YAGT: More of a rant

zippy

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Like most men, I have no fvcking clue what I'm doing. I'm like a deer in headlights when I comes to understanding women. I can talk to them without any problem and asking them out is no big deal. Now, I've had some crappy experiences with girls in the past but I, unlike most teens it seems, actually try to learn from past mistakes and build on what knowledge I have.

That said, I asked a girl to my Senior Ball a few weeks ago (she said yes...). She's a junior and I didn't know her very well at the time. She's a sweet girl, laughs a lot, very attractive, all that good stuff. But I'm getting the feeling that she is just going to Ball and that's the first and last I'll see of her. And I don't think it's that she doesn't like me or anything - I know that she at least likes me as a friend. I don't know what it is. I've seen her outside of school a few times but only in groups which makes getting to know her difficult.

She can go to the dinner, dance, and school sponsored "After the formal informal" (bowling) but her parents are probably not going to let her come to my friends house afterwards. I'm in a group of 10 people - 10 really good people that are all very outgoing and good kids. Bare in mind, his parents will be home too! After her junior prom she went to this big party of like 50 people at some girl's house where like everyone was drunk and all sorts of sh!t was going on - but she was able to go to that!

Although, I can understand why her parents are hesitant - they don't know me or any of my friends. I only wish I could meet her parents though. But apparently I can't. A bunch of our friends went to dinner last night and she couldn't go. She had to study/see her parents or some sh!t. If she could have gone, I would have picked her up, met her mom or something. And she can't do anything today either. I asked her yesterday if she could do something this afternoon and she can't - she has some volunteer thing. So today I asked if she is busy tonight. She said something like, "I'm leaving to volunteer in 10 minutes and then I don't know when I'll be home..." Uh, okay.

So what the fvck?! I'm sure she won't be able to do anything this week if she was studying on a damn Friday night for her finals which are coming up in a few weeks. Basically, I'm going to be stuck as the only one in my group that is dateless after bowling. I'm going to be bored, lonely, and pissed off. I'm really regretting asking her now - what a waste. I'd ask her if she's busy tomorrow, but how desperate would that seem - I've asked her out the last two days already. I saw her last night at a CoffeeHouse where some bands were playing - she came at like 8 with her little group of girls.

Oh yeah, that's another thing that frustrating as hell. She has a group of 3 other girls that are fvcking joined at the hip. It's impossible to steal one of them for a night. Or maybe just her. I used to date one of the other 3 girls last year and we went out a lot.

This is futile. Goddamn. I just needed to rant. If anyone can think of a way I can meet her mom (she doesn't like her dad - her parents are divorced) let me know, but it seems pretty useless at this point. I know that if I meet her mom and talk to her for a little bit she'll let her go to the after party - I really am a good kid and it's not like this is a big party or anything. We'll probably just watch a movie and fall asleep in his basement.

The worst part is, I really would like to get to know this girl better. That makes it all the more frustrating.
 

EvilYoda

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wow. long post.

How much time before the dance? I would personally just go meet the mom, regardless of whether or not the daughter was home, if you're so into the girl...give it some time. Have you actually just tried asking her out yet?

too much text to comprehend, otherwise I'd probably have more to say.
 

zippy

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Yeah, sorry about the long post. I had a lot to get out.

Senior Ball is 1 week from today.

Wouldn't that be kinda sketchy just going over to her house without the girl being home? Ya know what, now that I think about it, I don't even know where the hell she lives. I've never had to drive her anywhere - whenever she goes out one of her girls drives her.

And yeah, I asked her out for this afternoon and for tonight. Plus, I asked if she was coming to dinner with us last night - if she was I would have been able to pick her up.

Oh, and sorry, no pics. I don't even know where she lives let alone have a picture of her.
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: brigden
Sounds like she's blowing you off.
That's how it feels. But she really did have to do that stuff last night - I'm good friends with one of her 'girls' and she had told me the same thing. Plus, why wouldn't she come to dinner with a group of friends?

This afternoon, fine, she had to volunteer - I have a lot of friends doing that volunteering right now. But she can't go out tonight? What the hell?

