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YACT - Acura TSX vs. Mazda RX-8

sygyzy

sygyzy

Lifer
Stats: 23 y.o.
Currently Driving - 2000 Toyota Celica GT AT

2005 Acura TSX - AT with Navigation System
MSRP - $29,560.00
Invoice - $26,993.00
Edmund's TMV - $29,560
Car Buying Tips Total (Factoring in Holdback and Accounting for Dealer Profit) - $27,981
21st Century Insurance - $730.00 / 6 months for "Better" (aka best/highest) coverage.
Average Price of 5 Buyers on Edmunds - $27952.60

2005 Mazda RX-8 - 6 speed MT, Sports Package, Spare Tire Kit, Cloth Seats
MSRP - $29,115
Invoice - $26,827
Edmund's TMV - $28,589
Car Buying Tips Total (Factoring in Holdback and Accounting for Dealer Profit) - $27,895.65
Dealer Quote With Sports Package Only - $26,909
The only two options I care about are the ones listed. But the spare tire kit is almost never ordered from the factory so it's hard to find cars with them included. Having the dealer install it means paying $500. Invoice on it is $320.
21st Century Insurance - $971.00 / 6 months for "Better" (aka best/highest) coverage.

So what do you guys think? The RX-8 would be my first MT car and seems like alot more fun to drive. But, even with initially similar costs, the insurance is some $750 more per year than I am currently paying on my Celica ($600 / 6 months for the same coverage). I really like the TSX's features (Navigation, CD changer, leather, etc) but it seems like a car you'd buy when you are in your late 20's, not early 20's. RX-* might be a cop magnet because of it's aggressive sports car styling.

Anyway, what do you guys think?


 
You need to decide how long you plan to keep this car

The Acura will be lower in upkeep, keep in mind insurance as well
 
Um, they're two totally different types of cars. We can't decide if you want a MT sports car or an auto entry level sports sedan.
 
i think i would keep the celica if it's up to me...

but if you must pick between the two, i'd pick the TSX. it should be more reliable and easier to fix, and probably has better gas milage?

if you want a unique car, i say the mitsu Evo8 is a better car than the RX8, while it costs something similar to the RX8.

hmm if you are definite on selling your car, where are you located? interested in selling it to me? =P

 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Um, they're two totally different types of cars. We can't decide if you want a MT sports car or an auto entry level sports sedan.
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right...makes no sense.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Why are you buying an auto TSX?

- M4H
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In my opinion, if I am driving a manual transmission, I'd want to be doing it in something I consider "sporty" such as an Integra, RSX, Tiburon, even a 3-Series BMW. I don't consider the TSX a sports car even though they label it a "sports sedan". I think of it as sort of a pseudo-luxury sedan (a tad higher than the Accord/Camry) but not in BMW or Benz land. When I am driving such a car, I don't care about shifting. I want to just enjoy the ride.

Also, I haven't seen any numbers for 0-60 in an AT but according to a dealer who was quoting Acura Engineers, since there is the drive-by-wire throttle, the gear shifts are very smooth and the performance is very very similar, if not better. Take that for what it's worth. I am just quoting.
 
Don't. The Acura still has a peaky engine and really needs a stick shift. You might as well buy an auto 4 banger Accord.
 
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
You need to decide how long you plan to keep this car

The Acura will be lower in upkeep, keep in mind insurance as well
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I think I will keep it 4-5 years.

Kelvrick - mazdaspeed6 does not really appeal to me at all. I eliminated A4, Legacy GT Limited, 9-3, WRX, from the list ... and S40 is probably leaving soon too.

sniperruff - I am located in Southern California (Santa Barbara to be exact). Yes I am selling it. Under 38,000 miles for a 4.5 year old car. Good condition to say the least. I would love to sell it to you.

