YACT: Have you heard of this?

[Gamingphreek]

Car: 1992 Toyota Pickup V6 EFI, 5 Spd Manual Transmission

Problem: When i turn the wheel all the way, i get a popping noise. From what i can tell it has nothing to do with the steering column as it doesn't jerk violently or anything. I just get a loud popping noise from outside the car

??Solution??: Apparently, Japanese cars have some sort of a pipe that makes that noise. The cars, when new, ship with a cap on that pipe. However, over time the cap wears away and you here the noise.

Comment: I have never heard of such a beast. My Uncle who is has been a Master Mechanic for a LONG time hasn't heard of that. My friends haven't heard of it, but apparently this particular mechanic has.

Can someone just....confirm/deny/discuss this. I dont mind it too much, but it is kind of embarassing when your with friends, you turn the car and it makes horrible, painful noises. (Nothing i cant deal with though )

-Kevin

 

[Pepsi90919]

ball joint or tie rod

 

[iamwiz82]

Have you tried getting under it while someone else turns the wheel to see where it is coming from?

BTW, I could have sworn I have this exact thread months ago.

 

[imported_LoKe]

Can you get us a recording of the sound?

 

[FoBoT]

CV joints

get refurbed half axles and replace them

disclaimer: i am not a car guy

 

[spidey07]

from the front or the rear?

what mode of 4 wheel drive are you in?

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
ball joint or tie rod

It's the ball joint no doubt about it.

 

[Gamingphreek]

To answer both of your posts.

I posted about my tie rods about a month ago due to a recall on the Relay Rod and Tie Rods. The popping noise has been there, but i have just decided to really devote some time in figuring it out.

As for Pepsi's post; if it were the ball joint, wouldn't the car fail inspection? Additionally, because the tie rods were all just replaced, there is no way it can still be them as the problem is still there.

-Kevin

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
CV joints

That was my first thought

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
To answer both of your posts.

I posted about my tie rods about a month ago due to a recall on the Relay Rod and Tie Rods. The popping noise has been there, but i have just decided to really devote some time in figuring it out.

As for Pepsi's post; if it were the ball joint, wouldn't the car fail inspection? Additionally, because the tie rods were all just replaced, there is no way it can still be them as the problem is still there.

-Kevin

What inspection? Via the State Patrol? Emissions?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
CV joints

get refurbed half axles and replace them

disclaimer: i am not a car guy

Well hypothetically lets just say that is the problem. How hard and how expensive would that be to replace (Can I do it?)

from the front or the rear?

I would venture to say that it is towards the front of the car.

Can you get us a recording of the sound?

I can certainly try. Let me see if i can get someone to record it as i turn real quick.

Thanks for all the help (I always like learning about cars)

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
To answer both of your posts.

I posted about my tie rods about a month ago due to a recall on the Relay Rod and Tie Rods. The popping noise has been there, but i have just decided to really devote some time in figuring it out.

As for Pepsi's post; if it were the ball joint, wouldn't the car fail inspection? Additionally, because the tie rods were all just replaced, there is no way it can still be them as the problem is still there.

-Kevin

What inspection? Via the State Patrol? Emissions?

Just the state inspection. My friends Camaro just failed a state inspection because there was something wrong with her car's ball joints.

Additionally, aren't the ball joints, hard and expensive to replace?

-Kevin

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: FoBoT
CV joints

get refurbed half axles and replace them

disclaimer: i am not a car guy

Well hypothetically lets just say that is the problem. How hard and how expensive would that be to replace (Can I do it?)

from the front or the rear?

I would venture to say that it is towards the front of the car.

Can you get us a recording of the sound?

I can certainly try. Let me see if i can get someone to record it as i turn real quick.

Thanks for all the help (I always like learning about cars)

-Kevin

4x4 or 2 wheel drive? 2 wheel drive would be rear wheel drive so there wouldn't be any cv joints. 4x4, then yes. Pretty easy to do..at least on my Jetta.

