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Xoom and Atrix are both sales flop, who isn't surprised?

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Atrix is a victim of very, very poor marketing. Even if they gave the laptop dock away for free it still wouldn't be a huge selling point. If they were smart they would push how powerful the phone is, and then mention the dock as an accesory. All the reviews I've seen seem to come to the same conclusion, clearly the phone demolishes the competition, but they spend the majority of the review talking about how it isn't very good as a laptop replacement. Moto set themselves up for this one, they had someone truly ignorant in charge of marketing the device.

the atrix is a premium and it doesn't deliver with its stupid skin.
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For general users, what is stupid about the skin?

The inspire 4g actually feels faster than the atrix
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Curious where I can get the mods that do that to the Inspire, I'm assuming it's around a 4GHZ OC on the core? The Inspire I have here is utterly demolished by the Atrix sitting next to it, particularly the one running stock 1.57 Blur.

The Atrix is sort of a mess, why in the heck would anyone buy a phone/expansion system that costs as much or more than a phone and an inexpensive notebook?
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That's the type of question I see frequently and represents what the sheep see from the marketing lines. Moto did this to themselves. Put the Atrix as a phone against anything else out right now(including the TBolt) for any non modder the Atrix is pretty convincingly the best Android device out. Put it up against a Netbook or Laptop and it clearly isn't there. If anything I think they should have pushed the Media Dock, that is something that isn't replicated in its' price range.
 
MrChad said:
That still doesn't excuse the fact that Android 3.0 was incredibly buggy and essentially beta-quality code out of the gate. And it doesn't excuse the fact that there is still a severe lack of killer apps for the platform.

The announcement of the iPad 2 essentially made the Xoom dead on arrival. Even if you ignore the fact that the iPad 2 was priced competitively and offered a more stable, 2nd generation platform, the market hype around Apple buried anything that Motorola had to offer. The only Android-based tablet ads I see on TV are for the Galaxy tablets.

I think with a better pricing and marketing strategy, Xoom could have had a much better start. There's still a lot of potential left in the product, though; we'll just have to see if Motorola can turn it around.
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The apps will come, there are a ton of developers, but they can't be too excited about writing for the XOOM with it's buggy OS and poor sales.
 
Deeko said:
The biggest issue I see with Motorola is their marketing. Tech geeks like to complain about skins and bootloaders, but the average person couldn't care less. The Droid line sold so well because Verizon marketed it. Without Verizon's Droid campaign, they've been mediocore.
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I've seen way more Atrix commercials than Thunderbolt commercials.
 
The name 'Xoom' certainly didn't do it any favors either. Sounds like something you'd buy your kid to play with in the yard with while making car noises.
 
ew915 said:
Xoom and Atrix are both sales flop, who isn't surprised?
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Impossible, just last night a highly believable guy on TV told me the Atrix was a phone that is also a computer. With such a high tech marketing strategy it cannot possibly flop...
 
The Atrix isn't a bad phone, but as people have shown time and time again, price does matter, and Motorola absolutely dropped the ball with both products in that regard.
 
The name 'Xoom' certainly didn't do it any favors either.
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While I'm no fan of the Xoom name, I'd say on an initial basis it sounded a *LOT* better then the new and improved feminine hygene product naming some other company used for a tablet 😉
 
I loved my RAZR. It's thin form-factor rocked.

The iPad was able to charge a high price b/c it was first and created the market. To grab market share, Android tablets need to market the hell on why they're better/different or be much lower in price to gain market share. No companies are doing either.

Every time I go to Costco, you see the Xoom display fully stocked.

In regards to the Atrix, outside of the small minority, no one cares about smartphone computing power or locked OS. They want someone that's cool, easy to use and has apps that they want to use.
 
BenSkywalker said:
While I'm no fan of the Xoom name, I'd say on an initial basis it sounded a *LOT* better then the new and improved feminine hygene product naming some other company used for a tablet 😉
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And Apple is laughing to the bank with the iPad that all the haters predicted was going to be a flop.
 
MotionMan said:
LOL. They can't beat the iPhone 3GS?!?

WhoTF is still buying "new" 3GS's?

MotionMan
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I picked one up used only to play back netflix on my wifi. The battery life blows away my Samsung Vibrant. The 3gs is still a very viable phone if only for battery life.
 
Pliablemoose said:
Moto screwed up, with the Xoom, the SD should have been enabled before it was put on the market, they should have stuck with a 16GB device, priced it at $499 (WiFi) $599 (3G/4G) and it would have sold a lot better.

They could have played off the "It's got expandable memory and it's the same price as the iPad."

I would have bought one.