I'm thinking that her coming to the after party will be a last second thing when I pick her up before Ball and meet her mom. But I'd rather not leave it to the last second like that.

Oh, and I should note. One of my friends asked the girl if she was interested in me and she said, "I'm not sure. Is he?" And she said I wasn't sure. I don't know why my friend asked the girl that, but she did, so oh well. Anyway, that doesn't seem tremendously positive, but apparently it is somewhat. According to the girl that asked that is the most positive response she has ever gotten from her about a guy. This girl has never had a boyfriend or anything. Like me, she has had opportunities to get into a relationship but never taken them (well, I did that one time last year - what a mistake that was...).
 

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Originally posted by: brigden
Sounds like she's blowing you off.
Girls are retarded at that age, they won't say no even if they have no interest in going with you. Sorry to hear that man.
 
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It seems to me she thinks you asked her as a friend and nothing else. Just make your intentions clear and see if she can reciprocate. If not, oh well.
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: Sid59
sorry .. are there cliff notes?
This girl I'm going to Senior Ball with is crazy confusing. She can never seem to find time to go out with me. On the one hand it seems like she's blowing me off, but on the other hand she has had other things going on that she's known about and some friends have assured me that she really is busy with that stuff.

Basically she can't come to the after party (she'd have to go home after the 'After the Formal Informal,' which is bowling, at 3AM) because her parents don't know me or the kid whose house we are going to. So I need to figure out some way to meet her mom within the next week before Ball. I'm pretty confident that if her mom meets me she'd let her go.

That short enough? :)
 

Underground727

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Originally posted by: zippy
Like most men, I have no fvcking clue what I'm doing. I'm like a deer in headlights when I comes to understanding women. I can talk to them without any problem and asking them out is no big deal. Now, I've had some crappy experiences with girls in the past but I, unlike most teens it seems, actually try to learn from past mistakes and build on what knowledge I have.

That said, I asked a girl to my Senior Ball a few weeks ago (she said yes...). She's a junior and I didn't know her very well at the time. She's a sweet girl, laughs a lot, very attractive, all that good stuff. But I'm getting the feeling that she is just going to Ball and that's the first and last I'll see of her. And I don't think it's that she doesn't like me or anything - I know that she at least likes me as a friend. I don't know what it is. I've seen her outside of school a few times but only in groups which makes getting to know her difficult.

She can go to the dinner, dance, and school sponsored "After the formal informal" (bowling) but her parents are probably not going to let her come to my friends house afterwards. I'm in a group of 10 people - 10 really good people that are all very outgoing and good kids. Bare in mind, his parents will be home too! After her junior prom she went to this big party of like 50 people at some girl's house where like everyone was drunk and all sorts of sh!t was going on - but she was able to go to that!

Although, I can understand why her parents are hesitant - they don't know me or any of my friends. I only wish I could meet her parents though. But apparently I can't. A bunch of our friends went to dinner last night and she couldn't go. She had to study/see her parents or some sh!t. If she could have gone, I would have picked her up, met her mom or something. And she can't do anything today either. I asked her yesterday if she could do something this afternoon and she can't - she has some volunteer thing. So today I asked if she is busy tonight. She said something like, "I'm leaving to volunteer in 10 minutes and then I don't know when I'll be home..." Uh, okay.

So what the fvck?! I'm sure she won't be able to do anything this week if she was studying on a damn Friday night for her finals which are coming up in a few weeks. Basically, I'm going to be stuck as the only one in my group that is dateless after bowling. I'm going to be bored, lonely, and pissed off. I'm really regretting asking her now - what a waste. I'd ask her if she's busy tomorrow, but how desperate would that seem - I've asked her out the last two days already. I saw her last night at a CoffeeHouse where some bands were playing - she came at like 8 with her little group of girls.

Oh yeah, that's another thing that frustrating as hell. She has a group of 3 other girls that are fvcking joined at the hip. It's impossible to steal one of them for a night. Or maybe just her. I used to date one of the other 3 girls last year and we went out a lot.

