YABT: If you get pulled over buy a cop, whats the BA limit to not get a DUI?

[alkemyst]

this is true you will now be more than likely looking at 3am or 4am in the morning (about 4 hours it 'takes')....and far away from your car....also your car is now towed away and it's a DUI tow, most counties along with good old MADD make that a 'special' tow....minimum of $250 for the hookup and like 5x the rate per mile. You will need cash and sometimes proof you were not charged (some will not release your car until you get the release form. The towing company will still charge you for the tow most times and it's up to you to get your money back from the county.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: shimsham
doenst matter. you can be arrested for dui with a bac of 0.0 if the officer thinks you are under the influence.

I would like to see that, moron :|

since my best friend has been a PD, hes had a few cases of it. its up to the discretion of the officer. maybe youll get lucky and itll happen to you, idiot.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Most states is 0.08, but some are 0.1.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: shimsham
doenst matter. you can be arrested for dui with a bac of 0.0 if the officer thinks you are under the influence.

I would like to see that, moron :|

since my best friend has been a PD, hes had a few cases of it. its up to the discretion of the officer. maybe youll get lucky and itll happen to you, idiot.

I'd tell your cop friend to be careful about that.
A lawsuit just wrapped up in Tigard, OR against the police there for charging a man with DUI even though he tested 0.00 BAC. The man won $125k and the arresting officer was fired.

Let me ask you something... how can someone be charged for being under the influence when tests prove that they haven't used any alcohol or drugs? I think you're confused about the fact that the 0.08% and 0.10% limits aren't absolute, that someone could be charged if they tested for less if they showed clear signs of intoxication. But they have to test for something, not 0.0%.

DUI is wrong, of course, and something offenders should be punished severely for, but (IMO) police abuse of power is worse.

 

[MacBaine]

Here is a little clarification on the whole arrest/not arrest thing.

In most states, it is .08 for legally intoxicated, with a few being .10. This will result in a DUI charge, no matter how impaired you seem.

Most states will be different, but in IL at least, if you blow a .05 or higher, you can be charged with a DUI based on officer discretion (how impaired you were acting). This is to cover cases where people blow less than a .08 but are obviously impaired.

Less than .05, if you are obviously impaired, you can be charged with Driving While Intoxicated (whole nother story... not too clear on this part), but this is to allow the officer to remove a driver who is not legally intoxicated, but is obviously impaired in their ability to handle the vehicle.

Here is an interesting situation though...

When somebody with diabetes goes into a diabetic shock, they will exhibit almost all the signs of being intoxicated. Slurred speech, loss of coordination/balance, and their breath will even smell of alcohol (caused by sugar). However, they will not blow positive on a PBT or breathalizer.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Vic

DUI is wrong, of course, and something offenders should be punished severely for, but (IMO) police abuse of power is worse.

So somebody being killed by a drunk driver is worse than being wrongfully arrested for a night? Not saying abuse of power is good, but you may want to rephrase that.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: shimsham
doenst matter. you can be arrested for dui with a bac of 0.0 if the officer thinks you are under the influence.

I would like to see that, moron :|

since my best friend has been a PD, hes had a few cases of it. its up to the discretion of the officer. maybe youll get lucky and itll happen to you, idiot.

I'd tell your cop friend to be careful about that.
A lawsuit just wrapped up in Tigard, OR against the police there for charging a man with DUI even though he tested 0.00 BAC. The man won $125k and the arresting officer was fired.

Let me ask you something... how can someone be charged for being under the influence when tests prove that they haven't used any alcohol or drugs? I think you're confused about the fact that the 0.08% and 0.10% limits aren't absolute, that someone could be charged if they tested for less if they showed clear signs of intoxication. But they have to test for something, not 0.0%.

