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[Imdmn04]

335i is A LOT faster than the posted time by the manufacturer.

BMW underrates the HP by quite a bit, the real 0-60 time is around 4.8 seconds, confirmed by various auto magazines and edmunds.


Also expect to pay MSRP for E92 335i coupe in most places, with sales tax, it will run about 50k. Get ready for the sticker shock.

 

[Sqube]

The IS250 isn't even in the same category as those other two; the horses simply aren't there. IS350 would compare more favorably, but doesn't have the third pedal (if that matters to you).

Go for that 335i.

 

[GrantMeThePower]

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
335i is A LOT faster than the posted time by the manufacturer.

BMW underrates the HP by quite a bit, the real 0-60 time is around 4.8 seconds, confirmed by various auto magazines and edmunds.


Also expect to pay MSRP for E92 335i coupe in most places, with sales tax, it will run about 50k. Get ready for the sticker shock.

QFT....this dude is on the money. like i said earlier...faster and more expensive.

On the BMW especially options jack the price way up....if you're talking a stripper model with no leather and everything, you might be able to keep it just under 50K, but its tough.

 

[fstime]

335i > IS350 > G35 ....... >IS250

335i makes the best power, nice torque band from way down low through the revs, IS350 has a nice engine but not as good IMO but the interior is excellent.

The recent G35's are said to have an improved interior but I cant comment.

 

[GTaudiophile]

If I could build a BMW 3-series any way I wanted it, regardless of price, it would be this (on bmwusa.com):

2007 BMW 335i
Sedan
Exterior: Alpine White
Interior: Terra w/ Dakota Leather Upholstery
Trim: Aluminium Trim

Performance Options:

YES Sport Package
NO Steptronic Automatic Transmission
NO Paddle Shifters
NO Active Steering

Safety Options:

Nothing Selected

Convenience Options:

YES Premium Package
YES Cold Weather Package
NO Comfort Access
NO Active Cruise Control
NO BMW Navigation System w/ iDrive
NO Power Rear Sunshades

Entertainment Options:

NO Sirius Satellite Radio
YES HD Radio
YES iPod/USB Adapter

Accessories:

All-Weather Cargo Liner
Carpeted Floor Mats
Aluminum Pedals
Rear Deck Spoiler
Smoked Sun/Wind Deflector

-----------------------------------------------

MSRP: $38,900
Options & Accessories: $6,843
Destination Charge: $775
TOTAL as Built: $46,518

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

My own 335i build is spendier:

335i coupe, 6-speed manual

Exterior Options:
Monaco Blue Metallic $475

Interior Options:
Saddle Brown/Black w/Dakota Leather Upholstery with Dark Burl Walnut Wood Trim

Packages/Options:
Sport Package $1,100
Premium Package $2,550
Cold Weather Package $750
Comfort Access $500
SIRIUS Satellite Radio $595
iPod/USB Adapter $400
Park Distance Control (rear) $350

Accessories:
None Selected

MSRP
$40,800

Options and accessories
$6,720

Destination charge
$775

Total price as built*
$48,295

I could easily ditch the Comfort Access and Park Distance Control, but I think I would get them given the choice.

 

[ViperVin2]

IS! I feel Lexus in general is one of the most under-rated luxury brands.

 

[Shlong]

I don't think the G37 looks as good as the concept but it's still an improvement over the current G35, and the interior is much improved as well. I prefer the new G35 sedan interior (which will be in the G37) over the BMW 335i. Edmunds intitial impressions seemed to like the G37 better.

The question remains whether the G37 Sport will match the acceleration of the BMW 335i, which hits 60 mph in only 4.8 seconds and trounces the quarter-mile in 13.3 seconds at almost 106 mph. Our seat-of-the-pants assessment says that the G37 isn't quite up to that task, due mostly to its torque deficit, fewer gears (the Bimmer has a six-speed automatic) and heavier estimated weight (3,682 pounds vs. 3,571 pounds).

But anytime the going gets twisty and you're driving in the upper reaches of the power band, the G will leave the 3 Series in its wake with better top-end punch and a more performance-focused chassis.

