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gigapet

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: gigapet
I will nto post it now. I've broken too many rules. there will be too much backlash.
Ok, how about a redeaming rule. Unwritten financial rule #0:

It is just money. You'll get more of it later. If overall, you are happier with the product/service than you are with the equivalent amount of money, then you made a good purchase.


:thumbsup: :) :beer:


 

CRXican

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you people are too uptight

not eveyone is a baller and can pay cash for cars. There is nothing wrong with a 60 month loan. I'd like to see you pay a $40,000 loan in 36 months
 

dullard

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May 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: CRXican
you people are too uptight

not eveyone is a baller and can pay cash for cars. There is nothing wrong with a 60 month loan. I'd like to see you pay a $40,000 loan in 36 months
1) The uptight people CAN afford to pay a $40,000 loan in 36 months. It is people who don't think of money that cannot afford those loans.

2) If you have near perfect credit, a $40,000 loan in 60 months is just under $800 a month. For the same person, a $40,000 loan in 48 months is just over $900 a month. Honestly, if you truely can afford $800 a month, then you can afford $900 a month. What is the difference? The $800 a month payment has ~$1300 more interest, 26% more than the $900 a month payment. If you are not a baller, can you afford $1300 more interest?

2b) If you have average credit, add ~$25 a month to those numbers, but the comparison is the same.
 

GasX

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CRXican
you people are too uptight

not eveyone is a baller and can pay cash for cars. There is nothing wrong with a 60 month loan. I'd like to see you pay a $40,000 loan in 36 months

Maybe if you aren't a "baller" and can't afford to pay of a car in 36 months, you should rethink your purchase choice...

Remember, he is talking about a used car not a new car. A new car may be financed over a longer period of time, but only if you plan to keep the car for longer than the length of the loan.

Ultimately, 36 months is a guideline for people who are smart with their money. If you want to finance that 97 Mustang with 135,000 miles over 4 years and can find a lender who is willing - more power to you - but that doesn't make you a wise spender...
 

MaxDSP

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: CRXican
you people are too uptight

not eveyone is a baller and can pay cash for cars. There is nothing wrong with a 60 month loan. I'd like to see you pay a $40,000 loan in 36 months

Maybe if you aren't a "baller" and can't afford to pay of a car in 36 months, you should rethink your purchase choice...

Remember, he is talking about a used car not a new car. A new car may be financed over a longer period of time, but only if you plan to keep the car for longer than the length of the loan.

Ultimately, 36 months is a guideline for people who are smart with their money. If you want to finance that 97 Mustang with 135,000 miles over 4 years and can find a lender who is willing - more power to you - but that doesn't make you a wise spender...


:thumbsup:
 

Jzero

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dullard
2) If you have near perfect credit, a $40,000 loan in 60 months is just under $800 a month. For the same person, a $40,000 loan in 48 months is just over $900 a month. Honestly, if you truely can afford $800 a month, then you can afford $900 a month. What is the difference? The $800 a month payment has ~$1300 more interest, 26% more than the $900 a month payment. If you are not a baller, can you afford $1300 more interest?

Eff that. My mortgage is only $1000/month. No way I'm paying ANOTHER mortgage for a freakin' car.

That said, financing a "depreciating asset" is only a financial blunder if you don't realize that a car depreciates and are expecting to somehow leverage the equity in it later on.
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: gigapet

arent you financed based on an annual percfentage rate?

so if I want to pay off the entire loan the first year I just pay the initial loan amount times the annual interest rate.

This number is lower than what I would pay out if I didnt pay it off in 1 year but instead paid it off over 4 years.

correct?

Probably, but not necessarily. It depends on the type of loan. A simple interest loan is what you described - you only pay interest on the amount of time the loan exists. This is required for home mortgages but not for all types of loans.

Some loans are structured so that an early payoff hardly saves you anything. Some loans will rebate unearned interest based on the "Rule of 78's" and if you see that statement in your loan documentation you know you will get screwed by paying it off early. They can screw you even if the loan says "no prepayment penalty". Yeah, there's no penalty, but there's no benefit either!

But anyway, chances are your loan is a simple interest loan and all is well.
 

halik

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
pics?

@ work. Later I will.

what car?
Unless you have a lotta liquid cash, you will always finance a depreciating asset....

i just bought a house. So that is an example of financing an appreciating asset.

yeah,
i was talking about buying cars though. Hardly anyone buys a new car with cash....
 

dxkj

Lifer
Feb 17, 2001
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Meh, I have you beat badly.


