YACT: EFFFING HELL, 2k repairs on my Volvo!?

[Deleted member 4644]

It a 2001 S80 T6 and it needs a new:

Brake pad and rotor on front, and pad on back.
Oil pan seal
Turbo oil return gaskets
Engine mount
Oil change
Trans flush


EFF EFF EFF


NEVER BUY VOLVO

 

[Demo24]

just two brake pads😕

 

[Eli]

2k?!?!

I bet all that work would cost you about 200 bucks if you did it yourself. :laugh:

Most of that stuff is routine maintenance.

Get a second opinion. I think you're getting taken to the cleaners. Is the pan gasket leaking?

What is wrong with the engine mount? Are the turbo oil return lines leaking?

 

[Quasmo]

I just put $1500 into my car. New shocks and struts, tire alignment, hoses, headlight, front brakes and pads.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: Eli
2k?!?!

I bet all that work would cost you about 200 bucks if you did it yourself. :laugh:

Most of that stuff is routine maintenance.

Get a second opinion. I think you're getting taken to the cleaners. Is the pan gasket leaking?

What is wrong with the engine mount? Are the turbo oil return lines leaking?

Yes, pan gasket leaking, yes oil return lines leaking.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Deleted member 4644

Originally posted by: Eli
2k?!?!

I bet all that work would cost you about 200 bucks if you did it yourself. :laugh:

Most of that stuff is routine maintenance.

Get a second opinion. I think you're getting taken to the cleaners. Is the pan gasket leaking?

What is wrong with the engine mount? Are the turbo oil return lines leaking?

Yes, pan gasket leaking, yes oil return lines leaking.

Bummer...

Are there known problems with these gaskets? That's pretty ridiculous for a 6 year old car... I'd be pretty upset if they replaced them, and they just started leaking again in another 5 years.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Are you sure on all of those?

How many miles? What's the estimate break down to?

Brake pads and rotors for all four wheels should run you about $550 in parts (about $300 for front pads and rotors and about $250 for rear pads and rotors) and maybe another $200 in labor if your shop is charging a lot for labor.

Are you sure on the oil pan gasket (it's a gasket and not a seal)? These almost never fail and generally when they do its generally indicative of either high mileage (150,000+ miles) or poor maintenance. They are parts-cheap but very labor expensive. Wouldn't surprise me if it's a 4 hour ($400) job in terms of labor.

Oil return gaskets on the turbo are quick and simple, should not be expensive at all for this (~$100).

Engine mount? Really? I've never in my life seen an engine mount fail before 150,000 miles or 10 years. They just plain don't do that. I mean, it's possible you're just un-lucky, but that's incredibly rare.

Oil change and transmission flush are normal maintenance items, shouldn't be a big deal.

$2,000 doesn't seem unreasonable for all the work being done, but then again I'll drop $5,000 on the 951 in one fell swoop (friggin 26 hour clutch job) so I may be a little outside the norm.

ZV

 

[Zenmervolt]

Oh yeah, and you could afford an S80 T6, a $50,000+ car, and you can't afford $2,000 in repairs? Give me a break.

ZV

 

[Aharami]

u can do the brakes urself. its not that hard. oil change and trans flush u can do urself too. maybe even engine mount

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Are you sure on all of those?

How many miles? What's the estimate break down to?

Brake pads and rotors for all four wheels should run you about $550 in parts (about $300 for front pads and rotors and about $250 for rear pads and rotors) and maybe another $200 in labor if your shop is charging a lot for labor.

Are you sure on the oil pan gasket (it's a gasket and not a seal)? These almost never fail and generally when they do its generally indicative of either high mileage (150,000+ miles) or poor maintenance. They are parts-cheap but very labor expensive. Wouldn't surprise me if it's a 4 hour ($400) job in terms of labor.

Oil return gaskets on the turbo are quick and simple, should not be expensive at all for this (~$100).

Engine mount? Really? I've never in my life seen an engine mount fail before 150,000 miles or 10 years. They just plain don't do that. I mean, it's possible you're just un-lucky, but that's incredibly rare.

Oil change and transmission flush are normal maintenance items, shouldn't be a big deal.

