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XBox vs PS2 (Gamecube NOT an option)

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More ranting analysis, bleh!

<<its funny how people will tell you that its all a matter of personal taste but will also slam xbox for not having any "great" games... hrmm somethings funny. Anyway, xbox has plenty of good games, and good exlusives as well.>>

Maybe this wasn't a response to me, but I will respond to it. XBox has great games. But they don't have a distinctive "identity" yet. I'll explain later.


<<JSFR, Gunvalkier (sp?), Halo, DOA3, Amped, Bloodwake, WWF Raw... those are games that I (as in me) believe are great;... maybe thats why I own them... but they may not necessarily be the best.>>

I dont know if it's just me, or are these just some no-name games, with the exception to DOA3 and Halo of course. Halo is XBox's probably only card right now that the other consoles don't have. DOA3 is just a refresh of DOA2 on DC and PS2, so is Onimusha, and so will Metal Gear Solid 2. These are simply ported over from PS2 with some graphic improvements, this is why I believe XBox doesn't have a clear identity, so far most big name XBox games are just their versions of the PS2's. I'm sure we'll see more exclusive titles, with better graphics and better gameplay, but until then the XBox remains in PS2's shadow.


<<In anycase, read reviews of the games and see what things you like... Sure PS2 has more games (much more) but it must have more games YOU want... not just more games. Also look @ the future of the consoles... look into future games. I'm biased towards xbox as its what I have (and i believe everyone has some degree of bias especially if they own a specific console). In any case, the only one who can make the decision is you because you're the one who's gonna fork the cash over. my opinion is that xbox has better graphics and a very bright future... but you may think differently.>>

It's true, people who own the consoles will simply recommend what they own, because they believe they made the best choice I guess. I'm speaking here without the link to ownership, I don't have any of the three consoles, but I did play them and their most representative games. It's hard to argue the fact that PS2 right now offer the widest range of games, despite a slight disadvantage in graphics, from Final Fantasy to Grand Theft Auto, and from Devil May Cry to Grand Turismo... You count up all the PS2 exclusive games out there, it might even outnumber the total number of games available on the XBox. But XBox will gain its true identity and prominence with good exclusive titles yet to come; I am very happy that one of the best game makers, Konami, is backing Microsoft, these two have been allies for two years, and all of the best Konami titles will be on XBox as well as PS2. More on the Gamecube later.


<<I don't wanna start any kind of flame war, but someone said the GC caters to the younger audiance. I still don't understand this. Resident Evil is not really a "kiddy" game. Nor was perfect dark for the N64. The N64 had the missfortune of not having enough texture room for the games. This gave almost all games a kiddy appearence. The GC does have games for kids but so does all the other systems. Nintendo is just making a good finacial move and covering the children market as well.>>

Resident Evil is not a GameCube original, it started on PSX, then to migrated DC, and PS2, now GameCube will get its version. So what is the reason to get a GameCube if you're into more matured games? Especially when all these matured games were originated from other consoles? I havent found the justification yet, most games on GameCube right now are multi-flatform games, like those EA games, SSX Tricky for example. The thing that really makes the GameCube stand out are those Nintendo in-house exclusive games, the Marios, the Smash Brothers, the Luigi's Mansions. I mean, there is nothing wrong with liking these games, but as a more matured player, the GameCube leaves much more to be desired. It's true that other flatforms also have kiddy games, but they're nothing compared to Nintendo in-house exclusives. You go ask any kid right now and they will tell you their favorite games are made by Nintendo. And then there is the DVD playability issue, I personally would gladly spend $100 for this capability, it saves me the burden of buying a DVD set-top player, but that's only because I don't already have a DVD player, people who do will weigh out the options differently from me.


<<Also on the topic of consoles, does anyone know if Square is making FF... for the gamecube or another game. I know that they are making a game but what game!! Most people say final fantasy but i just don't know.>>p

SquareSoft have been Sony-exclusive since FFVII, and for the foreseeable future, will stay Sony-exclusive. I consider Square one of the most influencial video game makers of any kind, and Sony definitely has got the advantage in this ace. Square will wet their feet in multi-platform with their FFXI; I heard that all the consoles with internet connecting capabilities will have a version of the FFXI. XI is deviates from the traditional FF in that it's a multiplayer game. Square will go back to PS2 only with XII.
 


