YACT: Question about an RSX mod

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: mrCide

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: notfred
Typical ricer mod - make the car perform worse.

Dude, my friend has an '03 BMW M3 and just sold his 01 Boxster S to his brother. He loves his RSX and enjoys tinkering with it. What's wrong with that?

nothing, notfred just thinks he's superior to everyone else when it has to do with cars. ignore him. why'd your friend sell his boxster S ? I'm looking at getting a '00 2.7 or S if i can find one priced well--in a couple months (can't afford an m3).

He sold it to his brother. He just got married and it had some parking lot damage so I guess he was tired of it and wanted something new for his wife.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: johneetrash
since when is +12whp rice?

not that i like the rsx-s

I never did like the VTEC style torque curves. Ones like this are more my style.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Yield
rev limiter at neutral, a bunch of cars have these... why the hell would you want it to go above 5500 RPM in neutral?
even if you are trying to lauch, 5500 RPM is just a LITTLE more than enough...

I don't know why he tries to rev up that in neutral high either. But he says it never did it before he had the shop make the mod. I don't think it is a limiter problem. When I had a Prelude SH, I don't remember a rev limiter in my car either.

I am not sure why a CAI would do that... but it'll likely save his engine if he wants to go above 5500 RPM.... hahaha
seriously though... about the ricer crap... 12 horse at the wheels is nothing to laugh about from a simple hour long install of just a bolt on mod. That's freaking sweet indeed.

but you never really get 12hp from just a cone air filter. Also how is it still considered a COLD air intake if it's sucking from behind the radiator & above the engine as most CAI's do? Shouldn't a COLD air intake suck from somewhere COLD?

why would you assume a cold air itnake is sucking from somewhere hot?
my cold air intake sits right by the road under my left front foglight.. if that's not cold air i don't know what is..

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: johneetrash
since when is +12whp rice?

not that i like the rsx-s

I never did like the VTEC style torque curves. Ones like this are more my style.

Those are great for towing, but not nearly as fun as that 6000rpm screm when you're carving the back roads....

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Yield
rev limiter at neutral, a bunch of cars have these... why the hell would you want it to go above 5500 RPM in neutral?
even if you are trying to lauch, 5500 RPM is just a LITTLE more than enough...

I don't know why he tries to rev up that in neutral high either. But he says it never did it before he had the shop make the mod. I don't think it is a limiter problem. When I had a Prelude SH, I don't remember a rev limiter in my car either.

I am not sure why a CAI would do that... but it'll likely save his engine if he wants to go above 5500 RPM.... hahaha
seriously though... about the ricer crap... 12 horse at the wheels is nothing to laugh about from a simple hour long install of just a bolt on mod. That's freaking sweet indeed.

but you never really get 12hp from just a cone air filter. Also how is it still considered a COLD air intake if it's sucking from behind the radiator & above the engine as most CAI's do? Shouldn't a COLD air intake suck from somewhere COLD?

why would you assume a cold air itnake is sucking from somewhere hot?
my cold air intake sits right by the road under my left front foglight.. if that's not cold air i don't know what is..

In this particular case I really know nothing about the system as I haven't even seen it....but I just know there are a lot of CAI's that are nothing more than a cone filter that attaches to throttle body.

 

[loosliptcomptrola]

Check the Mass Air Flow Sensor

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Yield
rev limiter at neutral, a bunch of cars have these... why the hell would you want it to go above 5500 RPM in neutral?
even if you are trying to lauch, 5500 RPM is just a LITTLE more than enough...

I don't know why he tries to rev up that in neutral high either. But he says it never did it before he had the shop make the mod. I don't think it is a limiter problem. When I had a Prelude SH, I don't remember a rev limiter in my car either.

I am not sure why a CAI would do that... but it'll likely save his engine if he wants to go above 5500 RPM.... hahaha
seriously though... about the ricer crap... 12 horse at the wheels is nothing to laugh about from a simple hour long install of just a bolt on mod. That's freaking sweet indeed.

but you never really get 12hp from just a cone air filter. Also how is it still considered a COLD air intake if it's sucking from behind the radiator & above the engine as most CAI's do? Shouldn't a COLD air intake suck from somewhere COLD?

why would you assume a cold air itnake is sucking from somewhere hot?
my cold air intake sits right by the road under my left front foglight.. if that's not cold air i don't know what is..

