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[Ns1]

Originally posted by: irishScott
So in short you justify that the sky is purple by refusing to believe any of the widely accepted sources that say otherwise, while confident in the knowledge that you are the superior being because :music: you-know-something-weeeeeee-doooooon't :music: And not unlike the Westboro Baptish Church, you twist the various rebuttals into proof that you're right.

You sir, fail at life.

CT handbook, page 16 para 2.

Standard operating procedure, really.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko

Not that much radiation. 🙂
Shielding. 🙂
Limited exposure time. 🙂

Enough radiation for this
FAA advisory.
It essentially grounds pregnant flight personnel. Personnel inside an aluminum craft.

You suck at reading comprehension.

Flight crews on an airplane get about 200-400 mrem per year.

A lethal dose of radiation is about 400 rem.

The apollo astronauts were exposed to about 400 - 1,000 mrem. Yes, that's a significant amount of radiation, but it's waaaaaay below a lethal dose. Maybe two or three chest X rays worth.

 

[Oceandevi]

We will colonize mars within 40 years.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko

Not that much radiation. 🙂
Shielding. 🙂
Limited exposure time. 🙂

Enough radiation for this
FAA advisory.
It essentially grounds pregnant flight personnel. Personnel inside an aluminum craft.

You suck at reading comprehension.

Flight crews on an airplane get about 200-400 mrem per year.

A lethal dose of radiation is about 400 rem.

The apollo astronauts were exposed to about 400 - 1,000 mrem. Yes, that's a significant amount of radiation, but it's waaaaaay below a lethal dose. Maybe two or three chest X rays worth.

keep in mind all the radiation he gets living in his parent's basement.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi
We will colonize mars within 40 years.

I'll be impressed if we've had a human there within forty years.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko
"yes, they did."
No, they didn't. Not until after the last Apollo mission. Strangely, the next three scheduled missions were then cancelled.

From one of your links: "Is it impossible to travel to the Moon, because of the Van Allen Belt?"
This is a VERY common misdirection. Focusing on the Van Allen Belts diverts from the fact that once past them, the protection provided by the Earth's magnetic fields is lost.

Not so much concerned about the stars not being in the photos. Interesting though that over 5000 official NASA moon photos, supposedly taken by the astronauts, available from a cumulative total time of under 5000 minutes on the moon.

🙂

P.S. Lotsa radiation.

All in favor of ignoring OokiiNeko from this point on?

P.S. Lotsa radiation. Everyone knows this.



Oh, and there's a difference between "skepticism" and "willful ignorance." You seem to be displaying the latter.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I think some of the nay-sayers on this site are just doing it for laughs. Hopefully, no one here believes in these nut job conspiracies.

It'd be awesome if the moderators would ban those people for being trolls, else ban them to make the average level of intelligence on these forums surge higher. 😛

*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*
Look, they don't swallow like good little whores, ban em!

BTW, I'm a skeptic, not a full on non-believer. However, you two... Let's just say you two can piss off. Well, a number of you can piss off, actually.

I've noticed a whole lot of this discussion has turned into the believers just making fun of the conspiracy theory and anybody who is remotely skeptical, instead of argument/counter-argument. Sounds a lot like religious arguments to me, wherein the faith-driven people just start getting belligerent and rude since they have nothing else to fall back on.
*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I think some of the nay-sayers on this site are just doing it for laughs. Hopefully, no one here believes in these nut job conspiracies.

It'd be awesome if the moderators would ban those people for being trolls, else ban them to make the average level of intelligence on these forums surge higher. 😛

*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*
Look, they don't swallow like good little whores, ban em!

BTW, I'm a skeptic, not a full on non-believer. However, you two... Let's just say you two can piss off. Well, a number of you can piss off, actually.

I've noticed a whole lot of this discussion has turned into the believers just making fun of the conspiracy theory and anybody who is remotely skeptical, instead of argument/counter-argument. Sounds a lot like religious arguments to me, wherein the faith-driven people just start getting belligerent and rude since they have nothing else to fall back on.
*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I think some of the nay-sayers on this site are just doing it for laughs. Hopefully, no one here believes in these nut job conspiracies.

It'd be awesome if the moderators would ban those people for being trolls, else ban them to make the average level of intelligence on these forums surge higher. 😛

*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*
Look, they don't swallow like good little whores, ban em!

BTW, I'm a skeptic, not a full on non-believer. However, you two... Let's just say you two can piss off. Well, a number of you can piss off, actually.

