YAEWBT - Yet another existing while black thread. Modified to all purpose harassment (includes other people of color)

[Lanyap]

Not sure how this is going to work out but it's at least a start. Lawsuit limit should be higher than $250.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-bill-cracks-down-racially-motivated-911-calls-215720798.html

Oregon moved to crack down on racially motivated 911 calls on Monday, responding to a series of publicized incidents across the country where predominantly white civilians called the police on black people going about everyday activities like napping or barbecuing.

Victims of those police calls would be able to sue the caller for up to $250, under a measure overwhelmingly approved by state Senate.

The move is a joint effort by the Oregon Legislature's only three black lawmakers and is meant to "shine a spotlight on an issue African Americans have known for far too long," according to sponsoring Rep. Janelle Bynum.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Not sure how this is going to work out but it's at least a start. Lawsuit limit should be higher than $250.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-bill-cracks-down-racially-motivated-911-calls-215720798.html

Yeah, it'd probably cost the victims more than $250 to just take it to court.

It should just come with a ticketed fine that automatically gets paid to the victim.

 

[soundforbjt]

Just a few bad apples.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...ok-racist-violent-posts-comments-philadelphia

Of the pages of officers whom the Plain View researchers could positively identify, about 1 in 5 of the current officers, and 2 in 5 of the retired officers, made public posts or comments that met that threshold — typically by displaying bias, applauding violence, scoffing at due process, or using dehumanizing language. The officers mocked Mexicans, women, and black people, celebrated the Confederate flag, and showed a man wearing a kaffiyeh scarf in the crosshairs of a gun.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

This seems a wee bit excessive to me...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1138924700137132037

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

This seems a wee bit excessive to me...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1138924700137132037

Christ, what fucking mad men.

What the fuck do they think, have a baby in one hand and a gun in the other?

While I would like more context (what led up to this, a chase? A robbery? etc?) - Regardless, the mom was rightfully pissed to be saying that she can't put both her hands up - and the officer was getting reaaaaaaaal pushy and attack happy towards the end there. Glad those recording were able to step in and tell them to fuck off.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Christ, what fucking mad men.

What the fuck do they think, have a baby in one hand and a gun in the other?

While I would like more context (what led up to this, a chase? A robbery? etc?) - Regardless, the mom was rightfully pissed to be saying that she can't put both her hands up - and the officer was getting reaaaaaaaal pushy and attack happy towards the end there. Glad those recording were able to step in and tell them to fuck off.

As it says in the tweet, the child walked out of a dollar store holding a doll. The police have confirmed that's what they responded to. A four year old shoplifting.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

As it says in the tweet, the child walked out of a dollar store holding a doll. The police have confirmed that's what they responded to. A four year old shoplifting.

1 Sentence isn't giving me enough. Did the store owner notice and call them out to return the item? Or just notice it and call the cops without actually telling the people?

When the cops found them, did they try to chase off? Or did they quickly pull over?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

1 Sentence isn't giving me enough. Did the store owner notice and call them out to return the item? Or just notice it and call the cops without actually telling the people?

When the cops found them, did they try to chase off? Or did they quickly pull over?

They were never arrested. They weren't charged. No actual police report was filed. The police have made no allegation that they did anything. All they have said is they were investigating a possible shoplifting complaint made by an anonymous caller. Court documents show the dollar store never called the police. The family said they had no idea their child walked out with the doll. A lieutenant diffused the situation and sent them on their way.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/shoc...holding-black-family-at-gunpoint-over-1-doll/

 

[Victorian Gray]

A couple of news articles with a bit more info

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...sed-excessive-force-files-lawsuit/1445405001/

https://ktar.com/story/2615233/family-seeks-10m-from-phoenix-over-police-response-to-stolen-doll/

 

[dainthomas]

They were never arrested. They weren't charged. No actual police report was filed. The police have made no allegation that they did anything. All they have said is they were investigating a possible shoplifting complaint made by an anonymous caller. Court documents show the dollar store never called the police. The family said they had no idea their child walked out with the doll. A lieutenant diffused the situation and sent them on their way.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/shoc...holding-black-family-at-gunpoint-over-1-doll/

Sounds like some Karen thought it was appropriate to send armed government officers after a four year old with a 99 cent doll.

 

[DarthKyrie]

Sounds like some Karen thought it was appropriate to send armed government officers after a four year old with a 99 cent doll.

That's what the police are for, they are colored after all gotta stop that shit early or they might think you can have anything you want. Now you just ignore little Bobby over there walking out of the store with $10 worth of stuff in his pockets, he's just a poor little white boy trying to provide for his poor family.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Saw this on the news the day it happened. It was followed a bit later by a story about police responding to a domestic situation. Woman's ex-husband showed up and she called police because he wouldn't leave and was acting aggressive (and she was there with her two sons). He then went crazy and attacked police and they didn't pull guns even after a taser didn't stop him and he continued attacking. They gang tackled him and choked him out instead (which they tried that before they even tasered him). The police immediately rolled in with guns saying they'd fucking shoot them over a kid taking a doll and then kick the guy when he's not even resisting. And people say they can't see any disparity in how police approach things depending on race.

One person (in real life as we were watching this stuff) tried to say that the one couldn't be racism because it was a black cop (that kicked the guy's legs open up against the vehicle). Then they commented that the black community leader (that called a press conference and said the family was gonna sue the hell out of the Phoenix police) wasn't standing up for the white guy against the police.

Full on guarantee that if it wasn't for them becoming aware of the people filming that they would've at minimum beat the hell out of the black guy and possibly the woman, then probably would've charged them with resisting arrest.