<< SquareSoft have been Sony-exclusive since FFVII, and for the foreseeable future, will stay Sony-exclusive. I consider Square one of the most influencial video game makers of any kind, and Sony definitely has got the advantage in this ace. Square will wet their feet in multi-platform with their FFXI; I heard that all the consoles with internet connecting capabilities will have a version of the FFXI. XI is deviates from the traditional FF in that it's a multiplayer game. Square will go back to PS2 only with XII. >>



I think it's all up in the air since this tidbit...
Some people have indicated FFU (Final Fantasy Unlimited) as also being a possibility for the Gamecube...but it's not certain nor does it rule out porting previous titles...

http://cube.ign.com/articles/355/355167p1.html

Fantasy Becomes Reality

It's official. Nintendo confirms that Square's Final Fantasy series will return to GameCube.
March 08, 2002 - The long-awaited news has finally struck. According to Nintendo of America and the morning edition of the Nihon Kezai Shimbun, Square's acclaimed Final Fantasy series will return to Nintendo consoles. Via a new agreement, GameCube and Game Boy Advance will see Final Fantasy branded software, a direct result of Nintendo's recently announced Q Fund where start-up developers can borrow money from the Big N to finance software.

The new Final Fantasy branded software will return via a to be announced Square affiliate, founded by the famous RPG company and Akitoshi Kawazu -- a creator formerly involved with the production of the Legend of Mana series. The unnamed development house -- poised to be titled by the end of the month -- will use cash from the Q Fund to produce the FF software. In light of the fact that it is a Square affiliate producing software, it is unclear whether the new start-up will be porting games in the main line of the Final Fantasy series such as Final Fantasy X, XI, etc or if GameCube and Game Boy Advance will see entirely new FF-branded content.

Nintendo of America confirmed the news to IGNcube this morning, but offered no further details. Square US said it could neither confirm nor deny the news, but indicated it would have an official comment soon.

IGNcube will have more details on this exciting agreement as it develops.


See also:

http://www.nintendo.com/news/news_articles.jsp?articleID=6366

excerpt:

No details have been divulged about the game, other that it will make use of the connectivity between Nintendo GameCube and Game Boy Advance. Square's flagship series Final Fantasy would seem a natural choice, but for now both Nintendo and Square are mum on their precise plans.

Final Fantasy games were a hit on the Game Boy, Nintendo Entertainment System and Super NES, but have not come out on any Nintendo console since 1996.

No plans were announced to bring the new game to the North American market.

Be sure to check back with nintendo.com for details on this highly promising pact between Nintendo and Square.
 
I have X-Box, most of my buds have PS2.

Hardware, video quality ect.. I think X-Box has the edge

HOWEVER, I think M$ is going to have to make good on its promise of better/bigger

game variety before X-Box would be the best........

Potential is certainly there (that's why I chose it), but yet to be realized to my satisfaction.

 
LXi, no my statements were not directed at you... or anyone else in perticular...

anyway, you made some good and valid points... i've never stated that the PS2 did not have the widest range of games... of course it does.... and some very good games too (the ones you listed come to mind). Anyway, you're also right that xbox has yet to make its true impact and create a true identity... its on a good track w/ good games ang good support from game makers but this is going to take time. You may have never heard of Jet Set Radio Future (JSFR), WWF Raw, Bloodwake, and the other "no name's" but they are pretty big on the xbox, especially the first... but anyway i'm on a soapbox... i'll stand by my original post... to the poster... do some research on games not on consoles... a console is only as good as its games.
 
I've played all three and I think that each has their strengths and weaknesses. PS2 while not being graphically superior, does have a very impressive library of PS1 and PS2 games, with the option to play DVD. X-box seems to have it all, good components, DVD, but a small library at the moment(a better time to compare would be a year from now, then we'll see). Gamecube, while it may be orientated towards kids, it is coming from a franchise that has had numerous hits and will have a bunch more to come I'm sure. There are alot of games that I really like from Nintendo and I would like a new version of Zelda or Metroid, but you can't play DVD movies on the cube(NA model), although the price is right and I have a DVD player.

It's still too early to see who is going to be superior, but check back in a year and the game selection should be a bit more of a determining factor. Afterall, a great feature ladden system isn't so great if you don't have anything that you want to play on it.

I'd go for a PS2 now cause it has the games from past and present.
 