This is futile. Goddamn. I just needed to rant. If anyone can think of a way I can meet her mom (she doesn't like her dad - her parents are divorced) let me know, but it seems pretty useless at this point. I know that if I meet her mom and talk to her for a little bit she'll let her go to the after party - I really am a good kid and it's not like this is a big party or anything. We'll probably just watch a movie and fall asleep in his basement.

The worst part is, I really would like to get to know this girl better. That makes it all the more frustrating.

Dude, it's called self respect. She has clearly blown you off multiple times now. I guarantee you she does not stay at home and study on weekends. And she know's damn well when she'll be done volunteering.

She is just going to the dance with you because she is too nice to say no, and she thinks she'll be hot sh*t because she's a junior at senior prom.

Why do you want her to come back to your friends house so bad? It dosn't sound like you're going to hit it in the first place.

On another note, why is you after-senior-prom party parent supervised? Are you some kind of dork?
 

Underground727

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Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: Sid59
sorry .. are there cliff notes?
This girl I'm going to Senior Ball with is crazy confusing. She can never seem to find time to go out with me. On the one hand it seems like she's blowing me off, but on the other hand she has had other things going on that she's known about and some friends have assured me that she really is busy with that stuff.

Basically she can't come to the after party (she'd have to go home after the 'After the Formal Informal,' which is bowling, at 3AM) because her parents don't know me or the kid whose house we are going to. So I need to figure out some way to meet her mom within the next week before Ball. I'm pretty confident that if her mom meets me she'd let her go.

That short enough? :)

Like her friends won't cover for her...
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: Underground727

Dude, it's called self respect. She has clearly blown you off multiple times now. I guarantee you she does not stay at home and study on weekends. And she know's damn well when she'll be done volunteering.

She is just going to the dance with you because she is too nice to say no, and she thinks she'll be hot sh*t because she's a junior at senior prom.

Why do you want her to come back to your friends house so bad? It dosn't sound like you're going to hit it in the first place.

On another note, why is you after-senior-prom party parent supervised? Are you some kind of dork?
Yeah, I don't know what the hell is up. I think she just already made plans for after volunteering - I think she knows when she'll be done, she just doesn't know when she'll be home.

After Ball there is the After-the-Formal-Informal - where a ton of the seniors go bowling, it's a lot of fun from what I've heard. They also give out some cool prizes - TVs, XBoxes, etc., even a trip for 2 to Vermont for a weekend.
Originally posted by: Underground727

Like her friends won't cover for her...
I didn't invite her to dinner. Her friends did and told me she wasn't coming. Then I asked her if she was coming with us anyway even though I knew she probably wasn't.

I dunno guys, I'm frustrated and confused and at this point I wish I had asked someone else to Ball and never gotten into this mess.
 

Underground727

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Just go ahead and ask another girl to the prom. Teach her a lesson.

I didn't mean the bowling event, I meant the real party, the one after that.

There should be no parents around to properly celerbrate graduating.
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: Underground727
Just go ahead and ask another girl to the prom. Teach her a lesson.

I didn't mean the bowling event, I meant the real party, the one after that.

There should be no parents around to properly celerbrate graduating.
Hah, it's tempting...it really is.

Yeah, his parents will be asleep - no worries. It'll still be a good time I'm sure. Though, it would be better if my freaking date didn't have to go home. This is so ridiculous.
 

Underground727

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Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: Underground727
Just go ahead and ask another girl to the prom. Teach her a lesson.

I didn't mean the bowling event, I meant the real party, the one after that.

There should be no parents around to properly celerbrate graduating.
Hah, it's tempting...it really is.

Yeah, his parents will be asleep - no worries. It'll still be a good time I'm sure. Though, it would be better if my freaking date didn't have to go home. This is so ridiculous.

Whatever you do, just have fun.

God luck.
 

Lithium381

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you need to have a 1on1 with her.....a talk that is(;)). . . . .find out whats up, if she doens't want to go with you, find someone else, don't waste your time and your only chance at seniorball with some weird-chick as cool as she may be, seems like she's giving you the runaround
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: Lithium381
you need to have a 1on1 with her.....a talk that is(;)). . . . .find out whats up, if she doens't want to go with you, find someone else, don't waste your time and your only chance at seniorball with some weird-chick as cool as she may be, seems like she's giving you the runaround
Yeah, that's the plan at the moment. I mean, I may be overreacting - she has been busy this weekend. She had to see her dad last night I guess and then I saw her at the coffeehouse. Today she did have volunteering. But I don't understand why she can't do anything tonight.