 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Um, they're two totally different types of cars. We can't decide if you want a MT sports car or an auto entry level sports sedan.
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Exactly...these are two totally different types of cars. Decide which genre you want before narrowing down the specific car
 
Originally posted by: sniperruff
i think i would keep the celica if it's up to me...

but if you must pick between the two, i'd pick the TSX. it should be more reliable and easier to fix, and probably has better gas milage?

if you want a unique car, i say the mitsu Evo8 is a better car than the RX8, while it costs something similar to the RX8.

hmm if you are definite on selling your car, where are you located? interested in selling it to me? =P
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I dunno about listening to car advice from this guy after threads like this 😛
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Having driven an auto TSX I wouldn't want to own one. IMO a car with such a sporty (firm) suspension needs a manual to be fun. The RX-8 is a phenomenal handler but I wouldn't want to spend much time on the freeway in it (the low profile tires telegraph road noise into the cabin). If you do a lot of shorter trips the RX-8 will probably be more fun. The TSX manual is a better choice if you put a lot miles on your car. Can't go wrong with either, but be sure to get a stick.
 
Originally posted by: dethman
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Um, they're two totally different types of cars. We can't decide if you want a MT sports car or an auto entry level sports sedan.
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right...makes no sense.
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Ditto. Its hard to compare a manual tranny sports car with an automatic luxury/sporty sedan; its all about what you're looking for.

Go test drive 'em both a couple more times, think about when and where you'll be driving them and what you personally prefer, then choose.
 
Originally posted by: psteng19
Originally posted by: sniperruff
i think i would keep the celica if it's up to me...

but if you must pick between the two, i'd pick the TSX. it should be more reliable and easier to fix, and probably has better gas milage?

if you want a unique car, i say the mitsu Evo8 is a better car than the RX8, while it costs something similar to the RX8.

hmm if you are definite on selling your car, where are you located? interested in selling it to me? =P
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I dunno about listening to car advice from this guy after threads like this 😛
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meh so i didn't do the research... i did know that the TSX= japanese accord though.

yeah i was dead wrong about the murano/FX 😱

but regardless, i think keeping your current car is the best bet unless you can pay off for the new car without any major loans.

otherwise i think the TSX is a better car, although there are other choices such as the mustang GT and 350Z for that price, and if you prefer sedans you can get a legacy GT, mazda6s, or an altima SE for that price.

oh by the way too bad im in NY... a low milage car and a nice looking one! =/
 
No offense to RX8 fans, but until mazda speed releases one the RX8 will be mediocre at best. There are tons of problems that will turn off many like it not having the 250bhp they advertised. Also the fact that rotary engines are a bitch because you're screwed if you turn the engine on and off within a short period of time or flooding occurs and you have to get someone to tow the damn thing (happened to a friend of mine). I'd say go for the TSX because its just less of a hassle getting it, but get it in MT.
 
Don't get a TSX if you want lots of horsepower or a sports car - you will be extremely dissapointed. Having said that, it is probably the best entry level luxury sedan available. It looks awesome, has a decent amount of power (don't underestimate the 4 cylinder engine) and is fun to drive with a manual transmission. The 2005 models have some new features that weren't available in 2004, such as built in XM and a power front passenger seat. It is comparable to an Accord, but much sportier. Since it is a Honda at heart, it will definitely last a long time and shouldn't require any high repair costs.
 
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: psteng19
Originally posted by: sniperruff
i think i would keep the celica if it's up to me...

but if you must pick between the two, i'd pick the TSX. it should be more reliable and easier to fix, and probably has better gas milage?

if you want a unique car, i say the mitsu Evo8 is a better car than the RX8, while it costs something similar to the RX8.

hmm if you are definite on selling your car, where are you located? interested in selling it to me? =P
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I dunno about listening to car advice from this guy after threads like this 😛
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meh so i didn't do the research... i did know that the TSX= japanese accord though.

yeah i was dead wrong about the murano/FX 😱

but regardless, i think keeping your current car is the best bet unless you can pay off for the new car without any major loans.

otherwise i think the TSX is a better car, although there are other choices such as the mustang GT and 350Z for that price, and if you prefer sedans you can get a legacy GT, mazda6s, or an altima SE for that price.

oh by the way too bad im in NY... a low milage car and a nice looking one! =/
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I'd throw an 04 GTO into the mix aswell. Those go for the mid 20s. I'd go 350z, mustang GT, or GTO myself. None of the rest interest me 🙂.
 
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