The Atrix is sort of a mess, why in the heck would anyone buy a phone/expansion system that costs as much or more than a phone and an inexpensive notebook?

Does anyone at Moto think before they set prices?

I think Moto has the engineering/software nearly down, but they really don't have a handle on what is a fair market price for their stuff.

We'll see a bit of consolidation in the manufacturers as a result of the iPad, and Android phones are getting cheaper...
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Yep this is absolutely the truth... I just bought an iPad 2 this week, and I was standing at the register with the option to buy a Moto Xoom Wifi w/ 32GB for $599 or an iPad Wifi w/ 16GB for $449(Open box)... I wanted to side with Android, I really really did... but I couldn't justify spending $150 bucks more for basically equivalent technology just because I dislike Apple.

If I had the option to buy a Xoom wifi w/16GB and a working SD card slot for $499? or a Xoom 4G w/16GB for $599... I'd have a Xoom instead of an iPad.
 
The Moto XOOM felt like a beta tablet. It was sitting next to an iPad1 and it could barely keep up with a year old tablet.

The XOOM crashed, was slow, stuttery. The build quality was great, but the screen sucked big time. The screen looked like a crappy TN panel next to the iPad1. Forget about the iPad2.
 
I would say that price is the biggest con of the Xoom compared to the somewhat beta software (Google stuff in beta... never 😉). People don't necessarily compare options... you think, "I can get an iPad for $499 or a Xoom for $799" (there are cheaper Xoom options now of course). It's 60% more expensive and for most users, they won't get anything out of the extra features. The release of the WiFi version is a start, but it honestly should have came at launch if anything.

Capt Caveman said:
People that want a cheap smartphone that runs any iPhone app and pretty much does anything any other phone can do. Why do I want an Atrix?
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$50 is also a fairly reasonable price (if you don't mind the necessary data plan) for an average phone. I recall paying $50 (with contract) for my first Samsung "dumbphone". If I could have got something like an iPhone 3GS instead for the same price back then... yes plz!
 
I am with the others. I blame this fully on poor marketing for the atrix and even worse pricing on the Xoom. Motorola tried to make a premium on the Xoom and it is going to fail due to this. I see the Asus which is oh $200-300 cheaper is likely to sell a LOT more than the Xoom ever will.

Edit: I see the Xoom is now a little bit cheaper... but it is still too expensive. And TBH, most people like myself checked the price and wrote it off instantly and never looked again to see other cheaper versions.
 
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This news makes me very sad. I absolutely LOVE the concept of the Atrix- a phone that is my computer. I have long seen what it offered as a great future.

My problem is the raw power of the device. If I am going to do laptop/desktop functions no cell CPU on the market can cut it. I need the kind of CPUs we will see in 2013- 2+GHz quad core models.

But my hope was that enough people bought the Atrix so that the concept wouldn't die. Sigh...
 
Xoom - overpriced crap

Atrix:
1) It's on AT&T
2) A lot of the geeks that bought smartphones are on contract from buying other droids, EVO, etc
3) It's on AT&T
 
JS80 said:
Xoom - overpriced crap

Atrix:
1) It's on AT&T
2) A lot of the geeks that bought smartphones are on contract from buying other droids, EVO, etc
3) It's on AT&T
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+1

The problem with the Atrix is you have to deal with AT&T's terrible network. When you take into account the fact the speeds have been capped, no unlimited data plan for new users, and the fact that you can not side-load applications (think Amazon Market), the device becomes lackluster at best. I believe when the Verizon version launches (Bionic), they device will get a lot more support.

The Xoom has potential, but it needs to have the price lowered at bit first.
 
If the Atrix hit Verizon and used its LTE network, I guarantee you it would be selling in hordes. As it stands no one wants to buy the Atrix on AT&T because everyone on AT&T already has an iPhone.
 
In my area AT&T has a very good network. (am I lucky?) Plus work discount plus them not ripping me off every month.

Verizon I was suppose to get 25% Military discount. Every month it was still not on my bill. For the same level of service my bill was always over $110. On AT&T one year later (got sick of just skype house phone) pay $58 a month for unlimited data and 450 mins. (I never use them all) AND I get rollover mins! Now to be fair my current job gives me 30% off but still Verizon would still have been more expensive.

That said I was kinda sad when the Droid X came out and the best I could get was the Samsung Captivate. (my current phone)
 
DLeRium said:
But the RAZR was what saturated the American market because it was the only phone out there. I remember TONS of featurephones being far better than the RAZR. I just thought it was a joke that everyone had one.
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Owning the RAZR was a status symbol for people, just like the iPhone is today.
 
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