$2,000 doesn't seem unreasonable for all the work being done, but then again I'll drop $5,000 on the 951 in one fell swoop (friggin 26 hour clutch job) so I may be a little outside the norm.

ZV

I agree. It sounds like this shop is trying to clean your wallet out. Have you visually inspected things yourself? Are these drip drip leaks, or just seepage?

The engine mount this is what really makes me go.. "eh?"

 

[Regs]

I heard a lot about the Turbo's on the Mazdaspeed 6's have leaky gaskets as well. Oil burns out through the exhaust making a nice blue haze color that reaks. Those are on the 07' models, so I guess it's not completely uncommon.

 

[Running]

volvo's don't have the best quality control. i usually hear that they have the worst electrical problems. i know my S70 did. =\

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Oh yeah, and you could afford an S80 T6, a $50,000+ car, and you can't afford $2,000 in repairs? Give me a break.

ZV

Where did he say he couldn't afford it? $2k worth of repairs just sucks -- regardless of being able to afford it.

 

[Running]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Oh yeah, and you could afford an S80 T6, a $50,000+ car, and you can't afford $2,000 in repairs? Give me a break.

ZV

if you're paying that much, you would expect quality from it, not for it to break constantly. i don't understand why people say stuff like that.

 

[thomsbrain]

no one ever said volvos were cheap to work on, only that they used to run forever if you kept up with the maintenance. they are a european brand, and you can expect to pay european costs to keep them on the road.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Running

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Oh yeah, and you could afford an S80 T6, a $50,000+ car, and you can't afford $2,000 in repairs? Give me a break.

ZV

if you're paying that much, you would expect quality from it, not for it to break constantly. i don't understand why people say stuff like that.

You haven't owned/worked on many cars, have you.

If you had, you'd understand that even with the best quality control things fail, there's no way around that and that the more electronic do-dads that a car has, the more opportunity there is for at least one thing to fail. Furthermore, the more advanced the engineering, the more difficult it becomes to fix a problem in the event that it does come up. Replacing the oil pan gasket is a half-hour job on a 1950's Chevy because the car is simple. People pay more today for complexity, which means that jobs take longer too. And because the cars are more complex, the mechanics charge more per hour in labor.

Turbos spin at hundreds of thousands of RPM. They create intense heat. If the OP isn't letting the car idle for 30 seconds each time before turning it off, it's no surprise at all that the oil return gaskets failed.

Honestly, the only two head-scratchers are the oil pan gasket (which is definitely not common) and the engine mount (which is mind-bogglingly rare). Otherwise, he doesn't list anything that's not strictly routine or typically owner-induced.

ZV

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Oh yeah, and you could afford an S80 T6, a $50,000+ car, and you can't afford $2,000 in repairs? Give me a break.

ZV

Where did he say he couldn't afford it? $2k worth of repairs just sucks -- regardless of being able to afford it.

$2K worth of repairs is about average.

Besides, if he could afford a $50,000 car, then he ought to be making at least $100,000/year if he's single. $2,000 in repair bills shouldn't even phase him.

If it's so bad, he can learn to do the work himself.

ZV

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Engine mount? Really? I've never in my life seen an engine mount fail before 150,000 miles or 10 years. They just plain don't do that. I mean, it's possible you're just un-lucky, but that's incredibly rare.

ZV

you've obviously never had a ford taurus.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Oh yeah, and you could afford an S80 T6, a $50,000+ car, and you can't afford $2,000 in repairs? Give me a break.

ZV

Where did he say he couldn't afford it? $2k worth of repairs just sucks -- regardless of being able to afford it.

$2K worth of repairs is about average.

Besides, if he could afford a $50,000 car, then he ought to be making at least $100,000/year if he's single. $2,000 in repair bills shouldn't even phase him.

If it's so bad, he can learn to do the work himself.

ZV

really? you wouldnt be the least bit bothered by being asked to fork over 2K on a 6 yr old car? No way in hell should be pay that much because even if he gets his car worked at that shop, he can bring that # down considerably by doing some of the work himself

 

[Aikouka]

Reminds me of when I had to pay ~2.4k for a car that I paid 6k for... that's when I ditched it and bought my Altima. Although I probably should've done that before I got the 6k car fixed 😛.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Running

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Oh yeah, and you could afford an S80 T6, a $50,000+ car, and you can't afford $2,000 in repairs? Give me a break.

