YAGT: I ****** up, didn't I?

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: gigapet
it means your thinking to much.

play it cool and go with the flow. Don't worry about the outcome.

Yeah, you've gotta realize that she's no different from 99% of the other girls out there. Once you do that you'll stop caring and she'll start.

Simply put, don't pour out your emotions and don't waste your energy. Keep in mind that her sh!t doesn't smell any better than yours, so don't bend over backwards for her and don't ever put her on a pedestal. Right now, the last thing you need to tell yourself is that you're screwed.

You're never screwed, unless you're screwing yourself.

So basically, act like I don't give two shits about her?

Yeah, but that shouldn't be too hard. Just act like the santanist that you are.

 

[bigrash]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: MelikK
WOOWW hold one ... I thought you were gay as confirmed in this post My parents think I'm gay

No, you asshole. My parents think I'm gay. I know better.

dude, you're gay. stick to your own kind.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: gigapet
it means your thinking to much.

play it cool and go with the flow. Don't worry about the outcome.

Yeah, you've gotta realize that she's no different from 99% of the other girls out there. Once you do that you'll stop caring and she'll start.

Simply put, don't pour out your emotions and don't waste your energy. Keep in mind that her sh!t doesn't smell any better than yours, so don't bend over backwards for her and don't ever put her on a pedestal. Right now, the last thing you need to tell yourself is that you're screwed.

You're never screwed, unless you're screwing yourself.

So basically, act like I don't give two shits about her?

Originally posted by: K1052
Your parents must have told her that you were gay.

I hate you. I hate you a lot.

No, it isn't an act. The mistake that most young guys make is they put girls on a pedestal and let them do whatever they want. Then the girl gets bored (and in short order) Also, for the record, I think my evil twin (DaShen) was saying that you shouldn't put too much emphasis on a relationship that won't last, which is the same thing that I'm saying (maybe he's not so evil after all??)

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Okay, first things first. There's this girl I like, in school. I'm just a highschool student, 15 years old.

That is all you needed to say.

You are thinking too much about a relationship that is more than likely not serious enough to last for marriage (even though you probably feel that way right now). Don't think so much about it, don't add drama. Chill out and relax because if you put too much emphasis on young love, you will feel a lot of heart ache if it doesn't work out long term.

If you Chill out and relax, and the girl is mature enough to understand this, chances are you are mature enough to make it last. Too much drama and emotion doesn't equate to love. Maturity and loyalty are part of the love package. Best of luck to you.

But considering the overdramtizing by the girl and yourself, I would probably just accept it as young love.

Bahahaha, marry her? Wait a minute, skipper. I'm 15, not 25.

Exactly my point. If you aren't at the age/maturity to go for relationships for long term, then don't worry about it so much. Don't add so much drama.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: gigapet
it means your thinking to much.

play it cool and go with the flow. Don't worry about the outcome.

Yeah, you've gotta realize that she's no different from 99% of the other girls out there. Once you do that you'll stop caring and she'll start.

Simply put, don't pour out your emotions and don't waste your energy. Keep in mind that her sh!t doesn't smell any better than yours, so don't bend over backwards for her and don't ever put her on a pedestal. Right now, the last thing you need to tell yourself is that you're screwed.

You're never screwed, unless you're screwing yourself.

So basically, act like I don't give two shits about her?

Yeah, but that shouldn't be too hard. Just act like the santanist that you are.

LOL!

Originally posted by: bigrash

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: MelikK
WOOWW hold one ... I thought you were gay as confirmed in this post My parents think I'm gay

No, you asshole. My parents think I'm gay. I know better.

dude, you're gay. stick to your own kind.

I hope you die. I hope you die right now.

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: gigapet
it means your thinking to much.

play it cool and go with the flow. Don't worry about the outcome.

Yeah, you've gotta realize that she's no different from 99% of the other girls out there. Once you do that you'll stop caring and she'll start.

Simply put, don't pour out your emotions and don't waste your energy. Keep in mind that her sh!t doesn't smell any better than yours, so don't bend over backwards for her and don't ever put her on a pedestal. Right now, the last thing you need to tell yourself is that you're screwed.