I'll talk to her. It's just really annoying.
 

zippy

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So I have only been ranting to some of my guy friends about this. And of course, they don't have any clue what to do (I mean, I didn't...) so I busted out the platonic girl friend - she rocks. Anyway, I talked to her about this and she was like, "Have you given her the ticket to Ball yet?" (It's like a nice card and whatever.) And I haven't! She's like, "You should just bring that over there - use that for an excuse." At least this way I'll have a decent excuse - she also recommended bringing over a plant or something because "mom's eat that stuff up." Next time I talk to her I'll see what the deal is. I also just realized that I could give her a ride home from school or something at some point this week.

The only thing left is actually talking to my date. ;) She really is a sweet girl, hopefully that holds true.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Just call up her mom and start out talking by asking if she has mentioned you because whenever you talk to her, she's busy. Tell her mom that if she doesn't like you, then to just say it instead of letting you hang there without an answer. You gotta do something otherwise if she ends up volunteering that night you're going to regret you didn't listen to AgaBooga... ;)

But always remember, When In Doubt, Whip It Out! (WIDWIO)
 

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y did u ask her to begin with, i mean its not like a date, u go to the movies, it doesn;t work out, ohh well, your prom or ball, is big stuff man. I asked a good friend of mine, cuz i didn;t want any pressure, and it turned out to be a great night, so dump the ho go with someone u know u wil have fun, don;t experiment on your ball or prom night

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zippy

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Just call up her mom and start out talking by asking if she has mentioned you because whenever you talk to her, she's busy. Tell her mom that if she doesn't like you, then to just say it instead of letting you hang there without an answer. You gotta do something otherwise if she ends up volunteering that night you're going to regret you didn't listen to AgaBooga... ;)

But always remember, When In Doubt, Whip It Out! (WIDWIO)
It's not that she's always busy. Last weekend she went over to a friend's house and it was me, her, one of her girls, at her girl's boyfriend's house. So I saw her then - the plan was for her friend to go to her bf's house earlier, then for her to have her friend call me so I could pick her up - meet her mom and whatnot. But her friend failed me and ended up driving. And I did see her this weekend - she said she couldn't come to dinner with us but she would be at the coffeehouse. It turns out that tonight her mom made her stay in and study according to one of her friends - she has SATs next weekend and she's worried about her Spanish final coming up or something. I just wish she had told me that - something like, "My mom isn't letting me go out tonight - I have to study. I'm really sorry." That probably would have been more understandable and less frustrating than, "I'm volunteering in 10 minutes and then I don't know when I'll be home..."
Originally posted by: PunDogg
y did u ask her to begin with, i mean its not like a date, u go to the movies, it doesn;t work out, ohh well, your prom or ball, is big stuff man. I asked a good friend of mine, cuz i didn;t want any pressure, and it turned out to be a great night, so dump the ho go with someone u know u wil have fun, don;t experiment on your ball or prom night

Dogg
I dunno, seemed like a safe bet at the time. Most of my female friends either already had dates or boyfriends. There was another girl that I'm better friends with that I was also considering...I'm regretting not asking her at the moment. Oh well. I mean really, after bowling we'll probably just go back to the kid's house and watch a movie and fall asleep anyway.

Oh well, tonight worked out fine I guess. I went to some girl's house with a bunch of people - watched like 8 episodes of the Family Guy. I didn't really know/like the people there, but it was on a big, sweet HDTV and it's a funny show. Then my friend got off work, gave me a call, picked me up and we went to a club and hung out, listened to some music, and, of course, danced. It was nice to get my mind off of this ridiculous sh!t for awhile. I was really annoyed when I woke up pissed off this morning and woke up from my nap this afternoon pissed off - it's just not a good feeling. I didn't even have that 2 seconds when you first wake up where the world doesn't exist and it's just really calm.

Anyway, I'll give her a call tomorrow night. Hopefully when she isn't studying...
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