I only say "personal preference" in regards to PS2/XBOX vs. Gamecube since those are 2 different categories; one leading the younger market w/ remakes and improvements upon old games, the other 2 aimed towards the older crowd with storyline games and visually beautiful graphics.

PS2 and XBOX are virtually the same console w/ XBOX leading the way in terms of graphics superiority. I made mention that Xbox had "some" great games, but it is somewhat limited due to the relative newness of the console/company in the console department. They don't have many great games, though they do have some...which I consider a limited library.

Sony has the advantage of having an established console already in the Playstation. Playstation 2 has great graphics, although not up to Xbox standards, and is backwards compatible with Playstation games that people have grown to know and love. Add to that the extensive title list that PS2 has already. Once Xbox grabs a few more titles to add to their name, they would be much more superior in all categories. Right now, I feel it is a bit lacking.
 
I actually own 4 consoles and a PC gaming system right now (Xbox, PS2, PC, Dreamcast and GameCube).

By FAR_AND_AWAY the worst system overall out of all of these is the GameCube. It sits, hardly EVER played due to really, a lack of games overall, and more specifically, the games it does have just aren't that fun to me... Rogue Leader being the exception.

The PS2 probably has the upperhand (right now), but I would argue the Xbox isn't really all that far behind, and definately holds the most promise. Most of my friends have been tearing up the Xbox playing some killer games (Halo, Rallisport Challenge, PGR, DOA3, Amped, Fuzion Frenzy, WWF Raw and Knockout Kings 2002 have been killing our time).

The Dreamcast as always rocks, just for it's collection of games it has. But, It's a dead system, so only pick one up if you can really cheap.

You can't go wrong with either the PS2 or Xbox, that's for sure! The PS2 is ruling right now (so many awesome games) but the Xbox is still doing great right now, and I think will rule in the future (Xbox has best graphics, hard drive, network adapter and an online plan). It seems that the Xbox has or gets most of the PS2 games, but they are always better than the PS2 version. So good things to those who can wait is kind of fitting. You also get more for your money with Xbox.
 
XBOX. Simply because it has better hardware, and all the good ps2 games are comine to the xbox like gta3. You gotta look toward the future. I only hope someone will come out w/ a modchip to play imports etc eventually. 🙂
 
Plus, if your all at into online games (besides the PC) the Xbox really is the best choice, as they have showed they are the only system with a REALLY GOOD online plan. Pay one small monthly fee and play ALL of the Xbox games online, whereas the PS2 requires you to purchase a hard drive, ethernet adapter AND pay each game's fee (ala: FFXI will require it's own monthly fee and character fees).
 
Advantages of Xbox:
- Hands down, THE best graphics on a console to date.
- Has hard drive built in, so you can get game updates, addons from CDs, etc
- Has built in ability to play on a LAN (not fully functional for net games, but that's coming)

Disadvanages of Xbox:
- Has less titles than PS2
- Has less developer support, therefore, less titles will possibly come from many vendors.
- Hard drives have potentials to fail, I'd hate to get an Xbox hard drive die and lose all my save games, etc.

Advantages of PS2:
- So many developers for the system
- So many titles for system
- Backwards compatible with PS1, so more than 95% of the titles on PS1 will work on PS2.
- "chip" able
- Graphics, in newer games, are damn good.

Disadvantages of PS2:
- Net connection is coming, but with a hefy cost
- Slightly dated graphics compared to Xbox, but when you see MGS2 in action, I don't think you'll mind.
- Has a "stigma" of being around already, therefore people think the system is outdated.

For the record, I own a PS1/PS2/Dreamcast, N64, Saturn, Gameboy, Gameboy Advanced, Gameboy color, Neogeo pocket and Gamecube.

Titles sell games, not graphics. With that in mind, the PS2 is the clear choice. If you are thinking of the future with the console, the PS2 will have many more titles available compared to the Xbox, but the Xbox will have features that the PS2 won't have, unless you upgrade the PS2.

The choice was clear for me: PS2. I wanted Metal Gear Solid 2, Final Fantasy X and Gran Turismo 3. I bought the Gamecube for Zelda and now it looks like I'll be getting Resident Evil as well (39/40 at Famitsu, almost no other games have done that).