G37 coupes will hit dealers on August 21 of this year. Infiniti PR folks were characteristically tight-lipped about pricing, which won't be announced until just before the on-sale date.

If Infiniti follows tradition, however, it will undercut its German competition in price while offering similar or better performance. Currently, that means a G37 sport coupe with the five-speed automatic transmission will have to tally less than $44,000 ? an easy task considering the current car with these options rings up a $35,750 tab.

More importantly, it probably won't ever limp home. http://www.edmunds.com/insidel....il.home.photopanel..2.*

MotorTrend initial impressions seemed like they were leaning toward the G37 as well but until there's a comparison, we wont know. The 335i looks great, though I think the Infiniti concept looked even better, the G37 looks very good as well but not as good. With price factoring in, I would choose G37 > 335i > IS250. If the G37 is out of the picture I would say 335i > G35 > IS250.

 

[Sqube]

Originally posted by: ViperVin2
IS! I feel Lexus in general is one of the most under-rated luxury brands.

I like the IS, but do you really think the IS250 can compare against the G35/G37 or the 335i? I sure as hell don't.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Wait for the G37 Coupe coming out in a few months. Updated body style, 330hp, etc.

or the 2008 CTS. Fully redesigned 300+ hp and runs on regular.

:thumbsup:

 

[RollWave]

Why the AWD version of the IS? Doesnt fit with the other two cars selected AT ALL.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: RollWave
Why the AWD version of the IS? Doesnt fit with the other two cars selected AT ALL.

because neither of the other two cars offer a AWD version. i guess i could have compared the 250/350 rwd with the others but given the choice I'd rather the AWD.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK

Originally posted by: RollWave
Why the AWD version of the IS? Doesnt fit with the other two cars selected AT ALL.

because neither of the other two cars offer a AWD version. i guess i could have compared the 250/350 rwd with the others but given the choice I'd rather the AWD.

There is an AWD 335xi, just not a 335xi coupe (at least not at the moment). The xi actually achieves a better 0-60 time due to the improved traction off the line.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK

because neither of the other two cars offer a AWD version. i guess i could have compared the 250/350 rwd with the others but given the choice I'd rather the AWD.

there is a G35x

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK

because neither of the other two cars offer a AWD version. i guess i could have compared the 250/350 rwd with the others but given the choice I'd rather the AWD.

there is a G35x

yes, i know that there is a 35x as well as a 335xi both which have awd however neither are coupes.....

as much as I'd love to have the 335i at this point I am not ready to shell out $50k on a car. i might just wait to see how infiniti prices the g37

 

[ponyo]

Gimme chipped 335i.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: Naustica
Gimme chipped 335i.

wow, 12.56s / 108.75mph
hmmm

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK
yes, i know that there is a 35x as well as a 335xi both which have awd however neither are coupes.....

neither is the IS250

so, you'll excuse us if we think you were looking at sedans

 

[Arkaign]

/jealous

Question : I test drove a new M5, and found it to be super awesome, but looking at the track times, it doesn't seem too much faster than a 335i. So, could you theoretically grab an aftermarket intercooler, up the boost by 15-20%, and match the M5 speed for 20k+ savings? Just wondering.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
/jealous

Question : I test drove a new M5, and found it to be super awesome, but looking at the track times, it doesn't seem too much faster than a 335i. So, could you theoretically grab an aftermarket intercooler, up the boost by 15-20%, and match the M5 speed for 20k+ savings? Just wondering.

The M5 is way faster than the 335i on bigger tracks, but the tighter, more technical the track is, the better the 335i will do.

I don't believe anyone has an aftermarket intercooler for the 335i quite yet.

You can up the boost using the solutions from Vishnu or Split Second though.

 

[fstime]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
/jealous

Question : I test drove a new M5, and found it to be super awesome, but looking at the track times, it doesn't seem too much faster than a 335i. So, could you theoretically grab an aftermarket intercooler, up the boost by 15-20%, and match the M5 speed for 20k+ savings? Just wondering.

Your forgetting the M5 is a 5-series and the 335i is a 3 series. Bigger and heavier car.