You're never screwed, unless you're screwing yourself.

So basically, act like I don't give two shits about her?

Originally posted by: K1052
Your parents must have told her that you were gay.

I hate you. I hate you a lot.

No, it isn't an act. The mistake that most young guys make is they put girls on a pedestal and let them do whatever they want. Then the girl gets bored (and in short order) Also, for the record, I think my evil twin (DaShen) was saying that you shouldn't put too much emphasis on a relationship that won't last, which is the same thing that I'm saying (maybe he's not so evil after all??)

I'm not evil. She's one of the few that know why I pursued this religion, and she accepted it. She's the first one to know AND accept. That meant a lot to me.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: DaiShan
No, it isn't an act. The mistake that most young guys make is they put girls on a pedestal and let them do whatever they want. Then the girl gets bored (and in short order) Also, for the record, I think my evil twin (DaShen) was saying that you shouldn't put too much emphasis on a relationship that won't last, which is the same thing that I'm saying (maybe he's not so evil after all??)

Your dang right I am evil....

:evil: Muwahahahahahahaahah <evil laugh ensues>

But, yeah, I totally agree. You put any human relationship up on a pedastal, and eventually you will be disappointed or heart broken.

 

[Vegitto]

OP edited. Also, what's a pedestal? That little podium thingie beauty queens get to stand on?

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Okay, first things first. There's this girl I like, in school. I'm just a highschool student, 15 years old. I'm having some family problems, some financial troubles and some (one, actually) backstabbing friends.

Well, lately, things were going great. I liked this girl, she kinda liked me, it went okay between us. She likes to write stuff, and actually has a kind of weblog, but only for the people close to her, basically 5 or 6 people. Yesterday, she wrote this:

Being in love. According to many, it's the best feeling in the world. Butterflies in the stomach, only thinking about that special person, collecting all pictures including him you can find, and getting a lot of energy. Especially the last one was great, after months of exhaustion. But now, the being in love is almost gone, my exhaustion is back and I'm back where I started. Just great. I met him and it was love at first sight. I was on a big, comfy, pink cloud and nothing could get me off. Only thinking about him made me feel like I could fly. For weeks I felt like the happiest person on earth. I woke up with him, went to school with him, thought about him whilst eating, talked to him on MSN and dreamt about him. People say that love is blind, and I guess it's true. My friends were telling me that he really wasn't all that great as I thought, but I was in love. It was very hard for them to bump me off of my cloud, and it took me a few weeks to get it. Now, I've got it, but it doesn't make me feel any better. On one side, I know it's better like this, but on the other side, I wish I was in love like this again. It made me happy and I felt great for the first time in months. What do I do now? The feeling hasn't vanished completely, somewhere, something's left, I just put it away. Ah, lovetroubles. Spring is near, I guess. I love seeing other people fall in love, that's what makes spring nice for me.

(Translated.)

So, what's this mean? Does it mean I missed my chance, or does it mean that I'll have a chance, soon?

EDIT:
Okay, let me tell you why I like this girl:
-We have the same taste in music
-I like to play music (I try ), she likes to listen
-We both like to read and write
-She's the first one to know why I pursued my religion (see sig) AND accept my reasons at the same time
-She's really hot
-She's smart, we're really competitive
-She likes computer games

I know, I know, her ****** smells just as bad as mine, she's not a queen. But I still like her a lot. Especially the 4th reasons means a lot to me.

If you like her, go for it. If she's actually in love with another guy you're going to get shot down either way (either by asking her to go out with you, or by saying nothing and her going to this other guy). But if it's actually you she's talking about, the ONLY way you're going to succeed is by being up front, and telling her you like her too.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
OP edited. Also, what's a pedestal? That little podium thingie beauty queens get to stand on?

its an analogy of sorts. A pedestal is something higher up off the ground than you.

