YAEWBT - Yet another existing while black thread. Modified to all purpose harassment (includes other people of color)

[Viper1j]

Sometimes you do it to the wrong person, and screw yourself for life.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/us/911-call-bill-trnd/index.html

She called cops when he was campaigning while black; he filed a bill to criminalize racially biased 911 calls


State Sen. Jesse Hamilton says he thought a woman was joking when she said she was going to call 911 while he was on the street campaigning.

A black New York state senator who says a woman called 911 on him for campaigning has introduced a bill to punish people for making racially motivated police reports.

Earlier this month, state Sen. Jesse Hamilton was campaigning in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, when a woman who Hamilton said didn't agree with his criticism of President Donald Trump called 911 when Hamilton refused to leave the public street corner. "I said 'I'm not leaving.' She said, 'I'm going to call the police.' I thought she was joking," Hamilton said.

Hamilton hopes to pass legislation making these types of reports a crime in New York. "My civil rights were violated and other peoples' civil rights are being violated. We have to make sure people understand you can't call the police on someone who isn't doing anything wrong," he said.

Over the past few months, numerous people of color have been victims of 911 calls while going about their everyday lives. Someone called 911 on a student at Smith College while she was eating lunch, a state representative in Oregon while she was canvassing and a girl selling water on a sidewalk.

The proposed bill would require the local district attorney to investigate these incidents as hate crimes. If a report is determined to be racially motivated, the district attorney would then recommend one of a number of consequences, including fines, sensitivity training or jail time.

Sensitivity training has been used by private corporations after similar incidents, such as when Starbucks closed its stores nationwide in May after an employee called the police on two men waiting for a friend.

Hamilton said he doesn't want to deter people from calling 911. "It's already a crime to make a false report, we just want to enhance it to send a message that you can't just look at someone going about their ordinary life and call 911," he said.

Hamilton said demographics in the areas he represents are changing rapidly. New York University's Furman Center released a report earlier this month that shows that Crown Heights' black population decreased from 79% to 66.3% between 2000 and 2016. In the same time the white population more than doubled -- from 8.6% to 19.8% -- and the median rent jumped from $980 per month to $1,320.

Kristen Clarke, president of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law and former head of the Civil Rights Bureau for the New York Attorney General's Office, said she applauds the senator for what she called a feasible proposal. "I think these calls are intended to marginalize people of color and drive them out of communities. Strong laws and meaningful action on the part of lawmakers can help to curb this conduct," Clarke said. She added that, if it passes, the bill could inspire other states to take similar measures.

The New York State Legislature is not in session, but Hamilton's bill is in committee awaiting a spot on the legislative calendar.

 

[Lanyap]

Sometimes you do it to the wrong person, and screw yourself for life.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/us/911-call-bill-trnd/index.html

She called cops when he was campaigning while black; he filed a bill to criminalize racially biased 911 calls

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State Sen. Jesse Hamilton says he thought a woman was joking when she said she was going to call 911 while he was on the street campaigning.

A black New York state senator who says a woman called 911 on him for campaigning has introduced a bill to punish people for making racially motivated police reports.

Earlier this month, state Sen. Jesse Hamilton was campaigning in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, when a woman who Hamilton said didn't agree with his criticism of President Donald Trump called 911 when Hamilton refused to leave the public street corner. "I said 'I'm not leaving.' She said, 'I'm going to call the police.' I thought she was joking," Hamilton said.

Hamilton hopes to pass legislation making these types of reports a crime in New York. "My civil rights were violated and other peoples' civil rights are being violated. We have to make sure people understand you can't call the police on someone who isn't doing anything wrong," he said.

Over the past few months, numerous people of color have been victims of 911 calls while going about their everyday lives. Someone called 911 on a student at Smith College while she was eating lunch, a state representative in Oregon while she was canvassing and a girl selling water on a sidewalk.

The proposed bill would require the local district attorney to investigate these incidents as hate crimes. If a report is determined to be racially motivated, the district attorney would then recommend one of a number of consequences, including fines, sensitivity training or jail time.

Sensitivity training has been used by private corporations after similar incidents, such as when Starbucks closed its stores nationwide in May after an employee called the police on two men waiting for a friend.

