XFX 7850 DD (non-black edition) or wait for HIS 7850 IceQ X...or

[akbg]

XFX 7850 DD (non-black edition) or HIS 7850 IceQ X
Hi guys,
witch one to choose?

XFX Radeon HD 7850 Double D 860MHZ 2GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI 2XMINIDP PCI-E Video Card
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70...anufacture=XFX

or

HIS 7850 IceQ X 2GB GDDR5 PCI-E DVI/HDMI/2xMini DP (is not available yet in Canada)
http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product2-690.shtml

I now that both are similar in term of performance, but I'm looking also low levels of noise, temperatures and power consumption FXF is with 2x pins (and good quality for sure).

Is it worth to wait for HIS release, seems like it is very quiet and cool, or XFX is also cool and quiet (life time warranty)...

I found also [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ASUS Radeon HD 7850 [/FONT]HD7850-DC2-2GD5
and now it`s really hard to choose.

Gigabyte has also 2 fans edition ....

Thanks

 

[Silverforce11]

HIS single fan gets pretty hot if you OC it high.

I can't find any relevant vcore OC info for the XFX but its the same pcb and cooling as the 7870, so it should really handle a 7850 very well. I was going to get it due to these factors, but my mITX rig need a smaller card for a good fit.

 

[Jaydip]

OP what about ASUS DC II 7850?Is it available?

 

[akbg]

HIS single fan gets pretty hot if you OC it high.

but this is IceQ 7850 version, still hard to find in retails

 

[Don Karnage]

Asus. Avoid XFX with a passion. HIS also sucks.

 

[akbg]

Asus. Avoid XFX with a passion. HIS also sucks.

last minute update:

Sapphire Radeon HD7850 Overclocked Edition 2GB 256bit GDDR5 PCI-E Video Card

$251

 

[Upgrade_Itch]

last minute update:

Sapphire Radeon HD7850 Overclocked Edition 2GB 256bit GDDR5 PCI-E Video Card

$251

thats a decent card.

 

[Soulkeeper]

HIS ICEQ coolers are good in my experience.

as far as which card is better ... I wouldn't listen much to people that say "XYZ SUCKS"
buy whichever you like.

my old ICEQ cooler on a radeon 3870 is better than the cooler on most 7850 cards these days.
I tried to swap it onto my 7850 yesterday, but AMD has rotated the die 45 degress

 

[Freddy1765]

MSI TF III is also a viable option. It's my understanding it's pretty much identical to Sapphire in terms of OC potential/cooling/noise.

 

[zettler]

As I need to find one of these cards for my son, and you have presented viable options, how about (anyone) providing links to where they are available at the best prices (as of right now)????

With regard to XFX, my sons current gaming PC has a XFX Radeon HD4890 and we did our first RMA just over two weeks ago. XFX got it fixed and out the door in under eight days. However, they sent it fedex "Smart Post" and the FEDEX container with it in it has been sitting in St. Louis for EIGHT DAYS!! It isnt XFX fault but fedex...

End of rant.

 

[Don Karnage]

HIS ICEQ coolers are good in my experience.

as far as which card is better ... I wouldn't listen much to people that say "XYZ SUCKS"
buy whichever you like.

my old ICEQ cooler on a radeon 3870 is better than the cooler on most 7850 cards these days.
I tried to swap it onto my 7850 yesterday, but AMD has rotated the die 45 degress

Do yourself a favor and google XFX horror stories and you'll see the reason why i say avoid them

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1511449

There are tons more. Go over to overclock and take a look

 

[tornadog]

last minute update:

Sapphire Radeon HD7850 Overclocked Edition 2GB 256bit GDDR5 PCI-E Video Card

$251

is that in stock. Can u pm me the link. I am in the market for one too, thanks

 

[zettler]

Do yourself a favor and google XFX horror stories and you'll see the reason why i say avoid them

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1511449

There are tons more. Go over to overclock and take a look

Don.

I understand. And sorry to sidetrack but I only build a new one about ever 1.5-2 years for my son and then I get his old one - if it still works! You guys are in it all the time and this was my first RMA too.

In fact I just checked fedex and see it took TWO WEEKS for them to get it to our local post office and then it will be another two days for them to deliver. I won't be surprised if Tom Hanks delivers the package...

Date/Time Activity Location Details

May 8, 2012 10:16 AM At U.S. Postal Service facility CHATHAM, IL Arrived at local Post Office -Allow one to two additional days for delivery

May 8, 2012 12:00 AM Shipment information sent to U.S. Postal Service

May 7, 2012 5:36 PM Arrived at FedEx location FEDEX SMARTPOST EARTH CITY, MO

Apr 28, 2012 3:50 AM Departed FedEx location FEDEX SMARTPOST KANSAS CITY, KS

Apr 27, 2012 6:49 PM Arrived at FedEx location FEDEX SMARTPOST KANSAS CITY, KS

Apr 27, 2012 2:43 AM Departed FedEx location LENEXA, KS

Apr 26, 2012 9:41 PM Arrived at FedEx location LENEXA, KS

Apr 26, 2012 1:18 AM In transit HENDERSON, CO

Apr 25, 2012 6:01 AM Departed FedEx location BLOOMINGTON, CA

Apr 25, 2012 12:51 AM Arrived at FedEx location BLOOMINGTON, CA

Apr 24, 2012 4:46 PM Picked up BLOOMINGTON, CA

Apr 24, 2012 3:50 PM Shipment information sent to FedEx

 

[Soulkeeper]

Do yourself a favor and google XFX horror stories and you'll see the reason why i say avoid them

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1511449

There are tons more. Go over to overclock and take a look

You could say the same about ford, chevy, cheetos, etc.

the problem with your condemnation of a particular company is you become a one man crusade.
You mentioned xfx I still have a working xfx card that's nearly 10yrs old or so
the recent phoronix review I saw of the xfx 7xxx radeon was favorable.