It means to give the girl more value than yourself. To make this as simple as possible....being good with women is all about value. Whether it be percieved or real value. If a girl thinks that she has higher value than the boy....>She will NOT date him.....she will use and manipulate him. If she percieves a male as having higher value she will be attracted to him in most cases. When you go out of your way to do things for a girl you are basically communicating that she is higher value than yourself thus removing yourself from the game. Does this make sense?

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: Accipiter22

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Okay, first things first. There's this girl I like, in school. I'm just a highschool student, 15 years old. I'm having some family problems, some financial troubles and some (one, actually) backstabbing friends.

Well, lately, things were going great. I liked this girl, she kinda liked me, it went okay between us. She likes to write stuff, and actually has a kind of weblog, but only for the people close to her, basically 5 or 6 people. Yesterday, she wrote this:

Being in love. According to many, it's the best feeling in the world. Butterflies in the stomach, only thinking about that special person, collecting all pictures including him you can find, and getting a lot of energy. Especially the last one was great, after months of exhaustion. But now, the being in love is almost gone, my exhaustion is back and I'm back where I started. Just great. I met him and it was love at first sight. I was on a big, comfy, pink cloud and nothing could get me off. Only thinking about him made me feel like I could fly. For weeks I felt like the happiest person on earth. I woke up with him, went to school with him, thought about him whilst eating, talked to him on MSN and dreamt about him. People say that love is blind, and I guess it's true. My friends were telling me that he really wasn't all that great as I thought, but I was in love. It was very hard for them to bump me off of my cloud, and it took me a few weeks to get it. Now, I've got it, but it doesn't make me feel any better. On one side, I know it's better like this, but on the other side, I wish I was in love like this again. It made me happy and I felt great for the first time in months. What do I do now? The feeling hasn't vanished completely, somewhere, something's left, I just put it away. Ah, lovetroubles. Spring is near, I guess. I love seeing other people fall in love, that's what makes spring nice for me.

(Translated.)

So, what's this mean? Does it mean I missed my chance, or does it mean that I'll have a chance, soon?

EDIT:
Okay, let me tell you why I like this girl:
-We have the same taste in music
-I like to play music (I try ), she likes to listen
-We both like to read and write
-She's the first one to know why I pursued my religion (see sig) AND accept my reasons at the same time
-She's really hot
-She's smart, we're really competitive
-She likes computer games

I know, I know, her ****** smells just as bad as mine, she's not a queen. But I still like her a lot. Especially the 4th reasons means a lot to me.

If you like her, go for it. If she's actually in love with another guy you're going to get shot down either way (either by asking her to go out with you, or by saying nothing and her going to this other guy). But if it's actually you she's talking about, the ONLY way you're going to succeed is by being up front, and telling her you like her too.

Yeah, I kinda have really bad experiences with telling girls I like them up front. I'd rather not do that again..

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Vegitto
OP edited. Also, what's a pedestal? That little podium thingie beauty queens get to stand on?

its an analogy of sorts. A pedestal is something higher up off the ground than you.

It means to give the girl more value than yourself. To make this as simple as possible....being good with women is all about value. Whether it be percieved or real value. If a girl thinks that she has higher value than the boy....>She will NOT date him.....she will use and manipulate him. If she percieves a male as having higher value she will be attracted to him in most cases. When you go out of your way to do things for a girl you are basically communicating that she is higher value than yourself thus removing yourself from the game. Does this make sense?

Kind of.. I've been treating her like an equal.. What's that mean?

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Vegitto
OP edited. Also, what's a pedestal? That little podium thingie beauty queens get to stand on?

its an analogy of sorts. A pedestal is something higher up off the ground than you.

It means to give the girl more value than yourself. To make this as simple as possible....being good with women is all about value. Whether it be percieved or real value. If a girl thinks that she has higher value than the boy....>She will NOT date him.....she will use and manipulate him. If she percieves a male as having higher value she will be attracted to him in most cases. When you go out of your way to do things for a girl you are basically communicating that she is higher value than yourself thus removing yourself from the game. Does this make sense?

Kind of.. I've been treating her like an equal.. What's that mean?

