YAFantasyBaseballT: Trade question 2

[Ilmater]

I need starting pitching, so a guy is offering me this trade for Vlad:

Magglio Ordóñez
Dmitri Young
Mark Mulder

-for-

Vladimir Guerrero

My team is:

C I. Rodríguez (Det - C)
1B D. Lee (ChC - 1B)
2B J. Reyes (NYM - 2B,SS)
3B M. Mora (Bal - 3B)
SS J. Rollins (Phi - SS)
OF J. Bay (Pit - OF)
OF V. Guerrero (LAA - OF)
OF I. Suzuki (Sea - OF)
Util M. AlouDL (SF - OF)
BN C. Crisp (Cle - OF)
BN J. Kendall (Oak - C)
BN B. Wilkerson (Was - 1B,OF)

P M. Rivera (NYY - P)
P C. Carpenter (StL - P)
P F. Cordero (Tex - P)
P L. Hernández (Was - P)
P J. Isringhausen (StL - P)
P Ol. Pérez (Pit - P)
BN B. Ryan (Bal - P)
BN J. Weaver (LAD - P)

I could use some starting pitching, but I'm very hesitant to give up Vlad. Your thoughts? Think Mulder will come back strong at some point? Does having two other Cardinals pitchers make it a bad idea to grab Mulder as well?

 

[Toasthead]

remember you need to take into account who else you would drop to find spots on your roster for the extra players, you are essentially trading those players too.

that being said, I would NEVER trade Vald for Mulder. You can get more.

Remember the old saying: Champions never trade quality for quantity.

 

[osiris3mc]

Originally posted by: Toasthead
remember you need to take into account who else you would drop to find spots on your roster for the extra players.

Remember the old saying: Champions never trade quality for quantity.

Excellent point, you'll have to drop some quality guys.

 

[Argo]

No way. Young is a low avrg hitter who hasn't been healthy last 2 years. Mulder has a lot of question marks and looked aweful of late. Magglio plays for a bad team and has health questions surrounding him. Hold on to Vlad.

 

[chowmein]

thats a fantasy tactic. your team is stacked.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: chowmein
thats a fantasy tactic. your team is stacked.

You like my team the way it is? You believe I should just keep my current lineup?

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: chowmein
thats a fantasy tactic. your team is stacked.

You like my team the way it is? You believe I should just keep my current lineup?

Its hard to say..how many teams are in you league...your team is obviously underahcieving ruight now OPerez has struggled and Weaver got rocked in his last outing. That ownt continue for either of them. you seem to be pretty balanced on O. I dont think getting Mulder will help you as much as losing Vlad will hurt you.

 

[Toasthead]

If you are really worried about your SP trade one of those closers youve got. They are gonna fetch a big premium and you wont hardly feel it.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: chowmein
thats a fantasy tactic. your team is stacked.

You like my team the way it is? You believe I should just keep my current lineup?

Its hard to say..how many teams are in you league...your team is obviously underahcieving ruight now OPerez has struggled and Weaver got rocked in his last outing. That ownt continue for either of them. you seem to be pretty balanced on O. I dont think getting Mulder will help you as much as losing Vlad will hurt you.

10-team league, and yes, some of my best players are getting rocked. Don't forget Rivera...

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Toasthead
If you are really worried about your SP trade ne of those closers youve got. They are gonna fetch a big premium and you wont hardly feel it.

Yeah, but it's hard to get anyone to give up their starters since they know I need them. They're trying to get too much from me.

 

[chowmein]

you'll get a ton of SBs and a very good Batting Avg. maybe some RBIs but not enough to lead your league.

keep Vlad for sure.

your pitching should carry you throughout the season. O. Perez will break out soon enough. but your SP sucks, it's mediocre at best.

you'll get a few more HR when Alou returns.

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: chowmein
thats a fantasy tactic. your team is stacked.

You like my team the way it is? You believe I should just keep my current lineup?

Its hard to say..how many teams are in you league...your team is obviously underahcieving ruight now OPerez has struggled and Weaver got rocked in his last outing. That ownt continue for either of them. you seem to be pretty balanced on O. I dont think getting Mulder will help you as much as losing Vlad will hurt you.

10-team league, and yes, some of my best players are getting rocked. Don't forget Rivera...

exactly. Its too early to panic and trade your best player. Maybe you should see if you can get the team who has Johnson to panic and trade him!

 

[chowmein]

forget randy johnson, he'll get owned in the AL for sure. aim for Pedro or Johan

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: chowmein
you'll get a ton of SBs and a very good Batting Avg. maybe some RBIs but not enough to lead your league.

keep Vlad for sure.

your pitching should carry you throughout the season. O. Perez will break out soon enough. but your SP sucks, it's mediocre at best.

you'll get a few more HR when Alou returns.

I wouldnt say it sucks. O Perez has the ability to be a top 10 SP. Livan is a workhorse,and Weaver got ALOT better by moving to the NL, but the problem is he only has 4 SPs. There must be a TON of Free agents in this league.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Quantity doesn't equal quality. I wouldn't do that type of trade, especially with your lineup.

