YACT: Stopped by border patrol in northern NY

jlarsson

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So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...
 

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Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.
 

DanFungus

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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.

but that's also pretty suspicious

 

zippy

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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.
If he has nothing to hide, why not just get it over with? Avoid any potential future head aches.

 

jlarsson

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Yeah, I know I didn't have to. I was just cooperating fully with him. I had nothing to hide, so ...
 

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Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.
If he has nothing to hide, why not just get it over with? Avoid any potential future head aches.

with no probable cause, he has no right to search.
 
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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.
If he has nothing to hide, why not just get it over with? Avoid any potential future head aches.

with no probable cause, he has no right to search.

with no weed in his trunk, he doesn't give a rat's ass whether or not the guy can or can't legally look.

He just wants to get on his way again.

- M4H
 

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Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.
If he has nothing to hide, why not just get it over with? Avoid any potential future head aches.

True. Cooperation is key. If you act suspicious in any way and refuse to open your trunk, they'll just hold you long enough to get a search warrant to properly look in the trunk. This would be a major waste of time just because "so" was said to the cop the first time he/she wanted to look into the trunk.
 

jlarsson

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Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.
If he has nothing to hide, why not just get it over with? Avoid any potential future head aches.

True. Cooperation is key. If you act suspicious in any way and refuse to open your trunk, they'll just hold you long enough to get a search warrant to properly look in the trunk. This would be a major waste of time just because "so" was said to the cop the first time he/she wanted to look into the trunk.


Exactly ...
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Yeah, border patrol types get cranky.

BTW, hello NH type person.

Lived in Hanover for a number of years. Loved it there.
 

jlarsson

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Yeah, border patrol types get cranky.

BTW, hello NH type person.

Lived in Hanover for a number of years. Loved it there.

Really, I live in West Lebanon, about a mile from the Hanover border!
 

MacGaven

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What's the big deal?

Everyone knows college kids smoke pot and transport illegal drugs across borders.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: jlarsson
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.
If he has nothing to hide, why not just get it over with? Avoid any potential future head aches.

True. Cooperation is key. If you act suspicious in any way and refuse to open your trunk, they'll just hold you long enough to get a search warrant to properly look in the trunk. This would be a major waste of time just because "so" was said to the cop the first time he/she wanted to look into the trunk.


Exactly ...


I decided to play tough guy one time when I got pulled over...I was driving through a bad part of town and got pulled over...they wanted to look in my trunk and I said no even though I had nothing...well they proceeded to put me in handcuffs "for my protection", and had me sit in the back of their cop car until they could get a k9 unit there...which took a half hour...then they had the dog walk all around my car, and had him get in it and sniff around...getting dog hair all over the place...of course they found nothing but it made a 5 minute thing into a 2 hour ordeal...bad choice

 

Hayabusa Rider

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Bwhaha!!!

I lived right on rt 10 above the Wilder dam. Had the greatest bicycling EVAR. Used to ride the river road then went up RT 10 to Orford to Fairlee VT, then back on Rt 5. Rode all over.

BTW, before moving to Hanover, I lived in West Leb too. Rented an apt on Church st.

Small world!
 

jlarsson

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Bwhaha!!!

I lived right on rt 10 above the Wilder dam. Had the greatest bicycling EVAR. Used to ride the river road then went up RT 10 to Orford to Fairlee VT, then back on Rt 5. Rode all over.

BTW, before moving to Hanover, I lived in West Leb too. Rented an apt on Church st.

Small world!

I live on Rt 10, past the Wilder dam, but before Sachem field.

Yeah, its a small world.
 

Phuz

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True. Cooperation is key. If you act suspicious in any way and refuse to open your trunk, they'll just hold you long enough to get a search warrant to properly look in the trunk. This would be a major waste of time just because "so" was said to the cop the first time he/she wanted to look into the trunk.

Yes, its nice to get on your way with little hassle, but they can not/will not be able to provide a warrent for a road side stop.
Especially with no probable cause, no intent, etc.
Sometimes you just have to stand up for yourself, even if you have nothing to hide.

"May we come in, mam'?" (eeeeeeevil!)
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.
If he has nothing to hide, why not just get it over with? Avoid any potential future head aches.

with no probable cause, he has no right to search.

are you mental? he had probable cause.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jlarsson
So, I take off from school on Friday afternoon, travelling to Boston with a friend to see a Red Sox game, and visit some girls. Anyway, I'm driving in northern NY, when a Border Patrol car passes me going in the opposite direction. Not a state trooper, not local police, but the Border Patrol. After he passes me, I look in my rear view mirror, and see that he's turning around. He catches up to me, and tails me for about 2-3 miles. I wasn't speeding, so I'm wondering why he decided to tail me. So after awhile, he finally hits his lights and pulls me over.

The officer comes out, and asks "how you guys doing today?", and immediately after finishing the question, he then asks "do you have any marijuana on you?". Of course I replied "No". He then proceeded to ask a bunch of questions, about where we were going, where we were coming from, our majors in college, etc. He then asks to check the trunk. I had nothing in there, so i popped the trunk, to which he exclaimed "It's Clean!". He then goes back to his car with our liscenses.

He comes back a few minutes later, and explains the situation. Apparently, a couple of people are smuggling marijuana out of an indian reservation in northern NY, and the people doing it have out of state plates (I'm from NH). So, he saw two young guys, driving a car with out of state plates, and just decided to pull us over.

Sorry for the length, I just find it weird...

you don't have to show him your trunk.
If he has nothing to hide, why not just get it over with? Avoid any potential future head aches.

with no probable cause, he has no right to search.

are you mental? he had probable cause.

No he did not.