YACT: POLL: Prelude SH or Integra GSR?

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Rent

The accord uses the F23 I believe. Its been a while since I read up on them. They did not get the H22a.

250 n/a? No. My friends base w/ the JRSC put 230 to the wheels I believe.

If you're serious about getting a 'Lude, make sure you take it on the highway on a testdrive and get it into 5th. See if it grinds and/or if it pops out of gear. Its a fairly common problem with that generation of Preludes that Honda will NOT acknowledge.

The Accord in my sig doesn't use a F series motor Well, there's one guy I know of with a wild built H22A. I think its 2.6 now that he's got the machine word done. He puts down almost 270 to the wheels and can smoke a Z06 Vette. Not bad for a family sedan with half as many cylinders

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: Rent

The accord uses the F23 I believe. Its been a while since I read up on them. They did not get the H22a.

250 n/a? No. My friends base w/ the JRSC put 230 to the wheels I believe.

If you're serious about getting a 'Lude, make sure you take it on the highway on a testdrive and get it into 5th. See if it grinds and/or if it pops out of gear. Its a fairly common problem with that generation of Preludes that Honda will NOT acknowledge.

The Accord in my sig doesn't use a F series motor Well, there's one guy I know of with a wild built H22A. I think its 2.6 now that he's got the machine work done. He puts down almost 270 to the wheels and can smoke a Z06 Vette. Not bad for a family sedan with half as many cylinders

I'd love to see a video of him launching the car. As much as the motor can kick ass, its still powering the wrong wheels.

I know about your accord. Like I said in your rice thread, I want timeslips

 

[bubbadu]

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: bubbadu
Both of my friends have 98 Type SH's, one white, one dark green... one was bought for 10K, the other 11K. Here in Vermont, you CAN'T find Preludes or GSR's. I got super lucky with my Integra, got it for 2 grand, and its a 95 with only 88K miles on it. Pic BOTH cars are SWEET, but I think a Prelude would be the way to go, unless you could get a GSR for a good price.

Nice car, Nice Price. In Florida, both cars are kinda common.

Did you drive the Preludes? What kind of Integra do you have? Is that the base model? Seems kinda cheap if it was a GSR. For $2k, thats a killer deal!

How did you like the Prelude compared to your car? Interior, performance wise, and such.

Opps sorry. Mine is a LS, definitly not a GSR My dad works at a dealership, and some old guy who took really good care of it traded it in. I came in the next day and bought it for what the dealership gave him in trade. Both of my friends have 98 Type SH's and they are both incrediable. The VTEC is sweet and the ATTS makes the handling super smooth. My car has 145 HP, theres 200. Interior is pretty much the same, its just tough to compare my 2K car to there 11K cars

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Rent
I know about your accord. Like I said in your rice thread, I want timeslips

Soon. Next month I plan to head out to the 'strip

 

[virtueixi]

I am a proffesional car theif. Don't worry about which car to get, I will steal either one as soon as you get it. Please PM your home address to make this transaction move as quickly as possible. Thanks.

 

[Actaeon]

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Thanks for the advice... is that the only difference between the two? Anything else? The base model is cheaper, which is good.

Sorry for being a little noobish, I know an LSD is a limited slip differential... but what does it do?

That's the main difference, besides some equipment differences I guess. LSD means that both wheels get power. In an open diff setup (90% of cars) if one wheel loses traction all the power goes to that wheel. Doesn't do much good if its just spinning. LSD will ensure power is delivered to both wheels, regardless of whether it has traction or not. And when you turn, it still allows the wheels to turn at different speeds.

Thanks :beer:

Your Accord has the same engine as the Prelude right? How is the aftermarket? Is it possible to get around 250-300hp Naturally Aspirated? Any perfered route for power? How are the available turbo setups? I really want to baby my first "good" car... I think Preludes are awesome, and I'll definately be modding it.

I guess If I am going the 4 banger route, I'll go with the Prelude unless anyone else can convince me otherwise. Going to go read more about Preludes .

The accord uses the F23 I believe. Its been a while since I read up on them. They did not get the H22a.

250 n/a? No. My friends base w/ the JRSC put 230 to the wheels I believe.

If you're serious about getting a 'Lude, make sure you take it on the highway on a testdrive and get it into 5th. See if it grinds and/or if it pops out of gear. Its a fairly common problem with that generation of Preludes that Honda will NOT acknowledge.

Thanks, the H22 I was referring to is in NutBuckets Accord (see his sig).

Though, I guess 250 to the wheels under N/A is a bit high.... 225 with bolt ons doesn't seem too far fetched though.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: Actaeon

Thanks for the advice... is that the only difference between the two? Anything else? The base model is cheaper, which is good.

Sorry for being a little noobish, I know an LSD is a limited slip differential... but what does it do?

That's the main difference, besides some equipment differences I guess. LSD means that both wheels get power. In an open diff setup (90% of cars) if one wheel loses traction all the power goes to that wheel. Doesn't do much good if its just spinning. LSD will ensure power is delivered to both wheels, regardless of whether it has traction or not. And when you turn, it still allows the wheels to turn at different speeds.

Thanks :beer:

Your Accord has the same engine as the Prelude right? How is the aftermarket? Is it possible to get around 250-300hp Naturally Aspirated? Any perfered route for power? How are the available turbo setups? I really want to baby my first "good" car... I think Preludes are awesome, and I'll definately be modding it.

I guess If I am going the 4 banger route, I'll go with the Prelude unless anyone else can convince me otherwise. Going to go read more about Preludes .