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: chowmein
forget randy johnson, he'll get owned in the AL for sure. aim for Pedro or Johan

Randy already DOMINATED in the AL:
Year Team G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA

1993 SEA 35 34 19 8 1 10 3 255.1 185 97 92 22 99 308 3.24 1.11 .203
1995 SEA 30 30 18 2 0 6 3 214.1 159 65 59 12 65 294 2.48 1.05 .201
1997 SEA 30 29 20 4 0 5 2 213.0 147 60 54 20 77 291 2.28 1.05 .194

How quickly we forget


The point was RJ COULD be chaeper right now than hes worth because he is off to a slow start. Perdo and Santana are gonna cost a ton.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Toasthead
I wouldnt say it sucks. O Perez has the ability to be a top 10 SP. Livan is a workhorse,and Weaver got ALOT better by moving to the NL, but the problem is he only has 4 SPs. There must be a TON of Free agents in this league.

Would you change who I'm starting then? (not including Alou... I thought I benched him for the week... oops)

 

[chowmein]

LOL thats like 10 years ago.

wait a bit longer on your current lineup don't rush to change anything. if Livan can maintain his current pitching. he can give you very good numbers.

if O. Perez can put up last yrs number. you'll be fine.

and J. Weaver. He has a chance to be an elite pitcher. if he gets consistant.

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: Toasthead
I wouldnt say it sucks. O Perez has the ability to be a top 10 SP. Livan is a workhorse,and Weaver got ALOT better by moving to the NL, but the problem is he only has 4 SPs. There must be a TON of Free agents in this league.

Would you change who I'm starting then? (not including Alou... I thought I benched him for the week... oops)

Im not a huge Carpenter fan, but I dont know who is available for you to pick up. I would also look for an RBI guy to replace Crisp on yer team...you dotn need more Sbs, Rollins Reyes and Suzuki will get ya plenty!

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: chowmein
LOL thats like 10 years ago.

wait a bit longer on your current lineup don't rush to change anything. if Livan can maintain his current pitching. he can give you very good numbers.

if O. Perez can put up last yrs number. you'll be fine.

and J. Weaver. He has a chance to be an elite pitcher. if he gets consistant.

Im just saying..he has PROVEN he can pitch in either league. Its not like its his first league change (pavano, clement) where it pays to be careful when picking them. Pitchers always give up more runs in the AL.

 

[chowmein]

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: Toasthead
I wouldnt say it sucks. O Perez has the ability to be a top 10 SP. Livan is a workhorse,and Weaver got ALOT better by moving to the NL, but the problem is he only has 4 SPs. There must be a TON of Free agents in this league.

Would you change who I'm starting then? (not including Alou... I thought I benched him for the week... oops)

Im not a huge Carpenter fan, but I dont know who is available for you to pick up. I would also look for an RBI guy to replace Crisp on yer team...you dotn need more Sbs, Rollins Reyes and Suzuki will get ya plenty!

Carpy plays for Cards. he'll win AT LEAST 15 games.

everyone on his lineup can steal bases and have about 60 RBI each. your HRs are lacking.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: Toasthead
I wouldnt say it sucks. O Perez has the ability to be a top 10 SP. Livan is a workhorse,and Weaver got ALOT better by moving to the NL, but the problem is he only has 4 SPs. There must be a TON of Free agents in this league.

Would you change who I'm starting then? (not including Alou... I thought I benched him for the week... oops)

Im not a huge Carpenter fan, but I dont know who is available for you to pick up. I would also look for an RBI guy to replace Crisp on yer team...you dotn need more Sbs, Rollins Reyes and Suzuki will get ya plenty!

Cool. Thanks for all the advice guys!

 

[Al Neri]

NEVER TRADE VLAD, HIDEKI OR ICHIRO[/thread]

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: chowmein

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: Toasthead
I wouldnt say it sucks. O Perez has the ability to be a top 10 SP. Livan is a workhorse,and Weaver got ALOT better by moving to the NL, but the problem is he only has 4 SPs. There must be a TON of Free agents in this league.

Would you change who I'm starting then? (not including Alou... I thought I benched him for the week... oops)

Im not a huge Carpenter fan, but I dont know who is available for you to pick up. I would also look for an RBI guy to replace Crisp on yer team...you dotn need more Sbs, Rollins Reyes and Suzuki will get ya plenty!

Carpy plays for Cards. he'll win AT LEAST 15 games.

everyone on his lineup can steal bases and have about 60 RBI each. your HRs are lacking.

Yeah he will win 15 games with a 4.2 ERA and a 1.45 WHIP. There are LOTS of guys who win games...they arent all good.

 

[Al Neri]

trade BJ Ryan for starting pitching

WHY IS MOISES ALOU PLAYING ON UR TEEAM WTF HES BEEN INJURED THE WHOLE SEASON