Hamilton said he doesn't want to deter people from calling 911. "It's already a crime to make a false report, we just want to enhance it to send a message that you can't just look at someone going about their ordinary life and call 911," he said.

Hamilton said demographics in the areas he represents are changing rapidly. New York University's Furman Center released a report earlier this month that shows that Crown Heights' black population decreased from 79% to 66.3% between 2000 and 2016. In the same time the white population more than doubled -- from 8.6% to 19.8% -- and the median rent jumped from $980 per month to $1,320.

Kristen Clarke, president of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law and former head of the Civil Rights Bureau for the New York Attorney General's Office, said she applauds the senator for what she called a feasible proposal. "I think these calls are intended to marginalize people of color and drive them out of communities. Strong laws and meaningful action on the part of lawmakers can help to curb this conduct," Clarke said. She added that, if it passes, the bill could inspire other states to take similar measures.

The New York State Legislature is not in session, but Hamilton's bill is in committee awaiting a spot on the legislative calendar.

Good for him filing that bill. Hopefully it has enough teeth to make people think before they call. Unfortunately these type of people probably watch fox news all day and don't get this type of news so they won't know what's happening when they get arrested. Oh wait, that's OK.

 

[HomerJS]

Sometimes you do it to the wrong person, and screw yourself for life.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/20/us/911-call-bill-trnd/index.html

She called cops when he was campaigning while black; he filed a bill to criminalize racially biased 911 calls

View attachment 1650
State Sen. Jesse Hamilton says he thought a woman was joking when she said she was going to call 911 while he was on the street campaigning.

A black New York state senator who says a woman called 911 on him for campaigning has introduced a bill to punish people for making racially motivated police reports.

Earlier this month, state Sen. Jesse Hamilton was campaigning in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, when a woman who Hamilton said didn't agree with his criticism of President Donald Trump called 911 when Hamilton refused to leave the public street corner. "I said 'I'm not leaving.' She said, 'I'm going to call the police.' I thought she was joking," Hamilton said.

Hamilton hopes to pass legislation making these types of reports a crime in New York. "My civil rights were violated and other peoples' civil rights are being violated. We have to make sure people understand you can't call the police on someone who isn't doing anything wrong," he said.

Over the past few months, numerous people of color have been victims of 911 calls while going about their everyday lives. Someone called 911 on a student at Smith College while she was eating lunch, a state representative in Oregon while she was canvassing and a girl selling water on a sidewalk.

The proposed bill would require the local district attorney to investigate these incidents as hate crimes. If a report is determined to be racially motivated, the district attorney would then recommend one of a number of consequences, including fines, sensitivity training or jail time.

Sensitivity training has been used by private corporations after similar incidents, such as when Starbucks closed its stores nationwide in May after an employee called the police on two men waiting for a friend.

Hamilton said he doesn't want to deter people from calling 911. "It's already a crime to make a false report, we just want to enhance it to send a message that you can't just look at someone going about their ordinary life and call 911," he said.

Hamilton said demographics in the areas he represents are changing rapidly. New York University's Furman Center released a report earlier this month that shows that Crown Heights' black population decreased from 79% to 66.3% between 2000 and 2016. In the same time the white population more than doubled -- from 8.6% to 19.8% -- and the median rent jumped from $980 per month to $1,320.

Kristen Clarke, president of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law and former head of the Civil Rights Bureau for the New York Attorney General's Office, said she applauds the senator for what she called a feasible proposal. "I think these calls are intended to marginalize people of color and drive them out of communities. Strong laws and meaningful action on the part of lawmakers can help to curb this conduct," Clarke said. She added that, if it passes, the bill could inspire other states to take similar measures.

The New York State Legislature is not in session, but Hamilton's bill is in committee awaiting a spot on the legislative calendar.

I agree with this bill. Good move by Hamilton

 

[nakedfrog]

Good for him filing that bill. Hopefully it has enough teeth to make people think before they call. Unfortunately these type of people probably watch fox news all day and don't get this type of news so they won't know what's happening when they get arrested. Oh wait, that's OK.

