Originally posted by: topaz22
thats just it, i couldn't find a up to date changelog...
didn't really expect much, but moreso was just bored at work. the new mouse pointers are kindy annoying, tho.
Good question. I've not seen the new version, and am not feeling too ambitious about compiling it right now. What makes them different?Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
how are the pointers different?Originally posted by: topaz22
thats just it, i couldn't find a up to date changelog...
didn't really expect much, but moreso was just bored at work. the new mouse pointers are kindy annoying, tho.
I guess we have different definitions of what "fake" transparency is. Let me try to explain better: what KDE does, AFAIK, is to take a mini-screenshot of what's under a menu before it opens; then, it uses CPU power to blend the screenshot it just took with an image of the menu. This is then shown on the screen. "Transparent" terminals don't do this; instead, they capture an image of the background (root window?) image, and blend the terminal contents with that (in software, again). That is why it's so slow, and that's why when a terminal is over another window, the other window doesn't show through the terminal.Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
and KDE (which does nice transparent menus) both use fake transparency; the stuff looks good in screenshots, but it isn't true transparency (open up a Konqueror, load a page that has an animated GIF near the top, then open a semitransparent menu over the GIF, and you'll see what I mean).
actually IIRC kde has real transparency, at least it shows windows and stuff underneath it. everything else just shows the wallpaper. does windows alpha blend on top of animation?
Originally posted by: jliechty
I guess we have different definitions of what "fake" transparency is. Let me try to explain better: what KDE does, AFAIK, is to take a mini-screenshot of what's under a menu before it opens; then, it uses CPU power to blend the screenshot it just took with an image of the menu. This is then shown on the screen. "Transparent" terminals don't do this; instead, they capture an image of the background (root window?) image, and blend the terminal contents with that (in software, again). That is why it's so slow, and that's why when a terminal is over another window, the other window doesn't show through the terminal.Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
and KDE (which does nice transparent menus) both use fake transparency; the stuff looks good in screenshots, but it isn't true transparency (open up a Konqueror, load a page that has an animated GIF near the top, then open a semitransparent menu over the GIF, and you'll see what I mean).
actually IIRC kde has real transparency, at least it shows windows and stuff underneath it. everything else just shows the wallpaper. does windows alpha blend on top of animation?
Windows has what I prefer to call "True" transparency. Example: I can take any one of the many freeware utilities that can make windows transparent (via a selection from an option in the context menu for the title bar) to make the Task Manager transparent (the task manager will always stay on top of other windows). Then, I can position the Task Manager over a web browser, so the page display area is slightly obscured; when I scroll the page up and down, the part that is "under" the Task manager will show through, and be updated in real time. Try this with a "transparent" terminal set to be always-on-top over a web browser in the *NIX OS of your choice, with XFree86, and it won't work the same way.
I thought they are alpha blended or something...just something i heard.Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Originally posted by: topaz22
thats just it, i couldn't find a up to date changelog...
didn't really expect much, but moreso was just bored at work. the new mouse pointers are kindy annoying, tho.
how are the pointers different?
Originally posted by: manly
I don't know what it's being called, but I seem to recall configuration as being heavily revamped. For example, you can now modify the configuration (namely XF86Config) and have the changes dynamically take effect, rather than having to completely restart the X server. As usual, it's best to wait for your distro to merge in XF86 4.3.0 than to do it manually.
Originally posted by: Haden
It's a bit offtopic, but I wanted to ask:
Do you experience flicker when resizing multimedia (xine, mplayer) windows (what I mean with "Flicker" is either blue window->next video frame rapidly refreshes if I'm using XV, if it's X11 - it just seems like output is not double buffered (thought I force -double with mplayer)).
No big deal actually, but it's weird. With all multimedia programs I made for win trick was to double buffer all controls etc. to avoid this, I'm interested is this programs, Xfree or drivers fault in X.
how are the pointers different?
Wow, real time resolution changing is done already? I thought that I was going to have to wait until XFree86 v5 for that! :QOriginally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
yeah, thats the RANDR extension, you can change screen size (and in turn resolution) and refresh rates without a restart. i'm looking forward to checking it out.Originally posted by: manly
I don't know what it's being called, but I seem to recall configuration as being heavily revamped. For example, you can now modify the configuration (namely XF86Config) and have the changes dynamically take effect, rather than having to completely restart the X server. As usual, it's best to wait for your distro to merge in XF86 4.3.0 than to do it manually.
Wow, sounds sorta cool - except for the red part. Hopefully the pointers can be changed back to the default black. Do you know if this is done on XFree86's part, or if this is an effect of the WM / DE? An article I read tended to indicate that the latest GNOME that was included with RH 8.1 was the cause behind the new pointers.Originally posted by: topaz22
They(as in the set of default ones) are red, there's a dropshadow, they are partially translucent, and there seem to be more variations for actions (on the edge of a window, on the corner, the hourglass type thing, etc)how are the pointers different?
Ah, thanks for explaining. So, if the cursors are really just a font, I wonder when we'll get anti-aliased mouse pointers?Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
yeah, you can always change them. i'm sure they should have a black set (they better!)
AFAIK applications can't change the cursor to their own. x uses a "font" for the cursor, there is a set number of different cursors (for different actions, regular cursor, stopwatch, precision select, etc etc), and the apps can only choose from them by name. basically, similar to windows. you can change the cursor font and thus change all of your cursors, you can even make your own with a font editor.
Originally posted by: jliechty
Gah, I'm just going to download binaries; this is just a beta, right? I'll compile from source when the official 4.3 gets released.![]()