Just my .02

vash
 
I've got an x-box /w Max-Payne, Halo and PGR. Really these are the only games so far that I've found that are worth buying, I've rented obi-wan, starfighter, odd world, wreckless, and a few others I can't remember right now, and played most of the stuff from the 2 demo disks I have. I don't regret buying the x-box but I wish there were more games out like halo/max-payne and some good rpgs out for x-box.
 
all the people bashing xbox and proclaiming PS2s seem to always forget that for the first year or so PS2 did not have any great games (IMHO). It wasnt until GT3 and CTA3 (damn those names are similar 😉) that the PS2 started coming out w/ quality games... xbox is only 4 months old... give it some time... hell it already has some great games (Halo, Rallisport, DOA, JSFR, and TH3... as I've already stated).
 
I too am in this quandry. I recently sold my PS2 having hardly played it and can't understand why I'd even want a XBOX but I do.

I only bought the PS2 to play NCAA 2002 since that the PS2 was the only platform it was available for. I played it a few weeks, along with Madden 2002 and it collected dust after that. I bought MGS2 but couldn't get into that game...I'm really only into sports games.

If I bought the XBOX I'd only be buying sports titles. I'm one of the middle-aged males w/ the disposable income to continously keep upgrading my PC and enjoys playing video games. I find myself playing on the PC the most but keep coming to the realization that the gaming industry is trying to make the console push.

Although we may be a few years away from the the PC dying as a gaming appliance, the industry is definitely telling us that consoles are the wave of the future for gaming. I'm just not sure if I'm ready to make the move until I absolutely have to.

Right now the PC is still a viable gaming platform and it is still my first choice but the XBOX still looks pretty tempting.
 
I wouldn't really include the most promise for online gaming. Almost all of the online games for the console are gonna require a monthly fee. I think the only people that are really gonna have the money to pay for this online gaming ability are the ones that don't come on a forum trying to decide which console to buy. They just buy all of them. I have a Gamecube and PS2. I like both, although I've never really played either that much, only the week or two that I focus on a game that I just bought. Grand Theft Auto 3 and SSX are probably the two games that I spent the most time on. In a way, I wish I had an XBox, but it is really just the "grass is greener on the other side" syndrome getting to me. There aren't really any games that I would enjoy on the XBox. Everyone is raving about Halo, but I can't stand to play a first person shooter on a console. That's what a computer is for. The only games that I would want to play for the XBox are Project Gotham Racing and Jet Set Radio Future. The XBox's graphical superiority really makes me want it though. Everyone on these forums are hardware adicts, and I'm no exception. To sum it up, I say go with a PS2 for now, although, I don't think you will be going wrong with either of them (or the Gamecube for that matter).
 


<< Resident Evil is not a GameCube original, it started on PSX, then to migrated DC, and PS2, now GameCube will get its version. So what is the reason to get a GameCube if you're into more matured games? Especially when all these matured games were originated from other consoles? I havent found the justification yet, most games on GameCube right now are multi-flatform games, like those EA games, SSX Tricky for example. The thing that really makes the GameCube stand out are those Nintendo in-house exclusive games, the Marios, the Smash Brothers, the Luigi's Mansions. I mean, there is nothing wrong with liking these games, but as a more matured player, the GameCube leaves much more to be desired. It's true that other flatforms also have kiddy games, but they're nothing compared to Nintendo in-house exclusives. You go ask any kid right now and they will tell you their favorite games are made by Nintendo. And then there is the DVD playability issue, I personally would gladly spend $100 for this capability, it saves me the burden of buying a DVD set-top player, but that's only because I don't already have a DVD player, people who do will weigh out the options differently from me.
>>



Does it matter where Resident Evil started at? It is exclusive to GC and that does matter. Also it is not just another version they are releasing all three of the old ones and then a new forth one. And many more "mature" games a Nintendo gets back all of the thrid party developers they lost during the N64 erra.
Having Nintendo as an in-house developer is just a bonus. What in-house games does Sony put out that are "mature". I would not call GT3 "mature" it is a great game but not "mature". Also don't forget that the N64 had Residnet evil also.

Asking a kid who makes there favorite games is just dumb. Out of every kid from age 9-10 I would say that 85% of them rent games like THPS, GT2,Golden eye..., not pokemon. Acutally that was one of our worst renters. (I used to work for a video store) Nintendo makes tons of money from Pokemon and so forth so why would they stop? These games are just additions to the total game library. I am sure Perfect Dark 2 will not be a kiddy game. Just look through the history of the N64 library. Nintendo is now covering mature games, Konker anyone? And as the developers come back to Nintendo they will get the games they are lacking.

