Capt Caveman
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Intel should revise thier Xeon line. They would create a massive wave (Like opteron) of revenue in a hurry, if they just downclocked the Conroe. Allendales are good chips. Mine has proven its worth with a 3.5GHz OC. I just want that 4mb cache for e-penis reasons. 
Now that that has been said. I've been thinking about selling my E6400 and getting a Xeon 3050 or 3060.
Now that that has been said. I've been thinking about selling my E6400 and getting a Xeon 3050 or 3060.
i want one! need to see more results from others. C2D is already doing well on stock voltage. so im wondering if this is worth it.
wow, my E6400 does 3.6Ghz, so is this 3040 going to hit 4Ghz at least ???
someone gotta test it out.
someone gotta test it out.
AndreYang, a very well respected overclocker on XS.org and other forums has a 3050 and reports it as 2MB L2
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=119769
He even has a picture of the processor showing 2M
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=119769
He even has a picture of the processor showing 2M
The 3050 shows up as a E6400 because that is what it is, just more L2 cache. CPUID hasn't added the 3000 series Xeons yet
Capt Caveman
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The 3040 and 3050 only have 2mb L2 Cache. Intel doesn't know what it's talking about since different Intel links list both 2mb and 4mb. Looking at Newegg, they list the 3040 with 4mb L2 Cache but only 2mb L2 Cache for the 3050 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi...+1050922263&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=343
It's already been confirmed from individuals already that have the cpus that there's only 2mb L2 Cache. Obviously, Intel has their documentation/specs messed-up.
It's already been confirmed from individuals already that have the cpus that there's only 2mb L2 Cache. Obviously, Intel has their documentation/specs messed-up.
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Intel should revise thier Xeon line. They would create a massive wave (Like opteron) of revenue in a hurry, if they just downclocked the Conroe. Allendales are good chips. Mine has proven its worth with a 3.5GHz OC. I just want that 4mb cache for e-penis reasons.
Now that that has been said. I've been thinking about selling my E6400 and getting a Xeon 3050 or 3060.
you have a conroe, allendales aren't being released until q1 2007, theyre the e4300's I believe, the e64 and e6300 are just conroes with half the l2 cache disabled. and yeah with a little effort and decent ram I could see 4ghz on mine, currently limited by my ram to 3.8+ish I need a vcore mod to get stable up there tho 1.6 doesn't do it and 1.8 makes me laugh at the 70-80 degree core temps. (as I understand it 1.6vcore is the dead max on air neways.)
hey harpy you run 4-5-4-15 stable at 3.5? mine doesn't quite pull it. gets an error after finishing the first test i believe, and a few errors in memtest as well. I have my (4-5-4-15) running at 5-5-5-15. if you got yours stable you wanna send me a memset ss so I can try out your timings.
I still think the 3040/3050 are 2mb BUT newegg just updated their page last night to say the 3050 has 2mb to haveing 4mb this morning?
Sound liek there are gonna be a lot of "open" box sells on these.
Of course this would be a good time to order some of them and test them out. If they don't clock any higher then you have a real good reason to return for a 100% refund.
Sound liek there are gonna be a lot of "open" box sells on these.
Of course this would be a good time to order some of them and test them out. If they don't clock any higher then you have a real good reason to return for a 100% refund.
What do you mean allendales aren't coming out til Q1 2007? I have one in my computer...
Please explain..
Mike
Please explain..
Mike
Originally posted by: sanitydc
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Intel should revise thier Xeon line. They would create a massive wave (Like opteron) of revenue in a hurry, if they just downclocked the Conroe. Allendales are good chips. Mine has proven its worth with a 3.5GHz OC. I just want that 4mb cache for e-penis reasons.
Now that that has been said. I've been thinking about selling my E6400 and getting a Xeon 3050 or 3060.
you have a conroe, allendales aren't being released until q1 2007, theyre the e4300's I believe, the e64 and e6300 are just conroes with half the l2 cache disabled. and yeah with a little effort and decent ram I could see 4ghz on mine, currently limited by my ram to 3.8+ish I need a vcore mod to get stable up there tho 1.6 doesn't do it and 1.8 makes me laugh at the 70-80 degree core temps. (as I understand it 1.6vcore is the dead max on air neways.)
Forgot to quote... That might help!
Mike
Originally posted by: sanitydc
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Intel should revise thier Xeon line. They would create a massive wave (Like opteron) of revenue in a hurry, if they just downclocked the Conroe. Allendales are good chips. Mine has proven its worth with a 3.5GHz OC. I just want that 4mb cache for e-penis reasons.
Now that that has been said. I've been thinking about selling my E6400 and getting a Xeon 3050 or 3060.
you have a conroe, allendales aren't being released until q1 2007, theyre the e4300's I believe, the e64 and e6300 are just conroes with half the l2 cache disabled. and yeah with a little effort and decent ram I could see 4ghz on mine, currently limited by my ram to 3.8+ish I need a vcore mod to get stable up there tho 1.6 doesn't do it and 1.8 makes me laugh at the 70-80 degree core temps. (as I understand it 1.6vcore is the dead max on air neways.)
