Demon-Xanth
Lifer
The anti-roll bar is a bar that goes between the lower suspension pieces on each side and lets the car go up anbd down freely while restricting it's ability to have the opposite wheels go up and down independantly.
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YACT: Exhaust -- crush bent or mandrel bent
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Not all, most. Maybe on an underpowered 4 cyl you don't have enough power to leave second gear, but I have more power than that.
A road course teaches proper driving technique also. And the course is larger, and much more entertaining than a cramped parking lot course.
But would you really want to go on a road course with someone that might not even know how to take the proper line on a turn? I think it's better to learn to walk before you run. Of course it all depend on the driver, but generally I'd suggest most people take it to Auto-X before a road course.
I guess it depends on where you live but out here most of the Auto-X courses are designed so most people shouldn't get out of 2nd. Yes, even blown Camaro's very rarely get out of 2nd.
I wouldn't recommend that someone go all out, full throttle on their first time out on a roadcourse, they should take it easy at first and gradually work their way up to faster speeds once they gain some experience.
This is basic survival insticts, really. One should know when to say when, look before you leap, that sort of thing. I know that there are some wacko's out there who cannot control themselves and have to go all out when they first try something, but it's probably best for them to learn a lesson sometime or another.
I'm sure autoX will teach you the basics though, so it's not totally unproductive. I just like speed 🙂
TeenHeartthrob
Junior Member
ok, i dont know if you realize this but....
YOU DRIVE A COROLLA!!!!!!!!!!
Custom turbocharger, rear sway bar, buahahahahah
YOU DRIVE A COROLLA!!!!!!!!!!
Custom turbocharger, rear sway bar, buahahahahah
jlee
Lifer
Bah @ you.
I stated that the rear sway bar (suggested by someone else, I might add) was a bad idea. I also mentioned that a turbo would be way too expensive. What is your problem?
I don't know if you realize this...but it's my car, and I can do whatever I want with it.
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**but I'm just looking to make it a little more fun to drive (cold air intake & exhaust).
**Unless I spend way too much money on a custom turbocharger, there's no way I'm spending $400+ on an exhaust system..lol
**Where did I say I was going to make it "fast"? Go thread crap somewhere else.
Thanks to all who helped out..and to those who can't refrain from their post-count increasing thread craps, go find a ricer to complain about. As they say..straights are for fast cars; corners are for fast drivers. I'm not a big 1/4 mile fan..because I know I'm not going to be fast. Autox is something that I could have a chance in.
jlee
Lifer
I never said you ever said what I just said. 😛
With a crappy driver, a good car won't do much..and with a good driver, a crappy car might do okay. Eventually, I'd like to be considered a "good" driver..and even if I don't win (I'm expecting another derogatory comment regarding that, btw), it's still fun. I enjoy driving..if you have a problem with that, fine.
With a crappy driver, a good car won't do much..and with a good driver, a crappy car might do okay. Eventually, I'd like to be considered a "good" driver..and even if I don't win (I'm expecting another derogatory comment regarding that, btw), it's still fun. I enjoy driving..if you have a problem with that, fine.
Sounds like the people on your board don't actually know crap about handling. In general, most drop/lowering springs suck since they are progressive and obviously taking away a fair amount of suspension travel (I wouldn't recommend more than 1" with springs). KYB and Tokico struts are decent for the street but go toward real competitive spring rates and these things will crap out on you faster than you can say diaherrea. If you can find a linear rate spring from TRD and a set of Konis, that should do you VERY well.
Anti-roll bar = sway bar. Same thing. Most strut bars I see are made of crappy aluminum that will flex under load and make very little difference. If you really wanna stiffen up that chassis, steel or firewall braced strut bar is best.
About the exhaust... I personally like the way a Flowmaster sounds. Magnaflow was nice, just not my preference. Press bent should be fine... the cheaper the better. Honestly, it's almost throwing your money down the drain getting mods at such a car unless you're really serious about autoX.
You'll do fine in autoX, you'll be classed fairly against other cars nearly your level of performance and have your points adjusted according to the disadvantages of your lower class.
jlee
Lifer
I can't afford to get really serious about autox -- and if I did, I definitely wouldn't be driving a 4door FWD sedan.. 🙂
Thanks for the input..they carried both Magnaflow and Flowmaster, so I'll have to look at both.
I'm pretty sure my current strut bar isn't aluminum -- I was suprised by how solid it was.
Thanks for the input..they carried both Magnaflow and Flowmaster, so I'll have to look at both.
I'm pretty sure my current strut bar isn't aluminum -- I was suprised by how solid it was.
Can't afford?? Whoa... you can't afford to buy tires yet you're buying an exhaust? Heh, you can autoX your car with just performance shocks and your catback and still be in the stock class.
Fees range around $25-35 for the whole day of racing. The car control and driving skill you learn will carry over to any car you get from there on in. It will also make you a safer driver.
Yup, my post was one of many I do where I yell ricer and thread crap.
I'm just saying that it isn't worth it. It sounds like you're becoming a car enthusiast, I am too. I too wish I had a fast car, but I don't. Not even close. So I'm not going to bother spending money on it now, but rather continue to learn so maybe in a couple years I would be able to get a faster, enthusiast car.
I'm just saying that it isn't worth it. It sounds like you're becoming a car enthusiast, I am too. I too wish I had a fast car, but I don't. Not even close. So I'm not going to bother spending money on it now, but rather continue to learn so maybe in a couple years I would be able to get a faster, enthusiast car.
jlee
Lifer
Originally posted by: eagle
Yup, my post was one of many I do where I yell ricer and thread crap.
I'm just saying that it isn't worth it. It sounds like you're becoming a car enthusiast, I am too. I too wish I had a fast car, but I don't. Not even close. So I'm not going to bother spending money on it now, but rather continue to learn so maybe in a couple years I would be able to get a faster, enthusiast car.
I was seriously considering an older Mustang GT, but I don't think I'd be able to afford insurance for quite a while..I have nearly six years before the big insurance drop (25yo). I was also considering a small Ninja (250 or so), but Gainesville is full of crappy drivers..and I'd rather not end up being roadkill.
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