 

[FoBoT]

i replaced the half axles on my 1990 mazda all my byself. it wasn't very hard. you just need jackstands and the correct wrenches. get a book and make sure you have all the tools you need

 

[fbrdphreak]

From what I understand, a popping coming from around the axle (which could be the case here if its 4WD) is a CV axle gone bad. If its 4WD, get under the front axles and look for the CV boots to see if they're torn. If they are, all/some of the grease might've come out and the bearings are going to wear out. http://cvaxles.com is a good source of reman axles.

 

[spidey07]

I'm guessing CV joints. Not a mechanic though. you said front end, you said popping noise, I though CV joints.

 

[Gamingphreek]

It is a 4x4.

Well i cant get a recording tonight, my dad refuses to help me (He believes the Toyota mechanic -_-) and it is almost 10:30. Probably not a good idea to go asking my friends if they can sit in the car and listen to a noise

At any rate, has ANYONE heard of such a cap and pipe configuration. It is just really really hard for me to believe that there would be such a monstrosity in a car. What purpose would this POS serve??

-Kevin

 

[imported_LoKe]

Just turn the recorder on and jump in the car? O_O

 

[spidey07]

It's a toyota. They put things in there to make sure they break, but only after the warranty is over.

you never know, I can see that happening with japenese cars.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: LoKe
Just turn the recorder on and jump in the car? O_O

Well i dont have anything aside from my cellphone to record with ATM. So ill have to find something. Right now im thinking of just taking a short video on my digital camera of it and using that speaker.

It's a toyota. They put things in there to make sure they break, but only after the warranty is over.

you never know, I can see that happening with japenese cars.

Ugh, i hope that isn't the case. At any rate, i would still buy a Toyota truck over almost any other on the market right now. They outclass almost everything.

-Kevin

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Here's how to do your CV joints..you want to replace the half-shafts, not just the joints. Doing the joints is a PITA and will take more time to do rather than the half-shafts. Yes, the shafts will cost you a bit more but for the less time and headaches, it's worth it.

First

1. Loosen the Axle nuts on the outer of the wheel but do not completely remove it yet. My jetta is 30mm.
2. Loosen the lug nuts.
3. Jack up the vehicle. Make sure the vehicle is supported by jackstands.
4. Remove the wheels.
5. Next remove the axle nut.
6. Remove the nut that holds the balljoint to the A-Arm.
7. Next use a fork type device to pry the balljoint from the A-Arm.
8. Slide the spindle assembly from the A-Arm.
9. Next remove the bolts that hold the shaft to the tranny. Mine are star shape but consult your Haynes, Chilton, or Dealer for more info.
10. Remove the shaft from the tranny.
The car must be in neutral to remove the shaft.
11. Get the new shaft and pack it thoroughly with high temp bearing grease. Dont' skimp on the grease!
12. Reverse the installation.

Torque everything down to manufacturer specs and test drive.

 

[Evadman]

I swear I already posted in this thread a few months ago. Is my mind going?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Evadman
I swear I already posted in this thread a few months ago. Is my mind going?

We covered that in another thread.

 

[iamaelephant]

You never mentioned if the noise appears when the car is stationary or only if it is moving. I have never heard of a "cap and pipe" configuration, sounds like nonsense to me. At any rate, it doesn't make sense for the noise to appear only when the wheel is at full lock if it is a CV joint. Does to noise appear only at full lock or any time you turn a corner?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Falcon39
You never mentioned if the noise appears when the car is stationary or only if it is moving. I have never heard of a "cap and pipe" configuration, sounds like nonsense to me. At any rate, it doesn't make sense for the noise to appear only when the wheel is at full lock if it is a CV joint. Does to noise appear only at full lock or any time you turn a corner?

The noise appears regardless of whether or not i am stationary or moving.

The noise only appears when i turn the wheel all the way.

-Kevin