XP 817778 IPV6 Networking update not working

[computer]

Here's another one I can't get any info on at any email lists, so I'm giving it a shot here.

A few days ago I installed the IPV6 Networking update on XP
Pro (KB817778). This updates the Native XP firewall to "6" I
believe. It installed without a problem, and the Native XP Firewall
still showed enabled (and it still does now). I went into "Services"
to check out some things, and the original entry for the first
firewall "Internet connection firewall (ICF)" is still running.
There is also the new entry now for "IPV6 Internet connection
firewall" which I cannot start. Every time I try and start the
service, I get: "Windows could not start the ipv6 internet
connection firewall on local computer" and "refer to error
code 2147014849". Then it says for more info check the
system event log, of which of course doesn't have JACK
about it! All it states is "The IPv6 Internet Connection
Firewall service was unable to find support for IPv6. This
may indicate that the IPv6 protocol suite is not installed
or it failed to start. The data is the error code" then that's
it!! Then in another area it has "Event 32005", and when you
click the link for more info, as usual it has NONE. ALL of the
"dependencies" for IPV6 ARE RUNNING, so there's no reason
why it shouldn't start. Of course I can't find any info on these
phrases or events at any search engine. So, I'm wondering what
the problem may be and why I cannot enable it.

I'm on 1500K DSL, use Sygate Pro Firewall, and a hardware firewall
on the DLink DI-704 router. This is the same setup I've used for years
though with the previous XP ICF, and it all worked fine before. Surfing
is all the same as it was before. I disabled Sygate and PCcillin and that
didn't help. I see many others with this issue when I tried to find it on
search engines, and of course no replies to their posts!

Thanks.

 

[computer]

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[Goosemaster]

let me get this staright.....you are trying to enable AND USE IPv6 with a DLink DI-704 router?

I'm sorry man, but I HIGHLY doubt that such a cheap device supports IPv6. As far as I know, only OS based router's support it well right now.

Sorry If I have misunderstood you, and please ellaborate if I have.

later.

 

[computer]

I don't know. I know nothing about this, that's why I posted it. I saw that M$ had the update available and after reading all about it and being positive I needed it (as I do with ALL M$ updates), I installed it. The details on the update made no mention with respect to router or type of firewall used, or anything along those lines. If you're saying that this update will only work with specific routers, then why doesn't M$ mention this?

 

[Bluestealth]

Perhaps because it dosent matter yet... the conversion to full IPv6 isnt needed right now, but very soon. It is to insure future compatibility and hopefully a smooth change over. It is true that very few routers support IPv6 atm because IPv4 is used almost everywhere. Don't worry its not Microsoft trying to be stupid this time, its just that most people don't even understand what the IPv4/IPv6 stand for, or what they mean. Its really not that important and you will probably not even notice the changeover once it hapens, except that you might have to upgrade some networking hardware. Its still a few years off, and is mainly due to the fact that more Countries are joining the internet and there is a point at which IPv4 will run out of addresses for all those computers. There are some architectural changes as well coming with IPv6 other then increasing the ammount of addresses but for the most part that isnt important. If its written correctly the system should just switch from IPv4 to IPv6 without you having to do anything, but then again we are talking about Microsoft here.

 

[Goosemaster]

For reference, any IP addresses you are using are going to be IPv4 32bit address.

192.168.0.1 in Decimal is 11000000.10101000.00000000.000000001 in Binary.

An IPv6 address is 128bits long, or about 4 times as long. It will rolled out for many reason including the fact that it will allow for more possible addresses than the IPv4 32bit address currently allow.

I am not sure about windows, but I know that Linux supports IPv6 now but it really won;t be that useful until the whole world goes IPv6 since you will need to have devices that translate these addresses once more.

 

[computer]

.....Don't worry its not Microsoft trying to be stupid this time, its just that most people don't even understand what the IPv4/IPv6 stand for,

Yeah, thank God for small miracles! LOL. But the point to my comment was that M$ should place in the "read more" links about this update, that information regarding "what the IPv4/IPv6 stands for" to eliminate the possibility of confusion or have compatibility information.