In this particular case I really know nothing about the system as I haven't even seen it....but I just know there are a lot of CAI's that are nothing more than a cone filter that attaches to throttle body.

then that's just that., a cone filter.
a cold air intake sits in a spot where it can take in cold air... if it doesn't, then it's not a cold air intake

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: johneetrash
since when is +12whp rice?

not that i like the rsx-s

I never did like the VTEC style torque curves. Ones like this are more my style.

Those are great for towing, but not nearly as fun as that 6000rpm screm when you're carving the back roads....

I dunno, although that's not my dyno chart, I do fine on backroads when I get put it in 3rd and watch the tach just swing from 2000-4000 RPM (35-70MPH) with ease. Downshifting may be fun every now and then, but it gets awfully repetitive when you have to do it every corner for 30 miles. (with about 10 curves/mile) And w/ a nice wide curve, you're not hunting for the right gear to keep it from going into the weak 70% of the power band.

 

[CraigRT]

I always like driving stick.... there is no time when I hate it.. even when I have to shift alot

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: Yield
I always like driving stick.... there is no time when I hate it.. even when I have to shift alot

Not that I would ever own an automatic, but a stick can get annoying in stopped traffic....although it does relieve some tension to just sit & rev it a little while you wait to start moving again.

What I will never get over though is when you're driving an automatic & you want to go just a little quicker, so you just give it a little more gas & then all of a sudden it drops a gear & slams you forward, so you let off the gas & then it upshifts and the cycle continues...UGH!

Downshifting may be fun every now and then, but it gets awfully repetitive when you have to do it every corner for 30 miles. (with about 10 curves/mile) And w/ a nice wide curve, you're not hunting for the right gear to keep it from going into the weak 70% of the power band.

I love roads like that!

 

[geno]

Make sure he didn't disconnect and vacuum lines when installing the CAI.

 

[johneetrash]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: johneetrash
since when is +12whp rice?

not that i like the rsx-s

I never did like the VTEC style torque curves. Ones like this are more my style.

i dont either this is much more fun

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Umm.. isn't revving that high in neutral a bad thing? Maybe the computer limits it?

I don't think the RSX has a rev limiter... i don't know if they do now but they didn't when it first came out because lots of idiot people with the Type-S missing shifts blow their engine but Honda wouldn't cover botched shifts... Toyota does on their GT-S but still... no reason to fark up a shift.

 

[johneetrash]

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Umm.. isn't revving that high in neutral a bad thing? Maybe the computer limits it?

I don't think the RSX has a rev limiter... i don't know if they do now but they didn't when it first came out because lots of idiot people with the Type-S missing shifts blow their engine but Honda wouldn't cover botched shifts... Toyota does on their GT-S but still... no reason to fark up a shift.

all cars have rev limiters....

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Umm.. isn't revving that high in neutral a bad thing? Maybe the computer limits it?

I don't think the RSX has a rev limiter... i don't know if they do now but they didn't when it first came out because lots of idiot people with the Type-S missing shifts blow their engine but Honda wouldn't cover botched shifts... Toyota does on their GT-S but still... no reason to fark up a shift.

Anyone can miss a shift...I've seen it even happen in NASCAR (and I'm sure it happened in F1 before the sequential gearboxes).

 

[GroundZero]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred
Typical ricer mod - make the car perform worse.

The "ricer" bashing is getting a little old. Seriously.

Why don't you just let people do what they want with their cars? What is "rice" about a cold air intake system?

Anyway, regarding the question.. The obvious answer is to check and double check the intallation. You already know where the problem is, you just have to fix it.

it will never get old untill all the fools and idiots realize that they are just being stupid...
it is akin to tards that wear their pants down their asses to show everyone how cool they are and the fact that they don't change their underware... pointless dressing on a rediculous product, with no astetic or functional purpose.

case in point:
a honda will never need a wing. for one thing it will not ever go fast enough to warrant the extra downforce that these are designed to do
no matter how much "faster" the idiot driving thinks it has made his car.
equate this to the jackass who just robbed the local 7-11 for 23 bucks and change. who now because he wasn't smart enough to realise that pants around his ankles will not make him faster is face down on the pavement with johnie law cuffing and stuffing him.

ricing a car is pointless. although humorous at times, as is wearing pants down your ass, pointless, but humorous at times.
just remember that if we can see your ricer or your ass, then we are most likely laughing AT you, and not with you.

drive american to go out for japanese

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred
Typical ricer mod - make the car perform worse.

The "ricer" bashing is getting a little old. Seriously.