What consol maker makes mature games? I want to see a list of the mature games from them. I am not saying that they don't but I just want to see a list.

Also list the Kiddy games for the GC. And the list for the Xbox. Then look at the games that are not Kiddy, they may not be mature but they are not kiddy. The only system that has mature games right now is the PS2.



<< p SquareSoft have been Sony-exclusive since FFVII, and for the foreseeable future, will stay Sony-exclusive. I consider Square one of the most influencial video game makers of any kind, and Sony definitely has got the advantage in this ace. Square will wet their feet in multi-platform with their FFXI; I heard that all the consoles with internet connecting capabilities will have a version of the FFXI. XI is deviates from the traditional FF in that it's a multiplayer game. Square will go back to PS2 only with XII. >>



I belive that someone already proved this fact to be wrong.

Edit: Had quotes all messed up.
 
"Almost all of the online games for the console are gonna require a monthly fee. "

Actually, this is only true for the PS2.

The Xbox is going to use Microsofts own custom built just for Xbox online network. Subscribers (rumored $10 a month) will be able to play ANY and ALL Xbox games that are online on this service, with absolutely NO other outside or side charges. This is pretty much the reason Square and Microsoft cannot work out a deal for FFXI and never will. Square wants to charge it's own online fees and additional character fees and Microsoft will not have it. Period. Microsoft will never budge from this, and Square apparently won't budge either (at least, at the time).

The Xbox is (barring the PC) the only real choice for online gaming. They have their own network, their own servers and an online interface that is consistent throughout all of it's games. They have said, you can use private buddy lists and talk to other gamers online, regardless of what game they are playing, even if you are playing a totally different game.

Microsoft is banking heavily on NAILING the Xbox Online Network, and you better believe, it will flat out kick much booty! Tournaments, Leagues, Ranking, Statistics, Buddy lists... the whole nine yards. Not to mention no way to cheat (read: Counterstrike, or AimBots etc.) and an administration and officials governing the entire network.

plain and simple, the Xbox is the only console prepared to get serious about online play.
 


<< even though i dont like microsuft.. id go for gamecube >>



I hope your being dumb...😛

I'd go for PS2. I played a friends xbox(Halo, Munchies something) Halo was OK but got tired quick and the other just sucked. PS2 on the other hand has GTA3 which I played for like 2 days straight, MGS2 was fun too but I was really stuck on GTA🙂 so dunno if it's as good as everyone said. Also, my friends xbox Dolby digital crackled and he had to warranty it, but he said MS was really good about that so it's cool.

FreAk 😀

P.S.- I have GCN and am very happy with it, now if only it had GTA3:|
 
More rant!!!

<<Does it matter where Resident Evil started at? It is exclusive to GC and that does matter. Also it is not just another version they are releasing all three of the old ones and then a new forth one. And many more "mature" games a Nintendo gets back all of the thrid party developers they lost during the N64 erra.
Having Nintendo as an in-house developer is just a bonus. What in-house games does Sony put out that are "mature". I would not call GT3 "mature" it is a great game but not "mature". Also don't forget that the N64 had Residnet evil also.>>

Resident Evil definitely is not exclusive because almost every console out there has it or one of its derivatives, it's a multi-flatform game. But it doesnt seem like you understood me, nor the meaning of mature. If by mature you can only think of violent and scary games, then you're wrong. In fact, it's very sad that you know so little about Sony in-house games, the only game you could think of was Gran Turismo 3. Some of Sony's best works on PSX and PS2 include The Legend of Dragoon, ICO, Wild Arms1,2,3, and, of course, Gran Turismo. I frankly haven't seen many kiddy game from them, in fact you'd probably have to search into SCE's Japanese game list to find some games targetted mainly on young gamers. But the most impressive games targetted at matured audience are not from Sony themselves, but rather, the 3rd parties. You want violence? How about Onimusha1/2 and Devil May Cry? Scary games? Code:VeronicaX, Silent Hill 2. Action? MGS2, GTA3. Fighters? Tekken4, DOA2, Virtual Fighter4, Soul Calibur2. RPG? I wont waste your time listing this one.