The accord uses the F23 I believe. Its been a while since I read up on them. They did not get the H22a.

250 n/a? No. My friends base w/ the JRSC put 230 to the wheels I believe.

If you're serious about getting a 'Lude, make sure you take it on the highway on a testdrive and get it into 5th. See if it grinds and/or if it pops out of gear. Its a fairly common problem with that generation of Preludes that Honda will NOT acknowledge.

Thanks, the H22 I was referring to is in NutBuckets Accord (see his sig).

Though, I guess 250 to the wheels under N/A is a bit high.... 225 with bolt ons doesn't seem too far fetched though.

That's still pushing it. http://www.importreview.com/d_2.2.html

 

[NutBucket]

I lied, its only 247 to the wheels
http://board.hondasociety.com/showthread.php?t=93589&highlight=dyno

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: NutBucket
I lied, its only 247 to the wheels
http://board.hondasociety.com/showthread.php?t=93589&highlight=dyno

Damn... can he do anything else to that car? Those cylinder walls are probably paper thin ;x

 

[JCase]

Get a 97 VW GTI vr6...Smoothest engine and best handling FWD car around (in stock form...throw on some coilovers and it gets even better )

 

[Flyermax2k3]

Bah! FWD is for ricers and grandmas. Get a real car like an AWD DSM and mod the crap out of it. AWD PWNS everything else on the street. This is undeniable fact. AWD vehicles have more traction on the street than any other vehicles, so they can launch much better than 2WD vehicles.
Get a DSM and have fun

 

[Ns1]

Well I have a Prelude and let me tell you, if you want to go fast....


get a different car.

Seriously, it's a great car if you do suspension work, exterior stuff (I think it looks haaaaawt), stuff like that...but after messing with the engine, there's so many better cars you could mod and get ALOT more out of it for the money spent.

If you're gonna mod the car alot ($5k++), get the GSR. If you're only gonna do light mods, get the Prelude. The interior is (in my opinion) leaps and bounds better, and it has more tq than the GSR for daily driving.

That being said, I want to sell my car for a 2.5RS hehe, too bad it's not gonna happen.

//edit//

I don't know what the problems are for the GSR, but here's a list of problems for the Prelude:

Synchro's are notoriously weak. Check out for 5th gear grinds.
Moonroof rattles like a mofo
Shock knock (I don't have this issue)

Hm..can't really think of anything else major right now, but the synchro's for the Prelude are definately the most common.

 

[bo0]

Prelude. I'm a bit bias, since i own one(not type SH though). My friend also happens to have a 98 GSR and i've driven it occasionally. IMO both cars are almost identical(driving wise). They both feel like a civic until you hit 5000+RPM on 2nd,3rd,and 4th gear. Dont get the type SH*t, you would be better off just sticking with the reglular 2 door coupe. Both have the same amount of HP(200, i think)...unless you want to spend an extra 2k for a 200lbs heavier car. So in conclusion, its pretty much...which car is more appealing to you(looks wise). h22 or gsr?

<---- got my 98 prelude for under 10k about a year ago

why so cheap? a friend was moving back to china and i talked him into selling it to me before he took a ad out in the newspaper. He was going to ask for 13k on the Ad. By the way, i live in San Diego and it seems that every other car is either a integra or a civic


Edit: After all this /me really tired of FWD.....dreaming of the day i can afford a G35 or STi

 

[Ns1]

h22 is like 190/195 or 195/200 or 185/190 or somethign liek that depending which year you get (99+ have 5 more hp)
b18c is 180hp

 

[Svnla]

My previous car was a Prelude. Still missed it. Take both for a spin and decide on which one you like. I think they both are similar with a few minor differences. The only thing about the Integra is that you can find upgrade parts much more easier than the Prelude.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Prelude is considered one of the best handling cars, and it's FWD (gasp). Also, it looks very nice.

 

[gsellis]

Don't forget the 97-00 ITR. There are some to be had around. Low mile 2000s can be pricy, but, it is an ITR. ITR = Integra Type-R for those wondering.

 

[Gyrene]

Mini Cooper S

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I thought for auto cross you'd want something rear wheel drive???

 

[Mr N8]

Get a Prelude, and keep it stock. For the love of all that is good, do not even look at aftermarket, unless it is engine only upgrades.

Oh, stickers only add 1-2HP, despite popular belief.

 

[CraigRT]

I really do prefer the looks of the Prelude.. infact, it's the only Honda I'd willingly ever own. I think they are nice.

 

[Dunbar]

I have a Prelude, my brother has a GS-R. I think overall the Prelude is better daily driver. It is more refined, torquier and rides better. I think Car and Driver said it best "The Prelude is the best Integra [Honda] ever made."

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: NutBucket
I lied, its only 247 to the wheels
http://board.hondasociety.com/showthread.php?t=93589&highlight=dyno

Damn... can he do anything else to that car? Those cylinder walls are probably paper thin ;x

The H22A stock bore is 87mm, I think.

 

[Cfour]

If I remember right, both have very high resale value for the miles/condition you get them in. Isn't there a better car for the money that you can get?

Tony

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: NutBucket
I lied, its only 247 to the wheels
http://board.hondasociety.com/showthread.php?t=93589&highlight=dyno

Damn... can he do anything else to that car? Those cylinder walls are probably paper thin ;x

The H22A stock bore is 87mm, I think.

Yeah, plus the first gen H22's (92-96) were all closed deck. So, there aren't nearly as many issues when overboring or boosting. And yes, stock bore on a 92-96 is 87mm. That goes up to 90.7 for the type-s engine (JDM only, 220hp).