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xtknight's Chaos Theory SM1.1 vs. SM3.0 Screenshots *UPDATED* short videos added

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xtknight

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All settings turned up, with HDR under SM3.0 and anti-aliasing under SM1.1, running at a resolution of 1280x1024. By the way, these pictures were gamma-corrected to show differences. If you really want the original pictures, I'll post them. Enjoy.

http://www50.brinkster.com/xtknight/sc_sm/

Lighting effects:

DivX Video (SM1.1/AA): http://home.ripway.com/2005-4/283058/sc_sm1.1.avi
DivX Video (SM3.0/HDR): http://home.ripway.com/2005-4/283058/sc_sm3.0.avi

the game took a marginal hit when I enabled SM3.0. however, my card couldn't handle even SM1.1 with all the other settings on. both were low, but I'd say SM1.1 was about 30FPS avg. and SM3.0 about 20FPS avg. The difference was playable vs. unplayable.
 
Nice job. Those pics are big though, so big that while it was loading my music kept jumping around and stuttering. 🙂
 
Dare I say, 1.1 looks better overall because of the AA? The bridge looks horrible without AA. Next time please provide fraps in the pics. Thanks for the nice and easy viewing though.
 
Gamma is far to high for my tastes, but all the same good job on picking good locations for comparison.
 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Dare I say, 1.1 looks better overall because of the AA? The bridge looks horrible without AA. Next time please provide fraps in the pics. Thanks for the nice and easy viewing though.
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Increase the resolution to decrease aliasing 😛

Fraps is bugged in CT, it does not display the proper FPS, there is a counter that is built into the game that is accurate.
 
You gamma is way, way too high.

The difference between SM3 and 1.1 is not limited to lightning. There is a significant banding issues with 1.1 mode, and as bad as it looks on screenshot, it is significally worse in motion. Also, note the shadow.

SM 1.1

SM 3.0

It's obvious which is which 🙂

Leon

 
Is the game any good? Guess I will have to wait until I get sm3.0 to play it. :beer: Or wait for the patches. On a side note, I can't believe how well Farcry and Hl2 play, compared to how they played upon release. Really would pay if I was more patient.
 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Dare I say, 1.1 looks better overall because of the AA? The bridge looks horrible without AA. Next time please provide fraps in the pics. Thanks for the nice and easy viewing though.
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ive found fraps to hamper frame rate, i was consistently in the 20fps range 80% of the time and switching shaders didnt help

i turned fraps off and SM3 with all the triminings and 8XAF @ 12x10 is now smooth as a babies behind
 
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Dare I say, 1.1 looks better overall because of the AA? The bridge looks horrible without AA. Next time please provide fraps in the pics. Thanks for the nice and easy viewing though.
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ive found fraps to hamper frame rate, i was consistently in the 20fps range 80% of the time and switching shaders didnt help

i turned fraps off and SM3 with all the triminings and 8XAF @ 12x10 is now smooth as a babies behind
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True, It also happens to me. Only ones Fraps run correctly, I think I got out of the game with alt+tab once playing and started fraps--->return to game and it was as smooth as ussual. Not sure if I did that, but I was quite surprised.
 
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Gamma is far to high for my tastes, but all the same good job on picking good locations for comparison.
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these pictures were gamma-corrected. once taken out of the game they were pitch black, not as bright as when in the game. in the game, it looks better...

when I used print screen it used my desktop gamma so they were hardly visible. I bumped the gamma to make it easy to see differences. increasing brightness or contrast made it look like crap, so gamma was the best solution. Each set of SM1.1 and SM3.0 images had the same gamma, but other sets' gamma varied by a little.
 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Dare I say, 1.1 looks better overall because of the AA? The bridge looks horrible without AA. Next time please provide fraps in the pics. Thanks for the nice and easy viewing though.
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FRAPS has problems with the game as some users say in the forum otherwise I would have...hopefully next-gen cards will let us do AA and HDR with SM3.0 because I think the lack of AA ruined the SM3.0 shots.

Yes, I agree that some SM1.1 shots look a little better sometimes, but the SM3.0 shots are more realistic (if they had AA). This game looks better than anything I've seen in my life. Better than Half-Life 2. Probably better than Doom 3. The sky and dark clouds looked incredible and I was stunned by HDR.
 
Some of the effect of SM3 in those shots I didn't care for, but what it does for surfaces is very impressive. The 3D depth added to the street in the barrels pic and the mortar in the bricks is much better.
 
I have to admit many of the 1.1 pics looked better! :Q

But i guess overall the 3.0 was a bit better.
 
ummmmmm....Sm3.0 is faster than 1.1, but wait, you had the settings turned up didnt you? if you have SM3.0 running, but no HDR or any of it's advanced features, you will notice a peformance boost over 1.1, and a slight graphical difference.
 
Originally posted by: Leon
You gamma is way, way too high.

The difference between SM3 and 1.1 is not limited to lightning. There is a significant banding issues with 1.1 mode, and as bad as it looks on screenshot, it is significally worse in motion. Also, note the shadow.

SM 1.1

SM 3.0

It's obvious which is which 🙂

Leon
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the OP needs a faster video card than a 6800NU. and a higher res monitor

you dont need AA/AF@1680x1050 on SLI 😀
or whenever i get my 2405, 1920x1200 on SLI :thumbsup:

It certainly is nice to have the option of SM3!!
SM3 looks more realistic.
1st round knockout here boys. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: vinayb
lol... better than doom 3?? better get your eyes checked buddy
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i'm sure lots of people here would agree. guess their eyes must be bad too 😕. doom 3 looks ok but not great. the sky and water look better in chaos theory. the only thing doom3 has on chaos theory is the shadows, if that. doom3 looks fake in comparison to this. there's a difference between high contrast super lighting and reality.
 
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