They'll just perceive it as them being discriminated against for being white/"reverse racism", and more proof that the liberals hate America and continue to ruin it at every turn.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/us/l...utm_content=2018-12-20T18:13:22&utm_term=link

A nice summary of 2018.

Living while black

Here are all the routine activities for which police were called on African-Americans this year

 

[Viper1j]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/us/living-while-black-police-calls-trnd/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-12-20T18:13:22&utm_term=link

A nice summary of 2018.

I was going to post that last night. I was trying to decide if it deserved it's own thread..

I'd to see an article like "Where Are They Now?"

With BBQ Becky , Permit Patty, Cornerstore Caroline and the rest. I know ID Adam got fired, and so did “Apartment Patty.

And now, our newest entrant is..'Golfcart Gail'

Soccer Dad while black.

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/arti...on-soccer-dad-during-childs-game/77-604841652

A witness posted the incident on Facebook over the weekend and it has since gone viral. She captioned it "SOCCER WHILE BLACK," but a Ponte Vedra recreation official said it has more to do with parents behaving badly during games.

A new video of a St. Johns County woman shows her calling police on a father of a teen soccer player as he and his wife attempted to leave the field.

The second video follows an initial recording reported by First Coast News yesterday.

A witness named Ginger Williams recorded the incident on her cell phone and posted it to her Facebook page, headlining it "SOCCER WHILE BLACK." She dubbed the field marshal who called the police "Golfcart Gail" because she approached the father while riding in a golf cart.


Williams said the father was speaking to his son about a call the ref made, and that when he attempted to leave to defuse the situation, the field marshal called police.

Maria Morales-Walther witnessed the encounter and began recording when the field marshal threatened to call the police on the father. She posted her video in the comments section of Williams' post.

"At no point was he aggressive," Morales-Walther said. She said she witnessed another parent getting thrown out prior to the incident on video. She said the father told his son to be quiet and that the ref was correct.

It was at that point the field marshal came over and told the father he could not speak to the ref. When the man tried to explain he was speaking to his son, not the ref, Morales-Walther said that the field marshal told him to "go sit down." When the father continued to explain, the field marshal said he needed to leave or she would call the police.

The father and his wife had packed up their lawn chairs and were leaving when Morales-Walther began recording. "She kept circling them and agitating them," said Morales-Walther, "That's the most aggressive he had ever gotten, in my video."

In the video the father can be seen telling the field marshal that he was only speaking to his son, "And I get this from you? This is stupid!"

When the field marshal saw Morales-Walther taping her, she attempted to throw her out as well and began detailing to the police that someone was taping her. "You can tape yourself, as you're walking out," the field marshal can be heard saying.


Morales-Walther also witnessed the field marshal telling deputies that she "feared for herself and the children because she didn't know what he [the father] was capable of." Morales-Walther said she stepped in at that point to show the deputies her video, to demonstrate that the father wasn't a threat.

"She never announced herself to parents," said Morales-Walther. It wasn't until she overheard the field marshal talking to police that she knew who she was. Morales-Walther said she identified herself the president of the Athletic Association.

Williams' Facebook post continues to spread with people alleging that this is yet another case in a national trend of people calling police against a person of color.

Gary Easom, president of the Ponte Vedra Athletic Association, told First Coast News the incident is being mischaracterized on social media, and is more about parents behaving badly while watching their child play soccer.

During this particular game, the players were 15 years old. Easom said a father had already been ejected for being verbally abusive to the high school-aged referees. He also said a mother was scolded for using profanity in the stands.

Easom, who was not at the game, said the field marshal reported the incidents to him. "This happens more times than I would like," he said, adding that police are usually not called.

The father later told deputies he was simply coaching his son up. "I told him 'Hey, the ref is always right,'" he's heard telling the deputies on Williams' video.

Easom said parents are not supposed to approach their children during the game.

Ginger Williams, who shot the original video, said the father attempted to leave because of the altercation, but the field marshal called police anyway.

St. Johns County deputies spoke with the father, the field marshal and Williams who said she videotaped the incident because she wanted to ensure the safety of the parent.