I bought a new hyundai for 17k, forgot to bring a check so only put 2k down on the CC, and financed it at 6.25% for 5 years.


The loans keep piling up! This is fun :)
 

xSauronx

Lifer
Jul 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: akubi
Originally posted by: Aharami
what car?


I will nto post it now. I've broken too many rules. there will be too much backlash.

if it makes you feel better my ex just told me she paid almost 14k for an aveo (5 year plan) before TTL, she didnt even try to get h price down, just took it...

you didnt get an aveo did you....?
 

gigapet

Lifer
Aug 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: akubi
Originally posted by: Aharami
what car?


I will nto post it now. I've broken too many rules. there will be too much backlash.

if it makes you feel better my ex just told me she paid almost 14k for an aveo (5 year plan) before TTL, she didnt even try to get h price down, just took it...

you didnt get an aveo did you....?

I dont even know what that is so.....NO!
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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We'll forgive you. If you're going to finance a car, a used one is actually better than a new one because it's already lost a lot of it's value :)
 

BooGiMaN

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your not one of those guys in the car threads always talking about how stupid it is to finance a car are ya.....
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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There is no such rule. Get over it, you're experiencing a little buyer's remorse is all.

Now go enjoy your new car! :D
 

ElFenix

Elite Member
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Mar 20, 2000
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lemme ask everyone else:

what the fsck should you do with a car, then? buy it outright and have all that money tied up in a depreciating asset? if you can get a rate of return equal to or higher than the interest rate of the loan on the car then you should finance the car and make the money that hasn't been paid into it work for you, pay off the interest and maybe have some extra. you know you'd be a fool for paying for a car outright if you can get 0% interest rate on it, right?


 

Armitage

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Feb 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: CRXican
you people are too uptight

not eveyone is a baller and can pay cash for cars. There is nothing wrong with a 60 month loan. I'd like to see you pay a $40,000 loan in 36 months

If you can't then you probably shouldn't be buying a $40K car.
People spend crazy money on cars - I can't imagine spendiong that much on a car.
 

MommysLittleMonster

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Originally posted by: gigapet
bought a used car. Got a spectacular deal on it.

Bad News: I am financing a depreciating asset.


Good News: I freaking love this car

My friend works at Carmax and he told me this crazy story from the other day. Some mother and daughter come in to buy a car for the daughter. The mom is co-signing. The daughter is early 30s.

Background info.

Daughter filed for bankruptcy two years ago.
She makes 70K a year now.
Lives with her mother.


They come in and they like the Mercedes ML500. Carmax price=$30K. Out of 6 banks, one will approve them for 22% interest for 72 months. Total price with interest comes to about $50+K. They decide to do it.
 

DougK62

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Mar 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: CRXican
you people are too uptight

not eveyone is a baller and can pay cash for cars. There is nothing wrong with a 60 month loan. I'd like to see you pay a $40,000 loan in 36 months

If you can't then you probably shouldn't be buying a $40K car.
People spend crazy money on cars - I can't imagine spendiong that much on a car.

So you're saying that if you can't afford something you shouldn't buy it? Inconceivable!

 

CRXican

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Jun 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: CRXican
you people are too uptight

not eveyone is a baller and can pay cash for cars. There is nothing wrong with a 60 month loan. I'd like to see you pay a $40,000 loan in 36 months

If you can't then you probably shouldn't be buying a $40K car.
People spend crazy money on cars - I can't imagine spendiong that much on a car.

So you're saying that if you can't afford something you shouldn't buy it? Inconceivable!

duh, this is America. it's not like you really have to make the payments anyway.
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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calling shens if the OP cant even tell us what kinda of car they got and how much they paid (especially after stating they love the car and got a great deal on it)....:)

almost like starting a hot girl thread and then not posting pics...


 

Armitage

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Feb 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: CRXican
you people are too uptight

not eveyone is a baller and can pay cash for cars. There is nothing wrong with a 60 month loan. I'd like to see you pay a $40,000 loan in 36 months

If you can't then you probably shouldn't be buying a $40K car.
People spend crazy money on cars - I can't imagine spendiong that much on a car.

So you're saying that if you can't afford something you shouldn't buy it? Inconceivable!

edit -- n/m read it again with brain engaged :p