YACT: Oil Filter

Goosemaster

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My POS burns oil, and I had to refill the engine again. I simply forgot about chanign the oil filter and wanted to know somethign about it:

Can you change it without having all of the oil come out?

Thanks
 

gw186

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Yes, generaly the oil sits in the oil pan which is lower then the filter.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: gw186
Yes, generaly the oil sits in the oil pan which is lower then the filter.

Sweet.

That said, I can;t beleive my car burned 3 qts of oil so fast...
 

cavemanmoron

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if your car is overdue for an oil and filter change;it will use the oile faster than
if the oil was fresh.

For about $25 a garage will change the oil,and filter.

If you keep using a lot of oil then you have another problem.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
if your car is overdue for an oil and filter change;it will use the oile faster than
if the oil was fresh.

For about $25 a garage will change the oil,and filter.

If you keep using a lot of oil then you have another problem.

Damaged piston ring;)

It's a POS anyway so I am literally driving it until it dies...still going strong:D
 

sao123

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If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: sao123
If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.

?

But then the car would be without oil....
 

Kalvin00

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: sao123
If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.

?

But then the car would be without oil....

What he's saying is that at the rate you're adding oil, in a couple months the oil that is in there now, will have been completely burned off.
 

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: sao123
If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.

?

But then the car would be without oil....

You'd still add oil...
 

Eli

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Yes, you can change the filter without all your engine oil draining out.

You will have to top off, though.. anywhere from less than a quart to a half a quart, depending on the size of your filter.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: sao123
If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.

?

But then the car would be without oil....
lol..

Change the filter every 3,000 miles, add oil every week as needed.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: sao123
If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.

?

But then the car would be without oil....
lol..

Change the filter every 3,000 miles, add oil every week as needed.

egatz..I haven't changed the oil filter in like 20k:(


*Runs off to the store*
 
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: sao123
If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.

?

But then the car would be without oil....
lol..

Change the filter every 3,000 miles, add oil every week as needed.

egatz..I haven't changed the oil filter in like 20k:(


*Runs off to the store*

akk...but i bet you've scanned your comp for malware in the last week, huh? ;)
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: sao123
If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.

?

But then the car would be without oil....
lol..

Change the filter every 3,000 miles, add oil every week as needed.

egatz..I haven't changed the oil filter in like 20k:(


*Runs off to the store*

akk...but i bet you've scanned your comp for malware in the last week, huh? ;)

No:Q
 

PlasticJesus

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That 3000 mile business is a bunch of crap. About every 5000 would be more like it.

My Nissan pickup gets it every 8000 to 11000. I usually change filter, change oil, and scan my computer for malware on the same day so I can keep track of it all.
 
Aug 26, 2004
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: sao123
If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.

?

But then the car would be without oil....
lol..

Change the filter every 3,000 miles, add oil every week as needed.

egatz..I haven't changed the oil filter in like 20k:(


*Runs off to the store*

akk...but i bet you've scanned your comp for malware in the last week, huh? ;)

No:Q

ok...you're really slacking now...better get on the ball mofo!
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: sao123
If your car burns oil that fast, I wouldnt bother changing the oil ever. Just get a new filter every 3000 miles.

?

But then the car would be without oil....
lol..

Change the filter every 3,000 miles, add oil every week as needed.

egatz..I haven't changed the oil filter in like 20k:(


*Runs off to the store*

Remind me to never buy a car from you.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: PlasticJesus
That 3000 mile business is a bunch of crap. About every 5000 would be more like it.

My Nissan pickup gets it every 8000 to 11000. I usually change filter, change oil, and scan my computer for malware on the same day so I can keep track of it all.

No, it's not a bunch of crap. My Nissan Maxima requires changing the oil every 3,750 miles per the manufacturer. I do it every 3,000 miles just to be on the safe side.
 

smithdj

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: PlasticJesus
That 3000 mile business is a bunch of crap. About every 5000 would be more like it.

My Nissan pickup gets it every 8000 to 11000. I usually change filter, change oil, and scan my computer for malware on the same day so I can keep track of it all.

No, it's not a bunch of crap. My Nissan Maxima requires changing the oil every 3,750 miles per the manufacturer. I do it every 3,000 miles just to be on the safe side.

Correct! Have you seen oil after even 3,000, That is the load of crap. The stuff is as black as tar.
 

Lvis

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You can use thicker oil to slow down the amount that burns. 20w 50 can make a big difference.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: smithdj
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: PlasticJesus
That 3000 mile business is a bunch of crap. About every 5000 would be more like it.

My Nissan pickup gets it every 8000 to 11000. I usually change filter, change oil, and scan my computer for malware on the same day so I can keep track of it all.

No, it's not a bunch of crap. My Nissan Maxima requires changing the oil every 3,750 miles per the manufacturer. I do it every 3,000 miles just to be on the safe side.

Correct! Have you seen oil after even 3,000, That is the load of crap. The stuff is as black as tar.


Color does not necessarily mean that the oil is no longer doing what is supposed to be doing. Without doing a test on it, you have no way of knowing.
 

PlasticJesus

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When I had a Maxima in '94 I used to change my oil every 3000 miles (just to be on the safe side).

3,000 and 3,750. Are those the same numbers? I don't think they are. One of them is about 750 more than the other.

I think I must be confused. Either that or I'm just missing out on something; me without my post- high school education and all.
 

sao123

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There are 2 reasons why it is recommended to change the oil filter every 3000 miles.
1: Oil collects dirt/unburnt fuel as your engine burns fuel. It also burns in your engine too. The filter filters out any solid particles which may collect in your oil, it also collects the sludge which collects from burning oil. These may eventually clog the filter and stop the flow of oil, which would cause the engine to malfunction.
2: Oil filters are made of special filtering paper. Over time, exposure to oil weakens the paper, and it may begin to tear and come out of the filter, thus putting more dirt & shredded filter in your engine.

Most conventional oil is safe to run for 6000 miles, provided you top it off occasionally, and change the filter every 3000 miles. Full Synthetic oil is rated such that it can be ran for 15000 miles, provided again you change the filter.
There are more expensive filters available which can filter properly for up to 7000 miles, they are not made of the same paper as conventional filters. They are denser, and have more filter layers in general.

Neither of the above practices should you follow if your vehicle is under warranty. Running oil/filter under any circumstances over 3000 miles voids your auto's warranty.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: PlasticJesus
That 3000 mile business is a bunch of crap. About every 5000 would be more like it.

My Nissan pickup gets it every 8000 to 11000. I usually change filter, change oil, and scan my computer for malware on the same day so I can keep track of it all.

No, it's not a bunch of crap. My Nissan Maxima requires changing the oil every 3,750 miles per the manufacturer. I do it every 3,000 miles just to be on the safe side.
It does for Schedule 1, but if you drive Schedule 2 (a lot of us do!) then it only requires changing the oil/filter every 7500--and that's with dino! I do a mix of S1 and S2, so I do mine every 7500 with mobil 1, and an OEM filter, on both maximas. Oil consumption is fairly small between both changes, but they were both used, so I couldn't control how the previous owner(s) handled the car in this area.

If I was buying a used car I'd like it to have the oil changed every 3k...or hell, even every 500 miles, but in reality if the guy was putting in synthetic and a GOOD filter every 10k I'd not worry any more in that area.