YACT: So I think I'm gonna buy this turbo wagon =)

Red

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Hey guys, I went and checked out some cars today. The one that really stuck out was the '94 Volvo 850 Turbo Wagon. Needless to say, it was FAST. I know a lot of you are certainly used to faster cars, but when I got back in my Civic to drive home, my boner went away. =)

Anyway... there are a few things that concern me about it, and I will surely use that to negotiate the price, but here you go:

(1) After a few spirited runs, I turned the car off and checked the oil dipstick. The oil looked fine, but when I pulled it out, there was a little steam or smoke coming out of the dipstick hole. When I questioned the owner/salesman he said that because its a turboed engine, and because I probably just made a few "spirited" run, the engine operates at a higher temperature and pressure so the steam/smoke is normal. I asked my mechanic friend about it and he said its normal. I've never seen it before though. Your thoughts?

(2) The left rear power window would not go down (the switch wouldnt work Im assuming). Owner/salesman said he would see what he can do about it.

(3) The car comes with new tires, so I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but when I would turn the wheel all the way to the left or right, the tires were rubbing the fender. Just barely, but enough to make some rubber strips stay on the fender.

(4) He said he could sell me a 3-year, 54,000 mile warranty with a $100 deductible that covers: powertrain/drivetrain, steering components, brake components, power window motors, seat motors, etc. for $900... national coverage as well. Good deal?

If he is able to fix the window, figure out what is wrong with tires, and if its true that the dipstick hole steaming is no problem, I think I'll offer him $7,500 for the car and the 3-year warranty. (He has the car listed at $7799 w/ a 3 month warranty).

 

tnitsuj

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I bet that warranty won't cover diagnostics etc. It also won't cover expensive electrical problems that may pop up in that car such as the power windows.

Once again, keep your CIVIC!!
 

RagingBITCH

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For god's sake, buy a fvcking car and stop with your incessant 8 "What car should I buy/I can't sell my Civic" threads a day
 

tnitsuj

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Oh, and you probably have the wrong size tires on that car. They shouldn't rub ever.
 

Zenmervolt

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More details on the warranty are needed. Get the complete text. It might be worth it.

ZV
 

tnitsuj

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I predict in a few months a "Holy Smoke, it is going to cost me $1000 to rebuild the turbo on my 94 850" thread or similar.
 

Nebor

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I'd say the warranty isn't worth it. I've owned quite a few Volvos, and all the problems always happen within about 6 months of driving it new off the lot. They're fairly reliable once you work those initial kinks out.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: Nebor
I'd say the warranty isn't worth it. I've owned quite a few Volvos, and all the problems always happen within about 6 months of driving it new off the lot. They're fairly reliable once you work those initial kinks out.

I don't care what the brand is. A 10 year old car is going to have some stuff going out on it.
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: Nebor
I'd say the warranty isn't worth it. I've owned quite a few Volvos, and all the problems always happen within about 6 months of driving it new off the lot. They're fairly reliable once you work those initial kinks out.

I don't care what the brand is. A 10 year old car is going to have some stuff going out on it.

My father has a 91 740 Turbo, sweet car..but he spends around 2k per year on fixing random stuff.
 

Titan

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my dad got an 87 740 trubo and it turned out the 87 turbo had bad engines, and it threw a rod-arm or soemthing, the engine made this god-awful knocking noise. The newer turbos may be better though.

bottom line: ask these guys. ATers don't know a Volvo from a box with wheels.
 

NutBucket

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Pre '88 or '89 did have weaker bottom ends then later blocks. Though, they're just as reliable as later ones when run at factory boost.
 

DivideBYZero

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Those motors are the old Audi Quattro 5 cylinder lumps. I had a V70 T5 for a while and it was hella quick, until the oil ran dry.....the oil sender was fooked.
 

radioouman

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Looks like a good review to me! The dealer is working on the "steaming" dipstick hole problem, the tires rubbing on the fender problem, and replacing the power window motor.

So did you actually buy this one? sell your civic?


LOL at a steaming dipstick hole!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tires rubbing is a legitimate problem, and so is the power window situation. I'd be willing to bet that the window problem is either a bad switch or water is leaking down in the door around the window and the contacts are all corroded on the electrical connector. For that reason, you should probably open the door make sure that the bottom of the door isn't rusted out.
No door is totally waterproof. They all have drains that allow the water to run out (at least on newer cars). But you should probably check.

Just to let you know, I had a friend that bought an 88 Volvo sedan (not turbo) for $300. It amazes me that a car that is only 6 years newer is selling for $8000....
 

geno

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Steam shouldn't come out of the dipstick tube, not a significant amount at least. I still think the 240SX is a better choice man...
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: radioouman
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Looks like a good review to me! The dealer is working on the "steaming" dipstick hole problem, the tires rubbing on the fender problem, and replacing the power window motor.

So did you actually buy this one? sell your civic?


LOL at a steaming dipstick hole!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tires rubbing is a legitimate problem, and so is the power window situation. I'd be willing to bet that the window problem is either a bad switch or water is leaking down in the door around the window and the contacts are all corroded on the electrical connector. For that reason, you should probably open the door make sure that the bottom of the door isn't rusted out.
No door is totally waterproof. They all have drains that allow the water to run out (at least on newer cars). But you should probably check.

Just to let you know, I had a friend that bought an 88 Volvo sedan (not turbo) for $300. It amazes me that a car that is only 6 years newer is selling for $8000....

It all depends. One friend of mine just picked up a 90 240 sedan (non turbo) for $1500. Another had a '85 760 turbo wagon he paid 2k for (totalled) and bought a '91 760 turbo wagon to replace it ($4k). One thing is for sure, there are some deals to be had on Volvos.
 

zixxer

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Originally posted by: radioouman
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Looks like a good review to me! The dealer is working on the "steaming" dipstick hole problem, the tires rubbing on the fender problem, and replacing the power window motor.

So did you actually buy this one? sell your civic?


LOL at a steaming dipstick hole!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tires rubbing is a legitimate problem, and so is the power window situation. I'd be willing to bet that the window problem is either a bad switch or water is leaking down in the door around the window and the contacts are all corroded on the electrical connector. For that reason, you should probably open the door make sure that the bottom of the door isn't rusted out.
No door is totally waterproof. They all have drains that allow the water to run out (at least on newer cars). But you should probably check.

Just to let you know, I had a friend that bought an 88 Volvo sedan (not turbo) for $300. It amazes me that a car that is only 6 years newer is selling for $8000....

My boss has a 95 850 turbo sedan. Apparently discount tire has the incorrect tire size for the turbo's. Whatever it was, rubbed. He had the correct size put on and it's fine now
 

thrashev

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my 92 volvo 960 with 184k miles is running as perfect as can be only little problems associated with older cars, like weather stripping needs replaced on driver window, leather worn, etc no biggie though, love my car it's nice and peppy