DUI is wrong, of course, and something offenders should be punished severely for, but (IMO) police abuse of power is worse.

firstly PD=Public Defender. hes not a cop, thank god.

im not confused on the laws (in FL anyway) on the BAC. you can be arrested on DUI for anything, not just alcohol. its up to the arresting officer. if you are stone sober, but act like an a$$/a$$hole when pulled over, the cop can believe you to be intoxicated/under the influence and arreset you. whether or not you go to court on it is up to the DA, and they usually throw it out once they realize they dont have a case, or the person was wrongfully arrested.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: VicDUI is wrong, of course, and something offenders should be punished severely for, but (IMO) police abuse of power is worse.

So somebody being killed by a drunk driver is worse than being wrongfully arrested for a night? Not saying abuse of power is good, but you may want to rephrase that.

You're confusing the certainty of a wrongful arrest with the possibility of a fatality. In other words, you're using a logical fallacy and hiding behind an inflammatory statement.
We could use your same argument to say that there would be no accidental gun deaths if no one was allowed guns or (even more accurate to your statement) that there would be no crime if we were all in prison already.

But to take the bait and answer your inflammatory and immature question, yes, I do believe that the certainty of a wrongful arrest is worse than the remote and unlikely possibility of preventing a fatality.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: VicDUI is wrong, of course, and something offenders should be punished severely for, but (IMO) police abuse of power is worse.

So somebody being killed by a drunk driver is worse than being wrongfully arrested for a night? Not saying abuse of power is good, but you may want to rephrase that.

You're confusing the certainty of a wrongful arrest with the possibility of a fatality. In other words, you're using a logical fallacy and hiding behind an inflammatory statement.
We could use your same argument to say that there would be no accidental gun deaths if no one was allowed guns or (even more accurate to your statement) that there would be no crime if we were all in prison already.

But to take the bait and answer your inflammatory and immature question, yes, I do believe that the certainty of a wrongful arrest is worse than the remote and unlikely possibility of preventing a fatality.

I think you are digging to deep into what I said.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Beau
Alabama .08
Alaska .10
Arizona .08
Arkansas .08
...
Vermont .08
Virginia .08
Washington .08
West Virginia .10
Wisconsin .10
Wyoming .10

I'm not sure how up to date that list is - I read in the paper that theres only a few left that haven't switched to .08 yet. They have to lower it to .08 by October or November or risk losing highway funding.

 

[gwlam12]

Originally posted by: austin316
just looked it up. Ohio is now .08

so you looked it up...so why bother starting this thread in the first place?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: Vic

DUI is wrong, of course, and something offenders should be punished severely for, but (IMO) police abuse of power is worse.

So somebody being killed by a drunk driver is worse than being wrongfully arrested for a night? Not saying abuse of power is good, but you may want to rephrase that.

I have been pulled over and questioned EIGHT TIMES for suspicion of DUI and have never driven drunk. The most creative excuse they gave for pulling me over was "driving too close to the yellow line." That is abuse of power. That is WRONG.

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: Vic

DUI is wrong, of course, and something offenders should be punished severely for, but (IMO) police abuse of power is worse.

So somebody being killed by a drunk driver is worse than being wrongfully arrested for a night? Not saying abuse of power is good, but you may want to rephrase that.

I have been pulled over and questioned EIGHT TIMES for suspicion of DUI and have never driven drunk. The most creative excuse they gave for pulling me over was "driving too close to the yellow line." That is abuse of power. That is WRONG.

You may just be a habitual weaver or do other things that draw attention. Crossing the lane dividers and hugging the lines and other markings are classic signals of an impaired driver and are often used as pc to porform a traffic stop. Other clues include such things as not knowing what to do at stop lights, failure to signal, driving too fast, driving too slow, etc. etc.

If they pulled you over and questioned you and stated thier reason was they don't like you or something like that...that is an abuse of power.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: Vic

DUI is wrong, of course, and something offenders should be punished severely for, but (IMO) police abuse of power is worse.

So somebody being killed by a drunk driver is worse than being wrongfully arrested for a night? Not saying abuse of power is good, but you may want to rephrase that.