E6300 and E6400 ARE allendale.
Originally posted by: stevty2889
Originally posted by: sanitydc
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Intel should revise thier Xeon line. They would create a massive wave (Like opteron) of revenue in a hurry, if they just downclocked the Conroe. Allendales are good chips. Mine has proven its worth with a 3.5GHz OC. I just want that 4mb cache for e-penis reasons.
Now that that has been said. I've been thinking about selling my E6400 and getting a Xeon 3050 or 3060.
you have a conroe, allendales aren't being released until q1 2007, theyre the e4300's I believe, the e64 and e6300 are just conroes with half the l2 cache disabled. and yeah with a little effort and decent ram I could see 4ghz on mine, currently limited by my ram to 3.8+ish I need a vcore mod to get stable up there tho 1.6 doesn't do it and 1.8 makes me laugh at the 70-80 degree core temps. (as I understand it 1.6vcore is the dead max on air neways.)
E6300 and E6400 ARE allendale.
show me one statement EVER or a product white paper or a pdf presentation on the development of it that say its an allendale. CPUZ dubbed it the allendale, the media dubbed it the allendale, but intel... nope. allendale doesnt come out till january bud.
Intel has corrected their product page that NewEgg referred to. I also spoke with NewEgg... and for assisting them with correcting Intel, and Their Page... They Gave me a $50.00 Credit for sorting it all out. NewEgg has fixed their Page also.
Further Update Intel gave me mis information last week, and they are really not good at Customer Support. How they had Conflicting documemntation on their web site really gets me mad... mostly because it is details like that that causes Litigation. And how a Controlled Document Could get out there without oversight....
Anyway... I bought a Xeon 3060 and sold my e6600 stepping on this one is : L629A788
I'm going to wait a day or two before wrenching on it ... but I'll start a Forum Review Thread and maybe we can get some others posting their results....
Sorry For Any Confusion I may have caused... but I was being fed bad info also.
So ok i am still confused.
the 3040 has 2mb cache on newegg now, and the 3050 has 4mb cache (even though most of the intel sites say 2mb now).
i mean , if its 3040=e6300, 3050=e6400, 3060=e6600 then i'd not be confused, and that was what i originally thought it was.
did newegg just not update the 3050 page and only update the 3040 page?
the 3040 has 2mb cache on newegg now, and the 3050 has 4mb cache (even though most of the intel sites say 2mb now).
i mean , if its 3040=e6300, 3050=e6400, 3060=e6600 then i'd not be confused, and that was what i originally thought it was.
did newegg just not update the 3050 page and only update the 3040 page?
ok...there still seems to be some confusion as to if the Xeon 3050 has 4mb L2 cache or not
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819117103
(as newegg still is showing that it does have 4mb L2 at the time of this posting)
what has happened is that Intel had a misprint on their website that showed the two lower-end socket 775 3040 and 3050 Intel Xeon Conroe CPUs as having a 4mb L2 cache the same as the 3060 and 3070
(as seen captured here > http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=74314 )
...and this is where newegg got their information from....this has now been corrected on the Intel website, and the 3040 and 3050 Xeon CPUs now show that they really do only have a 2mb shared L2 cache
...I'm guessing that further confusion was caused when people contacted Intel to ask about this, and either the Intel representatives used this same misprinted information, or they gave information about the socket 771 Woodcrest Intel 5000 series Xeon CPUs
and to show proof that the 3050 Xeon does indeed really have 2mb L2 cache,
here is a screenie of CPU-Z with a 3050 > http://i13.tinypic.com/2mrz21y.jpg <
now there are differences between the socket 775 Xeon 3000's and the normal Conroe/Allendales:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819117103
(as newegg still is showing that it does have 4mb L2 at the time of this posting)
what has happened is that Intel had a misprint on their website that showed the two lower-end socket 775 3040 and 3050 Intel Xeon Conroe CPUs as having a 4mb L2 cache the same as the 3060 and 3070
(as seen captured here > http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=74314 )
...and this is where newegg got their information from....this has now been corrected on the Intel website, and the 3040 and 3050 Xeon CPUs now show that they really do only have a 2mb shared L2 cache
...I'm guessing that further confusion was caused when people contacted Intel to ask about this, and either the Intel representatives used this same misprinted information, or they gave information about the socket 771 Woodcrest Intel 5000 series Xeon CPUs
and to show proof that the 3050 Xeon does indeed really have 2mb L2 cache,
here is a screenie of CPU-Z with a 3050 > http://i13.tinypic.com/2mrz21y.jpg <
now there are differences between the socket 775 Xeon 3000's and the normal Conroe/Allendales:
So is that saying that the Xeon actually performs differently from an equivalently clocked Core 2? It would be nice to see some benchmarks confirming that.
Well, 10% would be relatively significant if it's that much. I doubt their average overclocking potential differs by more than that.
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