Why don't you just let people do what they want with their cars? What is "rice" about a cold air intake system?

Anyway, regarding the question.. The obvious answer is to check and double check the intallation. You already know where the problem is, you just have to fix it.

it will never get old untill all the fools and idiots realize that they are just being stupid...
it is akin to tards that wear their pants down their asses to show everyone how cool they are and the fact that they don't change their underware... pointless dressing on a rediculous product, with no astetic or functional purpose.

case in point:
a honda will never need a wing. for one thing it will not ever go fast enough to warrant the extra downforce that these are designed to do
no matter how much "faster" the idiot driving thinks it has made his car.
equate this to the jackass who just robbed the local 7-11 for 23 bucks and change. who now because he wasn't smart enough to realise that pants around his ankles will not make him faster is face down on the pavement with johnie law cuffing and stuffing him.

ricing a car is pointless. although humorous at times, as is wearing pants down your ass, pointless, but humorous at times.
just remember that if we can see your ricer or your ass, then we are most likely laughing AT you, and not with you.

drive american to go out for japanese

You, my friend, are an idiot.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred
Typical ricer mod - make the car perform worse.

The "ricer" bashing is getting a little old. Seriously.

Why don't you just let people do what they want with their cars? What is "rice" about a cold air intake system?

Anyway, regarding the question.. The obvious answer is to check and double check the intallation. You already know where the problem is, you just have to fix it.

it will never get old untill all the fools and idiots realize that they are just being stupid...
it is akin to tards that wear their pants down their asses to show everyone how cool they are and the fact that they don't change their underware... pointless dressing on a rediculous product, with no astetic or functional purpose.

case in point:
a honda will never need a wing. for one thing it will not ever go fast enough to warrant the extra downforce that these are designed to do
no matter how much "faster" the idiot driving thinks it has made his car.
equate this to the jackass who just robbed the local 7-11 for 23 bucks and change. who now because he wasn't smart enough to realise that pants around his ankles will not make him faster is face down on the pavement with johnie law cuffing and stuffing him.

ricing a car is pointless. although humorous at times, as is wearing pants down your ass, pointless, but humorous at times.
just remember that if we can see your ricer or your ass, then we are most likely laughing AT you, and not with you.

drive american to go out for japanese

You, my friend, are an idiot.

hahah.. i'll say!

 

[GroundZero]

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred
Typical ricer mod - make the car perform worse.

The "ricer" bashing is getting a little old. Seriously.

Why don't you just let people do what they want with their cars? What is "rice" about a cold air intake system?

Anyway, regarding the question.. The obvious answer is to check and double check the intallation. You already know where the problem is, you just have to fix it.

it will never get old untill all the fools and idiots realize that they are just being stupid...
it is akin to tards that wear their pants down their asses to show everyone how cool they are and the fact that they don't change their underware... pointless dressing on a rediculous product, with no astetic or functional purpose.

case in point:
a honda will never need a wing. for one thing it will not ever go fast enough to warrant the extra downforce that these are designed to do
no matter how much "faster" the idiot driving thinks it has made his car.
equate this to the jackass who just robbed the local 7-11 for 23 bucks and change. who now because he wasn't smart enough to realise that pants around his ankles will not make him faster is face down on the pavement with johnie law cuffing and stuffing him.

ricing a car is pointless. although humorous at times, as is wearing pants down your ass, pointless, but humorous at times.
just remember that if we can see your ricer or your ass, then we are most likely laughing AT you, and not with you.

drive american to go out for japanese

You, my friend, are an idiot.

hahah.. i'll say!

but the mods on my chev worked...didn't make it look rediculous and were not over priced...
i'll put my 400 horses of american hp against a ricer any day of the week.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: Yield

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: GroundZero

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred
Typical ricer mod - make the car perform worse.

The "ricer" bashing is getting a little old. Seriously.

Why don't you just let people do what they want with their cars? What is "rice" about a cold air intake system?

