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Gokuto

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Originally posted by: psiu
Do you have any extra IDE cables? I had a bad IDE cable (I think) and put one of the original cables in....I was having a similar problem...

Try swapping cables, with just one hard drive and cd drive.

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Could be a bad copy of XP though...seems kind of likely with the freezing in same place....of course you're computer not booting is a problem too.

Do you have a good powersupply?

I can try the IDE cable idea, and I'll disconnect my other drive when i'm using just one.

I'll try and get hold of another copy of XP... maybe a REAL one, and see what happens.
my power supply is a enermax 350W (EG365P-VE(FM)). come to think of it, that's not THAT great, you're saying it could possibly be lack of power?
 

Gokuto

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Originally posted by: nanaki333
assume everything is broken. so yeah. try swapping out that gf4. i always keep my old ati rage 128 and my old trident 4MB PCI. both are tanks and never tell me lies. :)

hey i used to have that same video card! i'll see if I can scavenge it and plug it in... i actually think i have an old TNT that might work.

ok, so tonight i'm going to switch out my Video, IDE cable, and use my other dvd-rom, any other suggestions?
 

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Originally posted by: Gokuto
Originally posted by: nanaki333
assume everything is broken. so yeah. try swapping out that gf4. i always keep my old ati rage 128 and my old trident 4MB PCI. both are tanks and never tell me lies. :)

hey i used to have that same video card! i'll see if I can scavenge it and plug it in... i actually think i have an old TNT that might work.

ok, so tonight i'm going to switch out my Video, IDE cable, and use my other dvd-rom, any other suggestions?

If the TNT is agp it's likely a 3.3v card and I wouldn't try booting your board with it even if the keying matches up.
 

Gokuto

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Gokuto
Originally posted by: nanaki333
assume everything is broken. so yeah. try swapping out that gf4. i always keep my old ati rage 128 and my old trident 4MB PCI. both are tanks and never tell me lies. :)

hey i used to have that same video card! i'll see if I can scavenge it and plug it in... i actually think i have an old TNT that might work.

ok, so tonight i'm going to switch out my Video, IDE cable, and use my other dvd-rom, any other suggestions?

If the TNT is agp it's likely a 3.3v card and I wouldn't try booting your board with it even if the keying matches up.

Are you saying that i might fry my mobo? alright, i'll find a PCI video card to try it out with. thanks for the warning.
 

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That's exactly right, it can fry the board and the card. Some boards have a LED on them that will turn red and the board won't boot when you put a 3.3v card in them as added protection but some others don't have any protection against it.
 

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Definitely try switching out the video card like previously mentioned. I've had the same problem before with any number of motherboards and video cards. Installing with a PCI s3-virge always solves it, at least with me.


GL,

Steve
 

Gokuto

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On a whim I decided to try and install windows 98. And wha la, 98 installed, with a couple hitches, but I managed to boot up and click around the desktop. The only issue was win98 could not locate proper drivers for my newer hardware, but it still identified and searched for drivers for my video card, on board sound, ethernet, monitor. I still had all my PCI slots empty just in case.

So, 98 installs, but win xp does not. Can I assume that it MUST be software and that my hardware is ok?
 

Gokuto

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I assume that if 98 detected my hardware correctly, then that hardware itself is OK right?
 

VirtualLarry

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Hmm, interesting thread. I actually saw what could be the same issue in person about a week ago. A friend of mine was bringing his XP computer over to another friend's house to be re-installed, and during the install, it sort of just stopped installing while it was detecting hardware, at around the 34-35min to go mark. (Or so it said.)

The hardware wasn't hard-frozen, because the sequence of colored squares in the corner was still going.

(Is that some sort of hypnotic mind-control thing, btw? Making you more suceptable to accepting the marketing pitches that pop up on the screen about how wonderful XP is when installing?)

Anyways, I told the friend that was re-installing to just leave it, but after about another 10-15 minutes it hadn't moved, and the CD-ROM light wasn't doing anything either, so we reset the machine. Let it boot up to the HD, and it automatically continued on installing and detecting hardware from that point on sucessfully.

One of the first things that it did, was flash the screen black, which may indicate that XP was detecting the video card. It was a GF2 Ti AGP, I believe. The system was a P4 2.26Ghz (533Mhz FSB), with 512 (or maybe 2x512) PC2700 memory, a Creative Labs 52X IDE CD-ROM, Seagate 40GB IDE ATA-100 HD, Intel chipset mobo. It also had a non-bootable PCI SCSI controller (I think ACard), with a Sanyo 8x SCSI CD-R drive attached.

I'm not sure what it was exactly hanging on, whether it was actually the video, or something that is attempted to be auto-detected before the video, but after resetting it, it continued on like nothing had happened. So apparently something was slightly dodgy during the hardware auto-detect sequence.

Have you tried just simply resetting the machine when this happens, and then letting it go on about it's merry way? That could be the simplest solution here.
 

Gokuto

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Hey guys, after two weeks of playing around, I finally fixed the problem.
It was actually the PCI ethernet card on my motherboard that had gone bad. I discovered this when I loaded win2000, and any attempt to enable/disable the network card caused the system to crash. I then disabled the onboard PCI ethernet card via the BIOS and managed to bypass the problem. Picked up an external PCI network card and boom, the thing works like new.

Thanks for everyone's input, you guys helped a lot. I initially didn't think that it could be hardware related but it seems like anything can go wrong. I actually didn't think that a subsection of the mobo could go bad like this, but I'm glad that I could isolate the problem.

To anyone that has this problem. I'm sure there are plenty of you. A good strategy is to assume that everything is broken, switch out all the hardware, disable sections of the motherboard vis BIOS and see if you can isolate the problem.

And just a tip, if you built your own system, don't EVER throw away old hardware... you'll NEED it...;)
 
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