I've noticed a whole lot of this discussion has turned into the believers just making fun of the conspiracy theory and anybody who is remotely skeptical, instead of argument/counter-argument. Sounds a lot like religious arguments to me, wherein the faith-driven people just start getting belligerent and rude since they have nothing else to fall back on.
*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*

Well if you discount the Moon landing, aw hell, I'll start the WWII conspiracy thread.
I never saw it, I only saw video of it. I've also seen movies of it, and the picture quality in the movies was better than the "footage" from the "field," probably due to lousy quality soundstages back when the video was shot. And I can't even fathom that people would shoot each other like that. It had to have been fake. I mean come on, nothing moves as fast as the bullets in those videos. Physics simply says it's impossible.


P.S. Radiation.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I think some of the nay-sayers on this site are just doing it for laughs. Hopefully, no one here believes in these nut job conspiracies.

It'd be awesome if the moderators would ban those people for being trolls, else ban them to make the average level of intelligence on these forums surge higher. 😛

*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*
Look, they don't swallow like good little whores, ban em!

BTW, I'm a skeptic, not a full on non-believer. However, you two... Let's just say you two can piss off. Well, a number of you can piss off, actually.

I've noticed a whole lot of this discussion has turned into the believers just making fun of the conspiracy theory and anybody who is remotely skeptical, instead of argument/counter-argument. Sounds a lot like religious arguments to me, wherein the faith-driven people just start getting belligerent and rude since they have nothing else to fall back on.
*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*

need more straw-man.

 

[DangerAardvark]

I hate these gullible rubes trying to bring their pages and pages of logically sound counter arguments and facts into the debate. Don't they know that the proper form of debate on ATOT is shouting your opinion as loud and as often as possible?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I think some of the nay-sayers on this site are just doing it for laughs. Hopefully, no one here believes in these nut job conspiracies.

It'd be awesome if the moderators would ban those people for being trolls, else ban them to make the average level of intelligence on these forums surge higher. 😛

*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*
Look, they don't swallow like good little whores, ban em!

BTW, I'm a skeptic, not a full on non-believer. However, you two... Let's just say you two can piss off. Well, a number of you can piss off, actually.

I've noticed a whole lot of this discussion has turned into the believers just making fun of the conspiracy theory and anybody who is remotely skeptical, instead of argument/counter-argument. Sounds a lot like religious arguments to me, wherein the faith-driven people just start getting belligerent and rude since they have nothing else to fall back on.
*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*

So go beyond thinking it's merely possible or even likely that it was faked, but fully believe that the whole thing was a sham, and entirely discount the possibility that it actually happened?

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I think some of the nay-sayers on this site are just doing it for laughs. Hopefully, no one here believes in these nut job conspiracies.

It'd be awesome if the moderators would ban those people for being trolls, else ban them to make the average level of intelligence on these forums surge higher. 😛

*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*
Look, they don't swallow like good little whores, ban em!

BTW, I'm a skeptic, not a full on non-believer. However, you two... Let's just say you two can piss off. Well, a number of you can piss off, actually.

I've noticed a whole lot of this discussion has turned into the believers just making fun of the conspiracy theory and anybody who is remotely skeptical, instead of argument/counter-argument. Sounds a lot like religious arguments to me, wherein the faith-driven people just start getting belligerent and rude since they have nothing else to fall back on.
*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*This is my actual opinion, I am not trolling!*anti-bullshit-ban disclaimer*

And yet, the only valid sources thus far have been posted by these people you so despise, and the one real source posted by a conspiracy theorist actually backfired and supported the other side completely.

No conspiracy theorist in this thread has been able to raise so much as one valid piece of evidence to support their theories. Yet despite the masses upon masses of proven contrary evidence they continue to cling to their irrational beliefs. You want to talk about religious arguments?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Citrix
there is no way the apollo program or the moon landings be faked NASA employed 10's of thousands of people and spanned over a decade, no way a hoax could be kept secret.

umm how do government secrets stay secret then?

because of a need to know basis.

the fewer people aware of the secret, the easier it is to control it.

you can't control 10's of thousands of people in any meaningful way.

That's where your logic is flawed. There were hardly 10's of thousands that knew each detail of the moon launch. Not saying it was fixed...but it'd have been a simple as launching the rocket and then providing footage from within it that was prerecorded.

Most people don't understand the level of advancement the military sector has over private.

do you have any idea of how many people were involved in launching that rocket? You think it was just the flight controllers?

Add it up and there are thousands of people responsible for that launch.

yeah organized religion will never work.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Citrix
there is no way the apollo program or the moon landings be faked NASA employed 10's of thousands of people and spanned over a decade, no way a hoax could be kept secret.

umm how do government secrets stay secret then?

because of a need to know basis.

the fewer people aware of the secret, the easier it is to control it.

you can't control 10's of thousands of people in any meaningful way.