I have been pulled over and questioned EIGHT TIMES for suspicion of DUI and have never driven drunk. The most creative excuse they gave for pulling me over was "driving too close to the yellow line." That is abuse of power. That is WRONG.

No, it's their JOB dumbass... Do you know how many people on the road have been drinking on an average weekend night? It's like 1/3. Do you think cops get high from pulling you over and seeing if you've been drinking? I would rather they pulled people over who have the possibility of being drunk and checking it out than just letting it go. So what did you lose... 10 minutes of your time? Yeah, they really are bastards.

You sound like the kind of person who would get a bitchy because "Cops sit around doing nothing all night while crime is happening", but now you're bitching because they saw something which might possibly be a DUI, so they decided to investigate it.

So why don't you grow up and STFU? kthxbye

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: mugsywwiii
I have been pulled over and questioned EIGHT TIMES for suspicion of DUI and have never driven drunk. The most creative excuse they gave for pulling me over was "driving too close to the yellow line." That is abuse of power. That is WRONG.

If you were weaving or crossing the center line, that is acceptable probable cause to pull you over on suspicion of DUI.

I understand your complaint though.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
No, it's their JOB dumbass... Do you know how many people on the road have been drinking on an average weekend night? It's like 1/3. Do you think cops get high from pulling you over and seeing if you've been drinking? I would rather they pulled people over who have the possibility of being drunk and checking it out than just letting it go. So what did you lose... 10 minutes of your time? Yeah, they really are bastards.

You sound like the kind of person who would get a bitchy because "Cops sit around doing nothing all night while crime is happening", but now you're bitching because they saw something which might possibly be a DUI, so they decided to investigate it.

So why don't you grow up and STFU? kthxbye

If you honestly think many cops don't love to abuse their authority you also need to grow up and STFU.

10mins? anytime I have ever been pulled over it's more than 10mins.

You can ask my wife how many times it's been obvious harrassment when I have been stopped. The worst has been pulling into Citibank in Palm Beach (there are only two here and they are one of the few banks that handle international banking).

No drinking, no speeding, obeying stops and signalling, yet still Chief Blueballs tears out of a driveway on my tail about 3" from my bumper for about 1 mile....as I pull into the bank he is sort of "T" ing me into my space, but not sirens or lights or anything...I just think he's being a prick and needs to use the bank too. As soon as I open the door to the bank to let my wife in, he gets over his PA: "GET BACK IN THE CAR NOW! KEEP YOUR HANDS WHERE I CAN SEE THEM NOW!!!!!" this is about 30 second almost from when we both stop, my wife getting her stuff together and me locking my car and us walking to the door. He tells me I didnt put on my signal to enter my parking space. Has me do all my lights, checks my tires, says things like 'back over the bridge in West Palm Beach where I am from they would have shot me getting out of the car like that'....I fill him in I live in Wellington, not West Palm Beach, they would not have pulled me over like this there and I would love to see the paperwork you'd be doing the rest of your life for shooting me getting out of my car to go into a bank.

He got pissed then and asked why am I in Palm Beach anyway....then said don't they have another bank I could use in West Palm? All this nonsense.

The ticket I got had no info on it other than a violation code....no fine, no phone number, no other info....I called up and found out Palm Beach has it's own police....I called them and a Captain or Sargeant talked to me and pulled it up....he was pissed off about it. Told me it was a tint ticket and that the fine was like $20, and he offered to transfer me to a pay by phone system. I discussed what had happened and he had a couple other complaints about the same officer involving a girl he had pulled over 7 days in a row straight for something similar and he was looking into that already. I admitted my tint was probably too dark and I have no problem being fined for that, but it would have been nice to know what my charges were.


I biggest accomplishment to get back at police has been a 3 month affair with a cop's wife and also one night (as a teenager) using hi powered air rifles (me and two friends) shooting out their spotlights until a helicopter came .