Anyway, regarding the question.. The obvious answer is to check and double check the intallation. You already know where the problem is, you just have to fix it.

it will never get old untill all the fools and idiots realize that they are just being stupid...
it is akin to tards that wear their pants down their asses to show everyone how cool they are and the fact that they don't change their underware... pointless dressing on a rediculous product, with no astetic or functional purpose.

case in point:
a honda will never need a wing. for one thing it will not ever go fast enough to warrant the extra downforce that these are designed to do
no matter how much "faster" the idiot driving thinks it has made his car.
equate this to the jackass who just robbed the local 7-11 for 23 bucks and change. who now because he wasn't smart enough to realise that pants around his ankles will not make him faster is face down on the pavement with johnie law cuffing and stuffing him.

ricing a car is pointless. although humorous at times, as is wearing pants down your ass, pointless, but humorous at times.
just remember that if we can see your ricer or your ass, then we are most likely laughing AT you, and not with you.

drive american to go out for japanese

You, my friend, are an idiot.

hahah.. i'll say!

but the mods on my chev worked...didn't make it look rediculous and were not over priced...
i'll put my 400 horses of american hp against a ricer any day of the week.

So let me get this straight... You're comparing car styling to clothes styling?

WTF?

You can have your 400HP American paperweight. And that's just what it will be in 150,000 miles; a paperweight.

Again.. Why don't you just let people do what they want to their cars? In the sea of all-the-same cars, how can you blame people for wanting to make their cars unique?

It's not like they turn them into Pontiac Aztecs or anything.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Umm.. isn't revving that high in neutral a bad thing? Maybe the computer limits it?

I don't think the RSX has a rev limiter... i don't know if they do now but they didn't when it first came out because lots of idiot people with the Type-S missing shifts blow their engine but Honda wouldn't cover botched shifts... Toyota does on their GT-S but still... no reason to fark up a shift.

Anyone can miss a shift...I've seen it even happen in NASCAR (and I'm sure it happened in F1 before the sequential gearboxes).

True... but when the RSX came out... the forums were full of guys complaining about Honda would not cover their blown engines... ...would just think that if you were going to redline every gear or downshift for some reason... you better make sure you hit the right gear. I've seen it in Nascar too... and those are pros...

 

[KingNothing]

I've been told that some cars have electronically operated shift gates that prevent you from downshifting into a gear if it'll cause your engine to go past redline. Is this true?

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
I've been told that some cars have electronically operated shift gates that prevent you from downshifting into a gear if it'll cause your engine to go past redline. Is this true?

When I was over at the shop today there was a brand-new 996TT which was getting a new engine put in it. Supposedly it threw a rod with about 150 miles on the engine. They're doing a full-warranty replacement though.

Anyways, when I was talking with the mechanic about it he said that he doesn't think it was due to driver error (I thought maybe he had missed a shift...how else do you blow a 150 mile engine so quick), but he said that there is both a rev-limiter (as in most cars) and downshift lockout (as you suggested) on the car, so no real way to put it past redline. Incidentally he also said that unless you're giving it a lot of gas it won't let you into certain gears...it wants you to do 1,3,5,6 or something odd like that.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: KingNothing
I've been told that some cars have electronically operated shift gates that prevent you from downshifting into a gear if it'll cause your engine to go past redline. Is this true?

When I was over at the shop today there was a brand-new 996TT which was getting a new engine put in it. Supposedly it threw a rod with about 150 miles on the engine. They're doing a full-warranty replacement though.

Anyways, when I was talking with the mechanic about it he said that he doesn't think it was due to driver error (I thought maybe he had missed a shift...how else do you blow a 150 mile engine so quick), but he said that there is both a rev-limiter (as in most cars) and downshift lockout (as you suggested) on the car, so no real way to put it past redline. Incidentally he also said that unless you're giving it a lot of gas it won't let you into certain gears...it wants you to do 1,3,5,6 or something odd like that.

I guess this must be somewhat expensive to put on a car, otherwise why wouldn't it be on any car with a manual?

 

[Scootin159]

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: Scootin159

Originally posted by: boyRacer

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Umm.. isn't revving that high in neutral a bad thing? Maybe the computer limits it?

I don't think the RSX has a rev limiter... i don't know if they do now but they didn't when it first came out because lots of idiot people with the Type-S missing shifts blow their engine but Honda wouldn't cover botched shifts... Toyota does on their GT-S but still... no reason to fark up a shift.

Anyone can miss a shift...I've seen it even happen in NASCAR (and I'm sure it happened in F1 before the sequential gearboxes).

True... but when the RSX came out... the forums were full of guys complaining about Honda would not cover their blown engines... ...would just think that if you were going to redline every gear or downshift for some reason... you better make sure you hit the right gear. I've seen it in Nascar too... and those are pros...

Yeah, I've kinda learned to always let the clutch out a little before you fully let it out if you aren't sure of the gear you're in. It's what happens when the first stick shift you have has a messed up linkage to the point you really can't tell the difference between 3rd & 5th.