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YAGT: I <3 my shotgun

Jeeebus

Jeeebus

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Finally made it to an indoor range this weekend that allows you to shoot buckshot. Had taken the shotgun out before, but every other range only allows slugs. Probably went through about 60 shots or so of various types of buckshot.

I was pleasantly surprised about how much more accurate I am with the shotgun than the handgun. I guess it makes sense, but it was still crazy just how accurate the shotgun is. Definitely a treat to fire off some of the defensive/law enforcement rounds with the flight control wads (Federal and Hornady stuff).

Below pic is a target shot with 10 rounds of Hornady TAP 00 at the full length of the range - 15 yards. The big holes off target are just the cartridge flying through. That's 80 lead balls on center mass - unless he's a super zombie, should do the trick.

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mizzou said:
I wouldn't say "crazy accurate" lol 😛
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With that kind of weapon, "accurate" is all relative.

I'd like to try target shooting but there are very few places around here that do it due to the strict gun laws. Ironically, it's legal to own a crossbow without a license, which is just as destructive. It's considered an air gun. :thumbsup:
 
mizzou said:
I wouldn't say "crazy accurate" lol 😛
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The dude with 80 holes in him is probably not going to argue semantics over how accurate the gun is. 😛

Took a few shots for me to realize that it tends to shoot higher than I thought. First target was missing its head after a couple shots.
 
Had an indoor range tell me no 00 once, too. They claimed their plates weren't "setup" for 00 or 000 but slugs were fine. I was shooting .410 3" Magnum 1/4 ounce slugs that day, ticking along at 1,800'ish FPS. A friend was shooting 12 gauge 1 ounce slugs, non-Magnums, probably 1,500'ish FPS (not sure really). Those were ok but buck shot wasn't?

I didn't argue with the guy, it's not my range, no problem but his explanation didn't make sense to me.
 
Oh, and a week earlier at that same range I was shooting my .444 running 300 grain loads at around 2,200 FPS. Those were OK too...
 
Vic Vega said:
Had an indoor range tell me no 00 once, too. They claimed their plates weren't "setup" for 00 or 000 but slugs were fine. I was shooting .410 3" Magnum 1/4 ounce slugs that day, ticking along at 1,800'ish FPS. A friend was shooting 12 gauge 1 ounce slugs, non-Magnums, probably 1,500'ish FPS (not sure really). Those were ok but buck shot wasn't?

I didn't argue with the guy, it's not my range, no problem but his explanation didn't make sense to me.
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My local indoor range doesn't allow steel core ammo. Not sure about 00 buck.
 
Yeah, I get the steel core ban, they don't want ricochets and they don't want you punching holes in their plates.
 
What kind of shotgun? Target looks good to me. It's a shotgun folks, your not going to get a nice little centered group. Vast majority of the shot in the 9 ring at 15 yards will get the job done.
 
boomhower said:
What kind of shotgun? Target looks good to me. It's a shotgun folks, your not going to get a nice little centered group. Vast majority of the shot in the 9 ring at 15 yards will get the job done.
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Remington 11-87 Police (the 18" barrel one).
 
A couple of years ago a buddy of mine and I tested several types of 00 buckshot. Out of our test, Sellier & Bellot gave the best patterns. Winchester gave some of the worst patterns.

We also chronographed the loads. It seemed that the slower the rounds traveled, the better the pattern. Sellier & Bellot on average was in the 900fps range. Some of the loads in the 1,100+ fos, gave the worst patterns.

From the test my buddy and I did, subsonic loads gave the best patterns, and they were easy on the ears.
 
Texashiker said:
A couple of years ago a buddy of mine and I tested several types of 00 buckshot. Out of our test, Sellier & Bellot gave the best patterns. Winchester gave some of the worst patterns.

We also chronographed the loads. It seemed that the slower the rounds traveled, the better the pattern. Sellier & Bellot on average was in the 900fps range. Some of the loads in the 1,100+ fos, gave the worst patterns.

From the test my buddy and I did, subsonic loads gave the best patterns, and they were easy on the ears.
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Subsonic is fine for target shooting but of you want to put someone or something down you want those pellets moving fast. Otherwise you'll give em a nice rash.
 
AMCRambler said:
Subsonic is fine for target shooting but of you want to put someone or something down you want those pellets moving fast. Otherwise you'll give em a nice rash.
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The majority of 45acp ammo is sub-sonic, and it does not have an issue taking its target down.
 
most ranges should have properly setup berms and bullet traps, the reason for not allowing buckshot or steel cased ammo is usually the range staff not wanting to have to clean up the mess or sort thru the brass.
 
gorobei said:
most ranges should have properly setup berms and bullet traps, the reason for not allowing buckshot or steel cased ammo is usually the range staff not wanting to have to clean up the mess or sort thru the brass.
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Ranges around here are getting better about the steel cased ammo, they've started to understand that it's really easy to seperate the steel cases from the brass with a big magnet.

Steel cored ammo is a different story because it chews up the back stop and change of riccochet is higher.
 
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