You could compare it to the upcoming M3, but thats a 420hp V8.

 

[Sunrise089]

Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
The 335i is faster and more expensive than you listed. But it is by far the best choice. Not even worth thinking about for a second longer, just go buy it.

 

[exdeath]

Some other suggestions:

BMW - get a E46 M3 lightly used for $25k-$30k. Nicer than a 3 series, but not turbo, so less room for easy mods.

Lexus - get a IS300 lightly used for $20-$25k and if you crave power later you can do a 2JZGTE swap.

Torque - 2003 Cobra lightly used for $25k-30k, and $1600 for intake, catback, pulley, and tune on the way home gets you 500+ to the wheels.

Not a fan of new cars. Waste of money since its going to be 'used' anyway with a weeks worth of driving. And cars that have been out more than a year are better known as far as mods, potential, after market parts availability, etc. And if you couldn't tell I favor raw performance over luxury features.

All of these cars are going to require premium as they are high compression or boosted. Pretty much any small displacement 4cyl or 6cyl engine making more than 200 HP is high compression in order to get that power.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Originally posted by: exdeath
Some other suggestions:

BMW - get a E46 M3 lightly used for $25k-$30k. Nicer than a 3 series, but not turbo, so less room for easy mods.

Lexus - get a IS300 lightly used for $20-$25k and if you crave power later you can do a 2JZGTE swap.

Torque - 2003 Cobra lightly used for $25k-30k, and $1600 for intake, catback, pulley, and tune on the way home gets you 500+ to the wheels.

Not a fan of new cars. Waste of money since its going to be 'used' anyway with a weeks worth of driving. And cars that have been out more than a year are better known as far as mods, potential, after market parts availability, etc. And if you couldn't tell I favor raw performance over luxury features.

All of these cars are going to require premium as they are high compression or boosted. Pretty much any small displacement 4cyl or 6cyl engine making more than 200 HP is high compression in order to get that power.

Hey thanks for the reply. I think I am going to wait a couple years. My current car is fine for now. I did a payment estimatior for the 335i and it came out to something like $550/m with a $6000 trade in and $15,000 down for 60 months @ 5%. Hopefully my current car can hold out for like 3 more years and then I can try to get a used 335i or G37.

/thread

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: alkohoLiK

Originally posted by: exdeath
Some other suggestions:

BMW - get a E46 M3 lightly used for $25k-$30k. Nicer than a 3 series, but not turbo, so less room for easy mods.

Lexus - get a IS300 lightly used for $20-$25k and if you crave power later you can do a 2JZGTE swap.

Torque - 2003 Cobra lightly used for $25k-30k, and $1600 for intake, catback, pulley, and tune on the way home gets you 500+ to the wheels.

Not a fan of new cars. Waste of money since its going to be 'used' anyway with a weeks worth of driving. And cars that have been out more than a year are better known as far as mods, potential, after market parts availability, etc. And if you couldn't tell I favor raw performance over luxury features.

All of these cars are going to require premium as they are high compression or boosted. Pretty much any small displacement 4cyl or 6cyl engine making more than 200 HP is high compression in order to get that power.

Hey thanks for the reply. I think I am going to wait a couple years. My current car is fine for now. I did a payment estimatior for the 335i and it came out to something like $550/m with a $6000 trade in and $15,000 down for 60 months @ 5%. Hopefully my current car can hold out for like 3 more years and then I can try to get a used 335i or G37.

/thread

If you are really stoked about the new car thing, then start taking it seriously now. If you had $550/mo to spend on a car payment, why not save at least a part of that for the next three years you plan to keep your current car? Then you are $18k ahead of where you are now, and I'm willing to bet once you have that cash, you won't want to use it as just a down payment, you'll want to wait just a little bit longer and buy it in cash. Then when you finally get your car, you'll suddenly free up $550 a month, or in other words, instead of being -$550 in the hole with a car payment you'll be +$1100 compared to someone who financed one You get the same car and gain +$550 as disposable income at the same time, while they get the car and -$550 a month to their budget

Not to mention $8,000+ saved in interest, and the feeling you get driving around in a new > $25k car with no weight on your back.