I can go on and on, but it would be pointless because GameCube can't hold a candle against this vastly superior list. Keep in mind that my list is extremely truncated. It'd be pretty funny if you try to convince me that one game(Resident Evil) is worth getting the GameCube over all those outstanding titles.


<<Asking a kid who makes there favorite games is just dumb. Out of every kid from age 9-10 I would say that 85% of them rent games like THPS, GT2,Golden eye..., not pokemon. Acutally that was one of our worst renters. (I used to work for a video store) Nintendo makes tons of money from Pokemon and so forth so why would they stop? These games are just additions to the total game library. I am sure Perfect Dark 2 will not be a kiddy game. Just look through the history of the N64 library. Nintendo is now covering mature games, Konker anyone? And as the developers come back to Nintendo they will get the games they are lacking.>>

Do you personally know any young people in the age range of 8-12? I have friends in that age group, and I know what they want. I don't sit here and make a bunch of conjectures on what kind of games they enjoy based on experience in a video store. One of the big selling point of GameCube is their in-house exclusives, that is Nintendo's advantage over Sony and Microsoft. And Nintendo's list of in-house exclusives are comprised of games targeted at this very age group, the Marios, the Smash Brothers, the Luigi's, and the Pokemons. Any one of these games can swing a young gamer from XBox or PS2 to GameCube. Nintendo's coverage on matured games hold little water, and quite frankly, not the calibur of PS2's.


<<What consol maker makes mature games? I want to see a list of the mature games from them. I am not saying that they don't but I just want to see a list.>>

Responded above.


<<Also list the Kiddy games for the GC. And the list for the Xbox. Then look at the games that are not Kiddy, they may not be mature but they are not kiddy. The only system that has mature games right now is the PS2.>>

So are you trying to defeat your own statement? One minute you say Nintendo now covers mature games, the next minute you say only PS2 has mature games. I just want to emphasize this one fact, no console can stack up to the GameCube when it comes to kiddy games, regardless how hard you try or how long your list is, no kiddy game from XBox and PS2 can match those of GameCube's. This is why GameCube is preceived as a kiddy console, it is so dominant among young audience, yet so futile among mature gamers.


<<I belive that someone already proved this fact to be wrong.>>

Now the proof wouldn't have come unless I made the statement first, now would it? But it is not proven wrong until I see the official statement from SquareSoft.
 
I would use the $300 US to go purchuse a computer upgrade or something instead of wasting it any of the consoles.


Sorry, thats my real opinion as to the best thing you can do


but since you are looking for one of two responses, and both platforms are equally capable and the level of quality of the games is about the same, I will select XBOX based on the sole fact that it will be the hackers console of choice, as such there will be plenty of cool things you may be able to do with it. It shoudl not be too long before the thing is hacked wide open.

In addition while I said both platforms are capable, the XBOX appears a little more rebust due to the fact that it has a real General Purpose CPU in it with a high speed to boot. So as new ways of programming games comes along, the XBOX will keep up a little, while the playsation may have trouble adapting to "certain" situations.
 
GAMECUBE!! Ahhhh. Halo AND GTA3 are coming to computer. Plus who needs a stupid XBOX, you already have a computer.

Oh, get Gamcube.

Gamecube.

Gamecube x 50.
 
Zemus-

As much as like my PC that is probably the worst advice you can give. XBOX will remain state-of-the-art technology for consoles for at least the next 2 years. $300 on ANY computer upgrade will be old technology in 6 months or less.

That is probably one of the biggest reasons why consoles will eventually dethrone the PC, if it has not done so already, as the primary gaming platform. Consoles have a life cycle between 2-3 years. PCs have a life cycle as state-of-the-art for about 6 months. The constant need to upgrade PCs to be able to run the latest greatest games with all the bells and whistles is not a habit the average person can afford to do.

For the average person and for game developers as well, the console platform is a much more cost effective solution than the PC.
 
I agree with X14. PC games get better because of hardware. Console games evolve on each console because the programming gets better. And they aren't as riddled with bugs as pc games tend to be requiring patch upon patch upon patch. Also, the developer can take full advantage of the hardware because they don't have to worry about any 'minimum configuration'.

After all this, though, I still prefer my FPS games on my pc and everything else on my PS2.

Oh, and I vote PS2 because of the library of games right now, but in another 6 months to a year I would say you probably couldn't go wrong with either unless there were certain exclusives you were set on playing. For me, it was Final Fantasy. 😉
 
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