That's where your logic is flawed. There were hardly 10's of thousands that knew each detail of the moon launch. Not saying it was fixed...but it'd have been a simple as launching the rocket and then providing footage from within it that was prerecorded.

Most people don't understand the level of advancement the military sector has over private.

do you have any idea of how many people were involved in launching that rocket? You think it was just the flight controllers?

Add it up and there are thousands of people responsible for that launch.

yeah organized religion will never work.

It sounds like you're halfway in the conspiracy theorists' camp.

 

[Rubycon]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

P.S. Radiation.

mmm Radium disks! :laugh:

 

[cronos]

just do it again and broadcast to the whole world and everyone will shut up.

it's 40 year-old technology. it shouldn't be too complicated now.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: cronos
just do it again and broadcast to the whole world and everyone will shut up.

it's 40 year-old technology. it shouldn't be too complicated now.

It's not like you need to be a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out.

 

[ForumMaster]

anybody who thinks it's a conspiracy needs to be neutered at the very least. this is just sad and pathetic. this is as bad as not believing in evolution. Americans just amaze me sometimes. NASA did the amazing feat of landing on the moon in 1969. they spent the billions on the R&D and got to the moon. and people don't believe them. it's sad.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

It sounds like you're halfway in the conspiracy theorists' camp.

nah...but a nitwit like you would think that.

conspiracy happens, anyone that thinks a large organization cannot keep secrets is a moran.

Again not saying the moon launch was faked, but it would have been easy to do so.

Hell, most of N. Korea believes they made it to space with their launch a few months ago.

 

[cronos]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: cronos
just do it again and broadcast to the whole world and everyone will shut up.

it's 40 year-old technology. it shouldn't be too complicated now.

It's not like you need to be a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out.

i wasn't being sarcastic. i wish NASA would just shut the conspiracy theorists up by showing them. they only need to repeat something that they did 40 freaking years ago. no need to land on Mars or anything crazy like that. just send people to the moon again.

i'm too lazy right now but i'm sure anyone can make a nice analogy in a different field in technology of how easy it is to pull off today with current technology advancement something that you have already done 40 years ago.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Every single aspect of the conspiracy idiots' argument has been thoroughly debunked. It's not even a debatable topic.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: cronos

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: cronos
just do it again and broadcast to the whole world and everyone will shut up.

it's 40 year-old technology. it shouldn't be too complicated now.

It's not like you need to be a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out.

i wasn't being sarcastic. i wish NASA would just shut the conspiracy theorists up by showing them. they only need to repeat something that they did 40 freaking years ago. no need to land on Mars or anything crazy like that. just send people to the moon again.

i'm too lazy right now but i'm sure anyone can make a nice analogy in a different field in technology of how easy it is to pull off today with current technology advancement something that you have already done 40 years ago.

Provided we still have all of the plans for all the equipment, they would be largely useless. We know how to get to the moon with 40 year old technology, but we aren't going to use 40 year old technology to go back. The same parts are no longer being manufactured and there is no desire to use the same electronics. They need to redesign a new rocket system and space craft which is no an easy thing to do. We do not even have a heavy payload rocket.

Now if you want to expend the billions of dollars to design, test, manufacture and go through multiple space missions with new rockets, command module and lunar module just to satisfy some crazy people go right ahead. Of course this is ignoring the fact that NASA is running a new program to go back to the moon at the moment but they seem to have reasons other than proving themselves to a bunch of whiny youtube commentators.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: cronos
just do it again and broadcast to the whole world and everyone will shut up.

it's 40 year-old technology. it shouldn't be too complicated now.

No, they wouldn't shut up.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko

Not that much radiation. 🙂
Shielding. 🙂
Limited exposure time. 🙂

Enough radiation for this
FAA advisory.
It essentially grounds pregnant flight personnel. Personnel inside an aluminum craft.

No it doesn't, it limits their accumulated exposure, did you do the math? I did and unless I'm screwing it up (possible), FAA's calculator says that 400 minute (just a guess, but I think I'm being very conservative) LAX to LGA (Los Angeles to NYC) flight (20 minutes ascending to altitude + 20 descending from altitude) @ 35000ft would allow a pregnant crewmember ~ 13 flights in a one month period.

I don't think it takes nearly 7 hours to fly that route, so the real number is probably several more that 13. I'm also guessing the FAA is being very conservative setting a pregnant crewmember's limit for the entire pregnancy to 1/50th of the limit for a nonpregnant crewmember's maximum exposure limit for a year.


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