Ask yourself this: do you find yourself doing things towards/for her that you wouldn't or don't typically do for your guy friends?

If the answer is yes you are SUPPLICATING aka putting her on a pedestal aka presuming she has higher value than you.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Yeah, but that shouldn't be too hard. Just act like the santanist that you are.

You will find that most kids who pursue Satanism (the LaVey-California group) are just misguided and lost kids who will, when they mature, realize how stupid it was to follow such a flawed teaching. They mostly follow such teachings because it is different from the norm, and taboo, so therefore alluring. It draws attention to the kid who "claims" that they are practicing Satanist, and therefore gives them the attention that they were craving in the first place. They find a group of morose, low self esteem kids that will bolster the idea, but when they look back at it when they grow up, they will laugh or think how stupid they were to even believe that. Some never grow out of that morose, low self worth persona, and become more Goth because of that.

Chances are Vegitto fits this group of individuals. He may even come from a religious home where it draws his parents attention. It would also explain the parents sudden concern for their kid. Maybe they think their kid is gay because he hangs out with effeminant Goth kids. Who knows. But chances are he will grow out of it. He maybe even will realize that his parent's religion isn't so bad, id he recognizes that no person is perfect (but I digress from the topic).

 

[nakedfrog]

She's a teenage girl, that's what it means.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Vegitto
OP edited. Also, what's a pedestal? That little podium thingie beauty queens get to stand on?

its an analogy of sorts. A pedestal is something higher up off the ground than you.

It means to give the girl more value than yourself. To make this as simple as possible....being good with women is all about value. Whether it be percieved or real value. If a girl thinks that she has higher value than the boy....>She will NOT date him.....she will use and manipulate him. If she percieves a male as having higher value she will be attracted to him in most cases. When you go out of your way to do things for a girl you are basically communicating that she is higher value than yourself thus removing yourself from the game. Does this make sense?

Kind of.. I've been treating her like an equal.. What's that mean?

Ask yourself this: do you find yourself doing things towards/for her that you wouldn't or don't typically do for your guy friends?

If the answer is yes you are SUPPLICATING aka putting her on a pedestal aka presuming she has higher value than you.

No, I just do things for her that I'd do for anyone. However, as a friend, I'm really loyal (unlike some people I know >.<).

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Yeah, but that shouldn't be too hard. Just act like the santanist that you are.

You will find that most kids who pursue Satanism (the LaVey-California group) are just misguided and lost kids who will, when they mature, realize how stupid it was to follow such a flawed teaching. They mostly follow such teachings because it is different from the norm, and taboo, so therefore alluring. It draws attention to the kid who "claims" that they are practicing Satanist, and therefore gives them the attention that they were craving in the first place. They find a group of morose, low self esteem kids that will bolster the idea, but when they look back at it when they grow up, they will laugh or think how stupid they were to even believe that. Some never grow out of that morose, low self worth persona, and become more Goth because of that.

Chances are Vegitto fits this group of individuals. He may even come from a religious home where it draws his parents attention. It would also explain the parents sudden concern for their kid. Maybe they think their kid is gay because he hangs out with effeminant Goth kids. Who knows. But chances are he will grow out of it. He maybe even will realize that his parent's religion isn't so bad, id he recognizes that no person is perfect (but I digress from the topic).

You're right and wrong at the same time. I was lost and misguided. These people (Satanists) helped me out of it, and gave my life meaning again. Also, other things that you wouldn't understand. I didn't do it for attention, I don't hang out with goths or emo's, and both of my parents are atheist.

Why are we discussing my religion again, when it is, yet again, highly irrelivant?

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Vegitto
OP edited. Also, what's a pedestal? That little podium thingie beauty queens get to stand on?

its an analogy of sorts. A pedestal is something higher up off the ground than you.

It means to give the girl more value than yourself. To make this as simple as possible....being good with women is all about value. Whether it be percieved or real value. If a girl thinks that she has higher value than the boy....>She will NOT date him.....she will use and manipulate him. If she percieves a male as having higher value she will be attracted to him in most cases. When you go out of your way to do things for a girl you are basically communicating that she is higher value than yourself thus removing yourself from the game. Does this make sense?