Oh and FYI, it was 112 degrees that day, so the mother was absolutely smart to not comply with officers telling her to put the baby down on the pavement. Shit, the day I saw the story isn't the day it happened - the local news place acted like it had just happened (and also reported the temp as hitting 112 that day). So it was about two weeks ago, still hot, it was hitting 100 back in May some. Just checked, said it was 91 that day (was back to 100 like a day or two later though). But yeah officers saying to put a baby down on asphalt/pavement down here should know better.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Sounds like some Karen thought it was appropriate to send armed government officers after a four year old with a 99 cent doll.

Without knowing, that's hard to say. Could just be their security/loss personnel watching cameras caught that and might've assumed they stole more (I've heard its actually fairly common for people to use baby strollers as a means to steal stuff, where they'll hide stuff under the baby even so that if someone makes a fuss they can say that they're trying to hurt their baby).

Which, black people are definitely (unfairly) more scrutinized to begin with in that regard so yeah they've probably ignored worse theft because they didn't pay as much attention to some others. But I wouldn't immediately guess that the store was being that malicious. Stores are going to be apprehensive about handling situations like this because yeah the family could just accuse them of racial profiling and immediately turn it into a media shitstorm when they might've just asked nicely for them to return the doll or pay for it.

Focus should be on the police and how they handled the situation. Even if the family was being a pain in the ass and 100% guilty of intentionally stealing the doll, that's no cause for the behavior that's in the video.

Even though Joe Rape-a-okay-o is no longer sheriff, its not like the Phoenix police are suddenly going to be boy scouts. But then there's a lot of people down here that would like if the police could treat things as the wild west and just kill anyone that did any crime beyond speeding, so its not too surprising.

 

[JEDIYoda]

That's what the police are for, they are colored after all gotta stop that shit early or they might think you can have anything you want. Now you just ignore little Bobby over there walking out of the store with $10 worth of stuff in his pockets, he's just a poor little white boy trying to provide for his poor family.[/Q

That's what the police are for, they are colored after all gotta stop that shit early or they might think you can have anything you want. Now you just ignore little Bobby over there walking out of the store with $10 worth of stuff in his pockets, he's just a poor little white boy trying to provide for his poor family.

I love your humor!!

 

[DarthKyrie]

It's called posting like an ass to make fun of the way that some white people think aka using satire to ridicule.

 

[cytg111]

...

... Some times I wonder what you about.

 

[PoliticalClarity]

Which, black people are definitely (unfairly) more scrutinized to begin with

Blacks are about 12 percent of our population, yet they commit 55 or more percent of the crimes. OF COURSE THEY ARE SCRUTINIZED MORE! Rightfully so.

This thread is for instances of black folk being harassed by LEOs exclusively. Also, please provide a link for your factual claims.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[PJFrylar]

Blacks are about 12 percent of our population, yet they commit 55 or more percent of the crimes. OF COURSE THEY ARE SCRUTINIZED MORE! Rightfully so.

Sorry for not having much in the way of commentary - contrary to the forum rules. I just don't know what to say.

 

[PoliticalClarity]

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Sorry for not having much in the way of commentary - contrary to the forum rules. I just don't know what to say.

How about just looking it up to see I'm right even? (spoiler alert: I am).

 

[PJFrylar]

How about just looking it up to see I'm right even? (spoiler alert: I am).

I'm not sure where you get those exact figures, but there is one thing I'm sure of. You completely ignore socioeconomic factors as well as lack a genetic differences between "races." Rightfully so my fucking ass, bigot.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I'm not sure where you get those exact figures, but there is one thing I'm sure of. You completely ignore socioeconomic factors as well as lack a genetic differences between "races." Rightfully so my fucking ass, bigot.

I made a different thread to discuss because I’m not sure they want this to take place within this one. Not sure where the genetic comment came from, was he suggesting a genetic difference? But what’s causing this, is it just poverty..?

You were warned not to post in this thread in this manner.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[esquared]

I made a different thread to discuss because I’m not sure they want this to take place within this one. Not sure where the genetic comment came from, was he suggesting a genetic difference? But what’s causing this, is it just poverty..?

I made a different thread to discuss because I’m not sure they want this to take place within this one. Not sure where the genetic comment came from, was he suggesting a genetic difference? But what’s causing this, is it just poverty..?

Don't derail this thread with your horseshit. So no, we don't want that discussion in this thread.
This thread is for posting instances of "existing while black".

You want to discuss poverty and genetics of the situation? Do it in the thread you said you made.

 

[brycejones]

Blacks are about 12 percent of our population, yet they commit 55 or more percent of the crimes. OF COURSE THEY ARE SCRUTINIZED MORE! Rightfully so.

Incorruptible is that you?

 

[pmv]

I'm not sure where you get those exact figures, but there is one thing I'm sure of. You completely ignore socioeconomic factors as well as lack a genetic differences between "races." Rightfully so my fucking ass, bigot.

Also doesn't seem in any way relevant to the case of a child and a dollar store doll. Are there stats showing small children who might have purloined a 99cent doll are likely to pull out an uzi and turn into the Terminator? (But only if they are black, of course).

 

[fskimospy]

Blacks are about 12 percent of our population, yet they commit 55 or more percent of the crimes. OF COURSE THEY ARE SCRUTINIZED MORE! Rightfully so.

Do you think they commit 55% or more of the crimes or do you think they constitute 55% or more of those arrested or convicted of crimes? Those are two very different things.

For example, this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/