Thanks for the info. Your info is sort of what I mean about M$ putting this type of info in the update information page. I'm wondering now if I should uninstall it, and if it can cause problems if I don't.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
For reference, any IP addresses you are using are going to be IPv4 32bit address.

192.168.0.1 in Decimal is 11000000.10101000.00000000.000000001 in Binary.

An IPv6 address is 128bits long, or about 4 times as long. It will rolled out for many reason including the fact that it will allow for more possible addresses than the IPv4 32bit address currently allow.

I am not sure about windows, but I know that Linux supports IPv6 now but it really won;t be that useful until the whole world goes IPv6 since you will need to have devices that translate these addresses once more.

Thanks for the reply. Well, I would think Windows should support IPV6 since M$ has it for download at the XP update site, right?

 

[computer]

Hello?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Windows supports it. Not sure how well though.

 

[computer]

Thanks. I'm about to get a Westell 6100 from my ISP, maybe that will support IPV6. BellSouth is sending it to me free. It claims the "next generation in DSLx and xDSL technology". It has a router built in. (That also brings up the question; I've been wondering if I can still use my same router, or if I'll have to get a hub or switch since they say as the modem is you can't share a connection, they say you need a "hub" or "switch". That doesn't sound like a "ROUTER" to me).

 

[Aves]

Originally posted by: computer
Thanks. I'm about to get a Westell 6100 from my ISP, maybe that will support IPV6. BellSouth is sending it to me free. It claims the "next generation in DSLx and xDSL technology". It has a router built in. (That also brings up the question; I've been wondering if I can still use my same router, or if I'll have to get a hub or switch since they say as the modem is you can't share a connection, they say you need a "hub" or "switch". That doesn't sound like a "ROUTER" to me).

The Westell 6100 is a router, it just has a single ethernet port. You will need a hub/switch if you plan to use more than one PC with it but it's still a router.

6100datasheet.pdf

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: aves2k

Originally posted by: computer
Thanks. I'm about to get a Westell 6100 from my ISP, maybe that will support IPV6. BellSouth is sending it to me free. It claims the "next generation in DSLx and xDSL technology". It has a router built in. (That also brings up the question; I've been wondering if I can still use my same router, or if I'll have to get a hub or switch since they say as the modem is you can't share a connection, they say you need a "hub" or "switch". That doesn't sound like a "ROUTER" to me).

The Westell 6100 is a router, it just has a single ethernet port. You will need a hub/switch if you plan to use more than one PC with it but it's still a router.

6100datasheet.pdf

yeah..and scratch IPv6...forget about it...it is of no use to you.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: aves2k

Originally posted by: computer
Thanks. I'm about to get a Westell 6100 from my ISP, maybe that will support IPV6. BellSouth is sending it to me free. It claims the "next generation in DSLx and xDSL technology". It has a router built in. (That also brings up the question; I've been wondering if I can still use my same router, or if I'll have to get a hub or switch since they say as the modem is you can't share a connection, they say you need a "hub" or "switch". That doesn't sound like a "ROUTER" to me).

The Westell 6100 is a router, it just has a single ethernet port. You will need a hub/switch if you plan to use more than one PC with it but it's still a router.

6100datasheet.pdf

Thanks. It's router AND a modem. So do you know if I would still be able to use my current DI-704 router with it? Their PDF's are very confusing since they have 3 different PDF's for the 6100. This is a couple of them.
Another link
Another link
It's also listed under "ProLine" AND "LiteLine". So I don't guess I'll know what it is until it arrives!
Thanks for the info.

 

[computer]

yeah..and scratch IPv6...forget about it...it is of no use to you.

The one thing I noticed after installing it was that I was able to pass the ping test at GRC.com . Before I couldn't, my PC was pingable by it. Now it's not. Yet under "services", like I said it can't be enabled. I'd still like to know why M$ claims you need it, (and can install it) at their update site if it requires special hardware. That's really asinine. But when has M$ not been!