YAET: Had wrong address on paypal account, but sent correction before item shipped

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: BigJ
I was thinking of maybe having some sympathy. But after quoting all these laws like you're some attorney or something, I hope you get screwed.

Actually, I've had a law license since '97, but thanks for the love. Anyway, although I always figured a court would back me; I was just curious about other people's opinions. And I don't think it's a huge stretch that if you're going to run an ebay business, you read your e-mail once in a while, and don't wait a week to respond.

Figured a court would back you?

Guess what. According to the Paypal Seller's Protection Policy, she is not allowed to send to any e-mail address other than the one that is confirmed with the account. Otherwise, she forfeits all protection. Also, when you sent the e-mail, did you request a receipt be sent upon her reading it? Actually call her since it is a Paypal business?

Honestly, go ahead and take it to court for a WHOPPING $9. The seller did the right thing. If there were any notes, they should've been included in the e-mail when you won the auction or sent your Paypal money, not in a separate e-mail. For all she knows, your e-mail could've looked like spam, which is why she didn't open it.

I guess it's true what they say about lawyers being the lowest form of life.

 

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[vshah]

why did you start this thread if you don't want to listen to what everyone is telling you?

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

There was clearly time for her to correct the address. She should pay to have it shipped.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: vshah
why did you start this thread if you don't want to listen to what everyone is telling you?

Curiosity. Law is an evolutionary thing, especially the law of electronic commerce, which is in its infancy. Among other things, it is a codification of the practices of a community, so it's never really 'set'; as a community's practices will evolve, so the law will eventually follow. I know there are lots of traders here, so I wanted to get some other thoughts.

 

[UncleWai]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
There was clearly time for her to correct the address. She should pay to have it shipped.

Yeah seriously, matter of fact, he should sue her for the emotional toll of this whole ordeal. Hell he should sue Paypal for not reminding him to change his confrimed address.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
There was clearly time for her to correct the address. She should pay to have it shipped.

Thank you.

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: UncleWai

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
There was clearly time for her to correct the address. She should pay to have it shipped.

Yeah seriously, matter of fact, he should sue her for the emotional toll of this whole ordeal. Hell he should sue Paypal for not reminding him to change his confrimed address.

Sarcasm doesn't really address the issue. Are you saying three days isn't enough time to correct the address?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: UncleWai

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
There was clearly time for her to correct the address. She should pay to have it shipped.

Yeah seriously, matter of fact, he should sue her for the emotional toll of this whole ordeal. Hell he should sue Paypal for not reminding him to change his confrimed address.

Sarcasm doesn't really address the issue. Are you saying three days isn't enough time to correct the address?

Are you saying that you shouldn't have changed your address ahead of time?

Are you saying you shouldn't have used the box Paypal/Ebay provides you when paying for the order, to give the seller specific instructions? For example, you could've used it to request shipping to another address?

 

[AznAnarchy99]

you ask what people think, you shun them when they say it, and you praise the people who agree with you?

and you're thinking about court over 9 dollars...

You didnt tell her your shipping addy when you paid her. I dont know about you but some people arent online all the time. She went by what YOU told her.

 

[DaWhim]

the seller failed to check the email. if she had checked and replied to your email, this wouldn't happen. she failed to have a prompt communicate.

have her send it to your new address or do everything in your power to have your money back.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: TheGoodGuy

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Your fault, you cover it.

Viper GTS

qft

 

[Ns1]

your fault

 

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
you ask what people think, you shun them when they say it

I've been civil to everyone, as far as that's concerned. I don't care if people don't agree with me; I've never claimed always to be right. But I do think the fact I tried to correct my own mistake (which I freely admitted was my mistake) quickly should count for something for mitigation purposes.

and you're thinking about court over 9 dollars...

I'm not seriously thinking about filing a suit; I only said I think I'd win if I did.

You didnt tell her your shipping addy when you paid her. I dont know about you but some people arent online all the time. She went by what YOU told her.

Actually, the e-mail to her telling her my paypal address was wrong was sent less than five minutes after the paypal payment notification was sent. As soon as I got my receipt from paypal, I realized I didn't have the new address entered, and immediately sent a correction. She didn't ship for three more days.

 

[rufruf44]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
you ask what people think, you shun them when they say it

I've been civil to everyone, as far as that's concerned. I don't care if people don't agree with me; I've never claimed always to be right. But I do think the fact I tried to correct my own mistake (which I freely admitted was my mistake) quickly should count for something for mitigation purposes.

and you're thinking about court over 9 dollars...

I'm not seriously thinking about filing a suit; I only said I think I'd win if I did.

You didnt tell her your shipping addy when you paid her. I dont know about you but some people arent online all the time. She went by what YOU told her.

Actually, the e-mail to her telling her my paypal address was wrong was sent less than five minutes after the paypal payment notification was sent. As soon as I got my receipt from paypal, I realized I didn't have the new address entered, and immediately sent a correction. She didn't ship for three more days.

She could've read the paypal notification and not check her email again for an extended period. There's no telling how long has elapsed before your email reached her inbox. Can't see why the seller should absorb the shipping cost.

 

[Yossarian]

I think I'll add a note to my auctions from now on specifying "no attorneys please".

 

[KarenMarie]

bottom line is that the original error was your fault. whatever errors or consequences led from your original error should be your your fault due to the original oversight on your part.

and it is wrong, imho, for you to try to get someone else to pay for your mistake... and wrong that you are looking for loopoles and reasons why you should not step up to the plate and pay for your own mistakes.

 

[RiDE]

YOU

 

[Slew Foot]

Oh I get it now, you're an a-hole lawyer. I hope she sues you for being an idiot.

 

[olds]

This is a no brainer. The OP is at fault.
/thread

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Mursilis


Yes, but the common law recognizes something called the "last clear chance" doctrine, in which the party with the last clear chance to avoid the damages is liable for failing to prevent the loss. Say, if I loaned you my car, knowing the brakes were bad, but not saying anything, I would be at fault if you then crashed the car due to the bad brakes. However, if later I told you about the brakes before you had driven it, if you then drove it, I wouldn't be liable because you were the party with the last clear chance of preventing your own injuries.

please... please, stop trying to shirk responsibility. i dont wanna sound mean, but my guess is that if you continue with this kind of logic, most of the members here are gonna hammer you.

it was your fault, just own it.

OK, if I had a responsibility to have the correct address on my ebay and paypal accounts (which I did), how does the seller not have a responsibility to read her e-mail at least every three days?

the seller read the email from paypal with your old address. end of story. you may have emailed her thereafter, but as a seller, she's obligated to go by the contractual email which is where your payment came from in paypal. any subsequent emails may be ignored, which obviously was the case. when someone sees an email YOU HAVE RECEIVED PAYMENT... they are inclined to read that email and that email only, and they shouldn't have to read other emails to get the correct information that should have been provided in the original email.