ZV

if you're paying that much, you would expect quality from it, not for it to break constantly. i don't understand why people say stuff like that.

You haven't owned/worked on many cars, have you.

If you had, you'd understand that even with the best quality control things fail, there's no way around that and that the more electronic do-dads that a car has, the more opportunity there is for at least one thing to fail. Furthermore, the more advanced the engineering, the more difficult it becomes to fix a problem in the event that it does come up. Replacing the oil pan gasket is a half-hour job on a 1950's Chevy because the car is simple. People pay more today for complexity, which means that jobs take longer too. And because the cars are more complex, the mechanics charge more per hour in labor.

Turbos spin at hundreds of thousands of RPM. They create intense heat. If the OP isn't letting the car idle for 30 seconds each time before turning it off, it's no surprise at all that the oil return gaskets failed.

Honestly, the only two head-scratchers are the oil pan gasket (which is definitely not common) and the engine mount (which is mind-bogglingly rare). Otherwise, he doesn't list anything that's not strictly routine or typically owner-induced.

ZV

Yep. :thumbsup:

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Oh yeah, and you could afford an S80 T6, a $50,000+ car, and you can't afford $2,000 in repairs? Give me a break.

ZV

I can afford it, but I'm not liking it 🙁

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Running

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Oh yeah, and you could afford an S80 T6, a $50,000+ car, and you can't afford $2,000 in repairs? Give me a break.

ZV

if you're paying that much, you would expect quality from it, not for it to break constantly. i don't understand why people say stuff like that.

You haven't owned/worked on many cars, have you.

If you had, you'd understand that even with the best quality control things fail, there's no way around that and that the more electronic do-dads that a car has, the more opportunity there is for at least one thing to fail. Furthermore, the more advanced the engineering, the more difficult it becomes to fix a problem in the event that it does come up. Replacing the oil pan gasket is a half-hour job on a 1950's Chevy because the car is simple. People pay more today for complexity, which means that jobs take longer too. And because the cars are more complex, the mechanics charge more per hour in labor.

Turbos spin at hundreds of thousands of RPM. They create intense heat. If the OP isn't letting the car idle for 30 seconds each time before turning it off, it's no surprise at all that the oil return gaskets failed.

Honestly, the only two head-scratchers are the oil pan gasket (which is definitely not common) and the engine mount (which is mind-bogglingly rare). Otherwise, he doesn't list anything that's not strictly routine or typically owner-induced.

ZV

My car has a fan that cools the turbos down when you turn it off, I was told I don't need to idle....?

 

[CFster]

Things can get very expensive on Euro cars (surprise, surprise)

Don't ever lose your ignition key for your late model Saab. It's about a $1500 bill to replace. Not only must the key be replaced but the security module in the car as well (it's called a "Twice Unit", and can only be programmed once). But I digress.

We've done a bunch of oil pans on Volvos, (mostly because of transporter damage), and there's no gasket (use sealer - the Volvo stuff is the best), but there are o-rings you need to replace. They come in a kit from the dealer. The book calls for 6.4hrs labor to do it and it's right. You need to support the engine from the top and drop the cradle underneath. Not a huge deal in itself if you've done that before, but there's just a lot of stuff that needs to be unbolted, including your lower balljoints and one cv axle I believe. It really is a motherfvcker and you don't want to attempt it if you haven't done anything like this before.

Leaking turbo oil lines is common.

Mounts can go as much as $100 depending on which one it is (there are three), and up to 2.7hrs labor.

Mounts aren't infallible by the way. We replace them regularly on Honda's (especially Odyssey vans). There is a mount with a solenoid in it that is pretty expensive. Like anything else, the more complex they get, the easier they break (or wear out).

Good luck.

Oh BTW, some people around here think I'm full of sh1t, so believe me or not if you want.

 

[nakedfrog]

I know of someone else with a 2000/01 Volvo who had an engine mount replaced last year. The mounts in my 1990 seem fine, though.