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Lifer
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simple question: if a turbo is PROPERLY mounted to a car (say an Integra), with an intercooler or all, will it severely affect the lifespan of the car? assume the driver knows how to drive it properly and maintains it well
 
NutBucket

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Installed and maintained properly there should be no reason that the engine doesn't last as long.
 
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I would think most stock engines could take a low boost application pretty easy. But once you get into double digits and higher, it's pretty much gonna have to come from the factory with lower comp and slightly higher strength parts, unless you want to dig into the motor. At least that's the impression I'm under.
 
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BatmanNate

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With a car like an Integra that was not designed with forced induction in mind, turbocharging will reduce the lifespan of the engine internals and drivetrain components, unless the vehicle is properly overhauled which is not a very cost effective way to get a faster car.
 
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Originally posted by: RedRooster
I would think most stock engines could take a low boost application pretty easy. But once you get into double digits and higher, it's pretty much gonna have to come from the factory with lower comp and slightly higher strength parts, unless you want to dig into the motor. At least that's the impression I'm under.
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that's what i was thinking too... turbo may put a lot of pressure on some parts... i may be wrong though... do not take my word on it.
 
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Eli

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Er, well....

Of course it is going to reduce the life of your engine.

The more power a given engine makes, the more wear.
 
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The problem is the turbo generates the Sinusoial Wave Effect on the intake. Most factory boosted engines come with Anti-Fundamental Dampeners to deal with the extra vibration pulses of the turbo. Since your car probably wasnt engineered to withstand these pulses it may have a negative impact on your piston velocitic cyclical time.
 
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
The problem is the turbo generates the Sinusoial Wave Effect on the intake. Most factory boosted engines come with Anti-Fundamental Dampeners to deal with the extra vibration pulses of the turbo. Since your car probably wasnt engineered to withstand these pulses it may have a negative impact on your piston velocitic cyclical time.
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ahh, and don't forget you'll need platinum muffler bearings, and will need synthetic blinker fluid otherwise the fluxcylinders will overheat.
 
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"PROPERLY" is the key word, including properly done tuning. Still the more power an engine generates above its original intended design, the less reliable it is likely to be.
 
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
The problem is the turbo generates the Sinusoial Wave Effect on the intake. Most factory boosted engines come with Anti-Fundamental Dampeners to deal with the extra vibration pulses of the turbo. Since your car probably wasnt engineered to withstand these pulses it may have a negative impact on your piston velocitic cyclical time.
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Was that real, or did you make those words up?
 
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Originally posted by: LordSegan
Originally posted by: Shockwave
The problem is the turbo generates the Sinusoial Wave Effect on the intake. Most factory boosted engines come with Anti-Fundamental Dampeners to deal with the extra vibration pulses of the turbo. Since your car probably wasnt engineered to withstand these pulses it may have a negative impact on your piston velocitic cyclical time.
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Was that real, or did you make those words up?
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Oh no, its real........ ;)
 
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Originally posted by: NutBucket
What turbo kit are you looking into?
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acutally, its already installed in my friends Integra that i am considering buying. i dont know all the details yet

btw, blow off valve, intercooler, and turbo timer all included :p
 
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thedarkwolf

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The true purpose of the turbo timer is the "Look at me I am cool cause I have a turbo timer" feature. Other then that you don't need one unless you plan the beat the hell out of the car and the immediately park all the time or don't have a water cooled turbo. My turbo gets plenty of time to cool down while idling around before parking 95% of the time.
 
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Kalvin00

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
The problem is the turbo generates the Sinusoial Wave Effect on the intake. Most factory boosted engines come with Anti-Fundamental Dampeners to deal with the extra vibration pulses of the turbo. Since your car probably wasnt engineered to withstand these pulses it may have a negative impact on your piston velocitic cyclical time.
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My brain hurts.
 
vshah

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: LordSegan
Originally posted by: Shockwave
The problem is the turbo generates the Sinusoial Wave Effect on the intake. Most factory boosted engines come with Anti-Fundamental Dampeners to deal with the extra vibration pulses of the turbo. Since your car probably wasnt engineered to withstand these pulses it may have a negative impact on your piston velocitic cyclical time.
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Was that real, or did you make those words up?
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Oh no, its real........ ;)
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shockwave has been to the future
 
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Heisenberg

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Motors with factory forced induction almost always are different internally from NA ones. For example, my GTP has a supercharged 3800 Series II V6, but it has different heads and stronger internals than the NA standard Series II's. Slapping a turbo or supercharger on a motor not designed from the start with it in mind will cause more wear and tear.
 
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Pacfanweb

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To answer the original question, YES, installing a turbo on a factory non-turbo car will most certainly reduce the lifespan of the engine, and likely the transmission also.
How much is anyone's guess. Depends on how radical you get with the boost, and what shape your current engine is in when you install the kit.

Oh, and to all you guys trying to be funny like the dudes did to that guy on the 3000gt forum, it helps if you know what you're talking about to start with. ;)
 
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it all depens on a few factors...
1 boost... i hear integra thrown out there... i am assuming it isnt gsr or type r... this is good it has a lower compression ratio wich wards off detonation... witht he lower c/r you are safer with boost... if you want the engine to last... no more than 5-7psi on stock internals...
2 tuning you will need to get this engine tuned on a dyno with an experienced tuner(they arent all just guys with cofee can mufflers) luckily you own a honda and there are lots of tuned ecu upgrades and other options available for a boosted engine...
3 money i reccomend stand alone engine management... this is expensive... i aslo reccomend building the engine a little(if you plan on more power)

the turbo timer isnt all that neccesary just dont go racing then kill it(and if it dies start it right back up!) and a bov(blow off valve) is required for all turbo models...when you let off the throttle(to say shift gears) the throttle plate closes and the turbo is still boosting... this will blow your intake piping apart... so a one way valve(also known as a compressor bypass valve) is put in place... when the intake pipe reaches a certain pressure it bleeds it off(making the cool psshhh sound on most models)

to learn the basics of forced induction clickhere

ps im drunk now... otherwise i would go more in depth...
 
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