Being able to value yourself and see your own self worth allows you to see the other person in a relationship as they truly are instead of seeing them as the "perfect" person for you. In other words seeing yourself as a person with worth, takes away any bias you have on the girl you like, and gives you a better ability to see their flaws as well as their "perfections"

 

[nakedfrog]

So why are you a satanist? Because you're selfish?

 

[KarenMarie]

If you are not the one she is talking about, then how many boys has she been in love with already?

you're (both) too young to be worried about love/infatuation.

just relax, enjoy yourself and have some fun. it is almost summer, you needent be spending your time trying to decipher the deeper meaning of stuff posted on a blog.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Vegitto
OP edited. Also, what's a pedestal? That little podium thingie beauty queens get to stand on?

its an analogy of sorts. A pedestal is something higher up off the ground than you.

It means to give the girl more value than yourself. To make this as simple as possible....being good with women is all about value. Whether it be percieved or real value. If a girl thinks that she has higher value than the boy....>She will NOT date him.....she will use and manipulate him. If she percieves a male as having higher value she will be attracted to him in most cases. When you go out of your way to do things for a girl you are basically communicating that she is higher value than yourself thus removing yourself from the game. Does this make sense?

Being able to value yourself and see your own self worth allows you to see the other person in a relationship as they truly are instead of seeing them as the "perfect" person for you. In other words seeing yourself as a person with worth, takes away any bias you have on the girl you like, and gives you a better ability to see their flaws as well as their "perfections"

that is true but i think thats a little over his head at this point lol.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: Vegitto
OP edited. Also, what's a pedestal? That little podium thingie beauty queens get to stand on?

its an analogy of sorts. A pedestal is something higher up off the ground than you.

It means to give the girl more value than yourself. To make this as simple as possible....being good with women is all about value. Whether it be percieved or real value. If a girl thinks that she has higher value than the boy....>She will NOT date him.....she will use and manipulate him. If she percieves a male as having higher value she will be attracted to him in most cases. When you go out of your way to do things for a girl you are basically communicating that she is higher value than yourself thus removing yourself from the game. Does this make sense?

Being able to value yourself and see your own self worth allows you to see the other person in a relationship as they truly are instead of seeing them as the "perfect" person for you. In other words seeing yourself as a person with worth, takes away any bias you have on the girl you like, and gives you a better ability to see their flaws as well as their "perfections"

She's not perfect, and I know it. However, if this is the girl that'll be my gf, she'll be plenty. I could ask for more, but then I'd just be arrogant/spoiled.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
So why are you a satanist? Because you're selfish?

None of your bussiness.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
So why are you a satanist? Because you're selfish?

None of your bussiness.

Heheheh... I remember being 15. There's not much difference between being a satanist and an atheist except that the satanists have a code that basically says they're more important than everyone else.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
You're right and wrong at the same time. I was lost and misguided. These people (Satanists) helped me out of it, and gave my life meaning again. Also, other things that you wouldn't understand. I didn't do it for attention, I don't hang out with goths or emo's, and both of my parents are atheist.

Why are we discussing my religion again, when it is, yet again, highly irrelivant?

It is highly irrelavant to the topic at hand that is why I said I digress.

Then I guess you don't fit that category. I would say LaVey's philosophies on how to deal with people is misguided though, and can lead to many people killing each other.

Instead of an eye for an eye, it is a life for an eye.
If someone smacks you, bash there face in... (I don't think that is necessarily a good meaning to life and chances are you will leave highschool and realize how screwed up their philosophy really is <especially when you have a family of your own>). If you are talking about the true European Satanist groups.... <shudders> It is a pretty selfish/narccisistic philosophy.

Anyways, again, I digress.

Best of luck to you and getting the girl, just don't put her on a pedastal.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

So what we have here are literate bipolar teenage satanists in love....in Holland?

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I'm not sure if this makes a better band name or premise for a independent short film.