Not everyone will share the same results, the people with problems just tend to be louder in my experience.

 

[blastingcap]

You could say the same about ford, chevy, cheetos, etc.

the problem with your condemnation of a particular company is you become a one man crusade.
You mentioned xfx I still have a working xfx card that's nearly 10yrs old or so
the recent phoronix review I saw of the xfx 7xxx radeon was favorable.

Not everyone will share the same results, the people with problems just tend to be louder in my experience.

XFX DD cooling really does suck. This is for 7970/50 but probably applies to 7870/50 too: http://www.hardware.fr/articles/853...950-asus-his-msi-powercolor-sapphire-xfx.html

Check out the overclocked temps: 108 degrees C? Seriously? Even in performance fan mode it's 100C. http://www.hardware.fr/articles/853-12/xfx-radeon-hd-7950-double-dissipation-test.html

HIS is usually crappy-to-mediocre but sometimes they actually take the effort to make a decent cooler, albeit for a premium: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5691/...w-his-7870-iceq-turbo-powercolor-pcs-hd7870/5

 

[SMOGZINN]

HIS is usually crappy-to-mediocre but sometimes they actually take the effort to make a decent cooler, albeit for a premium: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5691/...w-his-7870-iceq-turbo-powercolor-pcs-hd7870/5

$40 is a pretty big premium for that better heatsink.

HIS 7850 IceQ $260

HIS H785F2G2M $220

Is it really worth it?

 

[blastingcap]

$40 is a pretty big premium for that better heatsink.

HIS 7850 IceQ $260

HIS H785F2G2M $220

Is it really worth it?

Imho, no. I would get the cheapest well cooled version I could find, whether that is Sapphire OC Edition (dual fan)/Atomic/Toxic, ASUS DirectCUII, MSI Twin FrozrIII/Lightning, or HIS IceQ Turbo. Maybe also Gigabyte Windforce but I have not researched that one as much.

 

[Upgrade_Itch]

You could say the same about ford, chevy, cheetos, etc.

the problem with your condemnation of a particular company is you become a one man crusade.
You mentioned xfx I still have a working xfx card that's nearly 10yrs old or so
the recent phoronix review I saw of the xfx 7xxx radeon was favorable.

Not everyone will share the same results, the people with problems just tend to be louder in my experience.

Don't condemn the forum member. He is doing his best to advise another, XFX still makes excellent power supplies but their video card cooling has dropped the ball in recent years. Read reviews comparing XFX versions of vid cards opposed to others. Heat is the enemy to an overclocker, and for a stable running environment.

 

[bigsnyder]

Asus, Sapphire, MSI. Stick with those three if possible.

 

[jmgamer]

Imho, no. I would get the cheapest well cooled version I could find, whether that is Sapphire OC Edition (dual fan)/Atomic/Toxic, ASUS DirectCUII, MSI Twin FrozrIII/Lightning, or HIS IceQ Turbo. Maybe also Gigabyte Windforce but I have not researched that one as much.

Seen one professional review and newegg reviews of the gigabyte 7850 which state some issues of rattling fans or loose shroud shaking.

Not everyone gets this though, and some have fixed the issue themselves by jimmying something next to where it's rattling. Only issue i see of it. I would avoid personally, as I like brand new stuff to just work.

 

[Rambusted]

I am currently using an XFX 6870, as you know this is not a chipset known for producing lots of heat. I use a 1360x768 lcd tv and the card plays anything I throw at it with ease. But even at that low resolution the card runs hot, if I turn up the AA it runs exceedingly hot. I have seen temps as high as 91c during Bad Co. 2 gaming and my ambient temps in this room are only 65f to 70f. I have intake and exhaust fans and my case is perfectly clean and dust free. I do not overclock. My last card was a 4870 from visiontek, that chipset was notoriously hot and it still ran way cooler than this xfx. I wouldnt buy another xfx personally.

 

[postmortemIA]

I am currently using an XFX 6870, as you know this is not a chipset known for producing lots of heat. I use a 1360x768 lcd tv and the card plays anything I throw at it with ease. But even at that low resolution the card runs hot, if I turn up the AA it runs exceedingly hot. I have seen temps as high as 91c during Bad Co. 2 gaming and my ambient temps in this room are only 65f to 70f. I have intake and exhaust fans and my case is perfectly clean and dust free. I do not overclock. My last card was a 4870 from visiontek, that chipset was notoriously hot and it still ran way cooler than this xfx. I wouldnt buy another xfx personally.

Wow ! There is something worse than 4870 and it is not from nvidia