Deputies let the dad go and said they would not detain him. At that point the field marshal says she's glad police didn't detain him. "Good," she says in the cell phone recording. "I didn't want anything like that done,"

One of the deputies on scene said to Williams that it is within the marshal's right to call the police and that he was there to defuse the situation.

 

[blackangst1]

Staff at a bank in Ohio called police on a black man trying to cash his paycheck

Although I understand fairly recent bank laws indicate banks should "know their customer" to curtail terrorist moiney laindering, this definately couldve/shouldve been handled differently.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Staff at a bank in Ohio called police on a black man trying to cash his paycheck

Although I understand fairly recent bank laws indicate banks should "know their customer" to curtail terrorist moiney laindering, this definately couldve/shouldve been handled differently.

Yeah, they could have simply cashed his legal cheque.

 

[esquared]

Staff at a bank in Ohio called police on a black man trying to cash his paycheck

Although I understand fairly recent bank laws indicate banks should "know their customer" to curtail terrorist moiney laindering, this definately couldve/shouldve been handled differently.

Posted a few days ago. Previous page:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...pose-harassment.2545608/page-15#post-39680766

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeah, they could have simply cashed his legal cheque.

At worst they should have said "I need to contact your employer before I can cash that." & sent him back out the door. Which probably would have been racist, anyway, just not the stupidest kind of racist. Fuckin' maroons for calling the cops.

 

[esquared]

Here's another guy that tells an African American, "you don't live here".
I am naming this one "Stanley-the wannabee-superintendent "
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vid...-doesnt-believe-lives-building-131647054.html

"What are you doing in my building?” the white man asks. “You don’t live here.”

Chika Okafor, who works for the sports website Bleacher Report, posted a video of the confrontation, saying that it took place the night before. He wrote that the man in the video “interrogated” him while he was waiting for a Lyft on the first floor of his apartment building with a friend, who caught the whole exchange on video.
"
Expose this POS.

 

[dingster1]

I only have to deal with issues like that, if I should stop at a branch in a more rural area. I never have to deal with it in the big city.

I loved the look on this one old lady's face, when I presented a check for $900 made out to "cash". She looked at me like I had stolen the damn thing, called over her manager, (she looked like Santa Claus could've been her son, and she hadn't even asked me for my ID, just gave me one of those old lady looks). The manager asked me exactly what was my connection to the company, and was I an authorized signer on the account.

My reply shocked them both, I said: "I would assume so, after all I am the president, and 100% owner of the company."

I will never tire of rubbing a hillbilly's nose in that little fact.

I pity the fool that would dare to ever try to call the cops on me at my bank. I can 1000% guarantee you that, 1. They will be unemployed, and 2. The bank would most likely settle out of court with me in exchange for a hefty deposit into my account.

High 5 man!

 

[FirNaTine]

Except it wasn't fraudulent, and they had not PROVEN that it was!

Please tell me that if you had presented your paycheck to the bank, and as reported, had "presented the tellers with two forms of identification and offered his fingerprint" that you would have considered being put in handcuffs and loaded, in front of everyone, into a police cruiser like a felon, that YOU would have shrugged your shoulders and considered that, to use your words, well, gee, "that was done as minimally as needed."

You seem to wish to be blind to the ugly and unnecessary indignity that happened here. The question is, WHY?

I'm not blind to anything. What happened isn't right. But none of the information about him offering two IDs, or fingerprint to the police was relayed to them by the callers by any source I can find. You're conflating what actually happened, with what information police had upon initial contact.

Police were informed he was had already committed one felony (having a forged check is one in and of itself as I posted above) and attempting to commit a second felony (cashing it) and then trying to leave the area, and being unaware police were coming.

That's it as far as information they had when they encountered him in his vehicle trying to leave from any source I can find.

What do you suggest the police do? Ignore a bank that had roughly a dozen fraud cases in the months prior, and not consider them a (previously) reliable source? Just let the guy leave, and destroy the check? I don't know their particular police policies, but from what I've seen, having been on scene with multiple different agencies is person being detained is likely cuffed, (especially if it's a felony or they feel the person is a risk to flee), patted down for weapons, and further information gathered. They're usually told some variation of they're not under arrest, but detained for further investigation. The police then gather the info to either release them or charge them at which point they either come out of cuffs or are told they're being arrested.

