confirmed to be yours). Can you murder something that is half you? Can she? Believe me, it's not a done deal; it's something you will both take to the grave. Save the child, give it up for adoption. I know several couples in the ATL area, great couples, who have been trying to have their own children and failed. Please consider it.
Jesus, drop the rhetoric. "Murder?" <STRONG>If it was considered murder by a majority of the population it wouldn't be legal.</STRONG> I'm not encouraging abortion as birth control but there are a LOT of cases where it is the best decision, EVERYONE considered.
Talk about a false statement - just because something is legal doesn't mean that the majority of the population supports it. Abortion is murder whichever way you look at it, the fact that you don't value life as much as others is the difference. I support a womans right to choose - but do I think it's right? No.
So um, when does "it" become a human being? Do you support making victims of rape bear the children resulting from that? Do you support a woman bearing a child that is the result of incest? I think you need to get your head out of the sand of absolutes and live in the real world for a bit. And, how can you both support a woman's right to choose but also label abortion as murder? Talk about doublespeak.

Yes, I supports a womans right to choose, but it is still killing. I never said that people shouldn't have the right to make that decision for themselves, I may not agree with that decision, but it's not my place to decide. I can support a woman who says she wants an abortion because the baby is born from rape, incest, etc, but that still doens't change the fact that a human life is being extinguished. Yes, some situations make it much easier to deal with, but the fact never changes.


So it's not OK for me to murder people who annoy me, but if they are really really a pain in my ass it's ok?
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: rommelrommel
So it's not OK for me to murder people who annoy me, but if they are really really a pain in my ass it's ok?

Maybe, if they climb inside of you and are going to kill you and die themselves. That would be the equivalent of having an emergency abortion.

 

pennylane

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Apr 28, 2002
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Back to the original topic...

If MacGaven made a mistake, don't you think he already knows it and is beating himself up for it? If he came here, it's because he wanted some support. He doesn't need more people putting him down for it.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: fanerman91
Back to the original topic...

If MacGaven made a mistake, don't you think he already knows it and is beating himself up for it? If he came here, it's because he wanted some support. He doesn't need more people putting him down for it.

I agree. This is all very preliminary. He doesn't even know that she is pregnant. There is nothing he can do now. It's hard to just not worry, so he should try and do something to take his mind off of it.

 

y2kc

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If he came here, it's because he wanted some support. He doesn't need more people putting him down for it.

We're talking about ATOT...Support? maybe in 1 out of 10 posts (at best). He should have known better, before he slept with his GF unprotected and before he came here looking for sound advice and understanding.

I think he's yanking your chains.





 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: fanerman91
Back to the original topic...

If MacGaven made a mistake, don't you think he already knows it and is beating himself up for it? If he came here, it's because he wanted some support. He doesn't need more people putting him down for it.

Agreed but some people don't deserve support. If you play with fire you're bound to get burned.

Still best of luck to you MacGaven.
 

PlatinumGold

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Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: rommelrommel
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile HotChic is right. Abortion is no panacea. Just think, you are a father now (if the baby is confirmed to be yours). Can you murder something that is half you? Can she? Believe me, it's not a done deal; it's something you will both take to the grave. Save the child, give it up for adoption. I know several couples in the ATL area, great couples, who have been trying to have their own children and failed. Please consider it.
Jesus, drop the rhetoric. "Murder?" <STRONG>If it was considered murder by a majority of the population it wouldn't be legal.</STRONG> I'm not encouraging abortion as birth control but there are a LOT of cases where it is the best decision, EVERYONE considered.
Talk about a false statement - just because something is legal doesn't mean that the majority of the population supports it. Abortion is murder whichever way you look at it, the fact that you don't value life as much as others is the difference. I support a womans right to choose - but do I think it's right? No.
So um, when does "it" become a human being? Do you support making victims of rape bear the children resulting from that? Do you support a woman bearing a child that is the result of incest? I think you need to get your head out of the sand of absolutes and live in the real world for a bit. And, how can you both support a woman's right to choose but also label abortion as murder? Talk about doublespeak.

Yes, I supports a womans right to choose, but it is still killing. I never said that people shouldn't have the right to make that decision for themselves, I may not agree with that decision, but it's not my place to decide. I can support a woman who says she wants an abortion because the baby is born from rape, incest, etc, but that still doens't change the fact that a human life is being extinguished. Yes, some situations make it much easier to deal with, but the fact never changes.


So it's not OK for me to murder people who annoy me, but if they are really really a pain in my ass it's ok?

There is a distinction between Killing and MURDER. execution is killing but it's legally sanctioned killing hence its NOT murder. Abortion is killing. however abortion is NOT murder, not yet anyway and yes the distinction is a legal and political one not a moral one.

I DO support the womans right to choose in the matter altho it is a difficult choice.

i DO have a problem with people getting abortions SIMPLY out of convenience. :( i think it is a very difficult decision to make and it shouldn't be one made lightly.
 

StageLeft

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Talk about counting your chickens before they hatch! Why bother making a thread about this before being sure? It's like $8 at a pharmacy for a pregnancy test. Go get one and know for sure. Then you can either breath a sigh of relief or get a job and start saving for diapers.
 

imported_Papi

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Originally posted by: The_good_guy
this is the time to talk and figure things out.
Let her know that if she wants to keep the baby she is screwing up her life and yours too. I assume she is under 18, which could cause you some "legal" trouble depending on the state you live in. If she keeps the baby is she raising it herself or giving it up for adoption?
If she doesnt want to keep teh baby then you should make an appt with planned parenthood and figure things out. If sheh is in the first tri semester you can abort it relatively safely. It costs a bit of money but in the long run aborting is a lot cheaper to do than paying for 18 yrs of childsupport.
Remember sex is great when you are getting, a pain when something goes wrong.


The sex god has spoken....

/me rolls eyes
 

Viper GTS

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Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: The_good_guy
this is the time to talk and figure things out.
Let her know that if she wants to keep the baby she is screwing up her life and yours too. I assume she is under 18, which could cause you some "legal" trouble depending on the state you live in. If she keeps the baby is she raising it herself or giving it up for adoption?
If she doesnt want to keep teh baby then you should make an appt with planned parenthood and figure things out. If sheh is in the first tri semester you can abort it relatively safely. It costs a bit of money but in the long run aborting is a lot cheaper to do than paying for 18 yrs of childsupport.
Remember sex is great when you are getting, a pain when something goes wrong.

Woohoo, I can't believe nobody jumped on this yet.

Let her know that if she wants to keep the baby she is screwing up her life and yours too.

Yet again you show yourself. The responsibility is shared, there is no "she" it was a joint effort.

Besides, you would hardly be the one to give advice on sex considering some of your past threads here.

Viper GTS
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: anxi80
got a clothes hanger?

that is nasty and waay too inhumane. Shouldn't there be a cleaner, less painful, easier way?

Adoption. Or condoms. But he must have waived the condoms.
 

imported_Papi

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I think people should take responsibility for their screw ups. Or at least try. There are to many children in group homes, and adoption agencies in the world.

Just because you have a child at 18 doesn't mean your life is over. It means starting now you are going to act and think like an adult.

If he was man enough to stick his dick in her, he's man enough to raise a child.

Prove your a man, take care of your child!

I despise these threads. It isn't until these types of threads pop up I realize just how immature most of you guys really are.

For both your sakes I hope it's just a missed period.