Yes, the tellers messed up very much saying it was fraudulent when it wasn't, and what happened to him, never should have. But that's not the fault of the police. I'd go so far as to say the bank employees possibly criminally messed up with the false information/false report to police. Knowingly placing a false call to 911 is a crime in many jurisdictions. Because things like this happen when police are given false information. Saying we couldn't verify it, but he gave us two IDs and a finger print would likely have made this go much different than what they were quoted as saying in the released report/transcript of recordings.

As far as what I'd do, I'd be pissed and blame the person that gave them false information (the tellers/manager/whoever called).

 

[Vic]

Being a paying guest in a hotel while black.

https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2018/12/portland-hotel-calls-cops-on-black-guest-in-lobby.html

 

[dainthomas]

Being a paying guest in a hotel while black.

https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2018/12/portland-hotel-calls-cops-on-black-guest-in-lobby.html

Portland is super racist.

Since when can't you stand in a hotel lobby and talk on the phone?

 

[HomerJS]

Meanwhile Republican white boys still stick to their story us black people are just making this shit up. They claim racism is over...
Black Man Records White Neighbor Telling Him He Doesn't Belong in His Own Apartment Building

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-man-records-white-neighbor-005929610.html

 

[Viper1j]

Being a paying guest in a hotel while black.

https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2018/12/portland-hotel-calls-cops-on-black-guest-in-lobby.html

Their Facebook page is jacked up now, even though they turned off reviews, (I wonder why?) Every single post they have, has been replied to with posts demanding the firing of the security guarded manager.

Apparently they also hired someone to do nothing except stay on the Internet, and turn off review capability for every place they have presence.

 

[purbeast0]

Here's another guy that tells an African American, "you don't live here".
I am naming this one "Stanley-the wannabee-superintendent "
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vid...-doesnt-believe-lives-building-131647054.html

"What are you doing in my building?” the white man asks. “You don’t live here.”

Chika Okafor, who works for the sports website Bleacher Report, posted a video of the confrontation, saying that it took place the night before. He wrote that the man in the video “interrogated” him while he was waiting for a Lyft on the first floor of his apartment building with a friend, who caught the whole exchange on video.
"
Expose this POS.

Hahaha this one is great. The white dude is all like 'WHAT IS YOUR APARTMENT NUMBER WHERE DO YOU LIVE?" and the black dude is like that's none of your business.

Then when they leave they ask the white dude what his name is and he stutters like shit basically acting like his name is none of their business.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Expose this POS.

Was just skimming the thread and saw this and was rather surprised. I think it’s dangerous to be calling for doxxing and e-justice.

 

[HomerJS]

Was just skimming the thread and saw this and was rather surprised. I think it’s dangerous to be calling for doxxing and e-justice.

Why? I guess people like me should just put up with this racism cause its Merica? Don't want to interfere with white people's free-dumb?

Continue to bury our heads in the sand? None of the people outed have suffered physical consequences. They have however felt the weight of public opinion.

 

[UglyCasanova]

If you don’t understand the dangers of e-mobs I’m not sure what to tell you.

 

[HomerJS]

If you don’t understand the dangers of e-mobs I’m not sure what to tell you.

and you clearly don't believe in the evils of racism. Ok genius what's your solution absent outing them?

Now's your chance, impress us.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Lol.."e-mobs"?!..wtf is that?..I did quite a few "e-bombs" in the early ninties...good times..

 

[UglyCasanova]

It is evil and I don’t know what the solution is. I do know the dangers of ruining people’s lives based on ejustice though.

 

[woolfe9998]

Being a paying guest in a hotel while black.

https://www.oregonlive.com/business/2018/12/portland-hotel-calls-cops-on-black-guest-in-lobby.html

Yeah, read about this one this morning. I'm not usually interested in these kinds of stories because it is often difficult to determine whether the motive was racist or not. But in this particular case, it's awfully hard to understand why they demand to see his room key when he's just taking a call in the lobby, then throw him out even after he shows it to them. I've stayed in hotels at least 100 times, even "loitered" in lobbies waiting for people much longer than this guy was on the phone, and never once been randomly asked for my room key.