XBox & PS2 games playing on a PC > WHY NOT!

KingPhil

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Technology is so advanced these days........ why can't someone come up with a program to run XBOX or PS2 games on the PC. I know the specs of a PC sometimes blow away those console systems, so why not....... PCs have DVD players, arent XBOX and PS2 games just DVDs?
 

purbeast0

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there is this little thing called ... whats that word? oh yea ... HARDWARE that makes it a little difficult, not to mention they run on completely different operating systems.
 

KingPhil

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True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: KingPhil
True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????

no... no they can't.

It's 90% in the lasers of the systems and the way they read the discs.

computers can't even READ the discs, HTF are they supposed to translate the data?

Smooth thinking, jackass. If it were a possibility, do you think it would take 5 years after the systems came out for someone to figure out this master plan of your's?
 

KingPhil

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Man Injury, what crawled up your anal cavity?
I was just asking WHY.......... you explained it with the laser issue.......... now go die.
 

purbeast0

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KingPhil can you please explain to me why we can't run Mac apps on Windows machines?

:p
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: KingPhil
Man Injury, what crawled up your anal cavity? your mom?

I was just asking WHY.......... you explained it with the laser issue.......... now go die.

OH A YOUR MOM JOKE LOLz

really, purbeast0 told you what the problem was and you didn't listen.
 

KingPhil

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
KingPhil can you please explain to me why we can't run Mac apps on Windows machines?

:p

Ok....... don't they make some type of third party software so you can run Windows and Windows APPS on a MAC???? I'm pretty sure they do...........
 

KingPhil

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: KingPhil
Man Injury, what crawled up your anal cavity? your mom?

I was just asking WHY.......... you explained it with the laser issue.......... now go die.

OH A YOUR MOM JOKE LOLz

really, purbeast0 told you what the problem was and you didn't listen.

Yes he told me hardware........ but I wasn't clear on what he meant, sheesh..... your laser explaination helped........ cleared it all up for me :)
 
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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: KingPhil
True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????

no... no they can't.

It's 90% in the lasers of the systems and the way they read the discs.

computers can't even READ the discs, HTF are they supposed to translate the data?

Smooth thinking, jackass. If it were a possibility, do you think it would take 5 years after the systems came out for someone to figure out this master plan of your's?


what do you mean computers can't even read the discs?

have you never seen people make backup copies of their games using......wait for it....a computer with a dvd burner?

the problem lies in the hardware, yes, but not in ability to read the media...it's being able to emulate the xbox and ps2 hardware...iirc you need roughly 10 times the hardware to emulate a console app like that using software...computers aren't quite 10 times faster than consoles..yet...give it a little more time

know what you're talking about before you spout off and call people stupid... :disgust:
 

Warthog912

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: KingPhil
True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????

no... no they can't.

It's 90% in the lasers of the systems and the way they read the discs.

computers can't even READ the discs, HTF are they supposed to translate the data?

Smooth thinking, jackass. If it were a possibility, do you think it would take 5 years after the systems came out for someone to figure out this master plan of your's?


what do you mean computers can't even read the discs?

have you never seen people make backup copies of their games using......wait for it....a computer with a dvd burner?

the problem lies in the hardware, yes, but not in ability to read the media...it's being able to emulate the xbox and ps2 hardware...iirc you need roughly 10 times the hardware to emulate a console app like that using software...computers aren't quite 10 times faster than consoles..yet...give it a little more time

know what you're talking about before you spout off and call people stupid... :disgust:


Last time I checked... the computer with a dvd burner idea is a little misleading-

You have to ftp VIA the computer into the console and let the console read the disc, then tranfer the binary over the network to the computer w/a dvd burner. So wait for it.... a little longer my friend...
 
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Originally posted by: Warthog912
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: KingPhil
True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????

no... no they can't.

It's 90% in the lasers of the systems and the way they read the discs.

computers can't even READ the discs, HTF are they supposed to translate the data?

Smooth thinking, jackass. If it were a possibility, do you think it would take 5 years after the systems came out for someone to figure out this master plan of your's?


what do you mean computers can't even read the discs?

have you never seen people make backup copies of their games using......wait for it....a computer with a dvd burner?

the problem lies in the hardware, yes, but not in ability to read the media...it's being able to emulate the xbox and ps2 hardware...iirc you need roughly 10 times the hardware to emulate a console app like that using software...computers aren't quite 10 times faster than consoles..yet...give it a little more time

know what you're talking about before you spout off and call people stupid... :disgust:


Last time I checked... the computer with a dvd burner idea is a little misleading-

You have to ftp VIA the computer into the console and let the console read the disc, then tranfer the binary over the network to the computer w/a dvd burner. So wait for it.... a little longer my friend...

i watched a friend of mine back up a disc straight from his comp a while back...now that i think about it, that was a ps1 game...wow, that was a little more than a while ago...fvck i'm getting old :eek:

heh
 

shud

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Originally posted by: Warthog912
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: KingPhil
True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????

no... no they can't.

It's 90% in the lasers of the systems and the way they read the discs.

computers can't even READ the discs, HTF are they supposed to translate the data?

Smooth thinking, jackass. If it were a possibility, do you think it would take 5 years after the systems came out for someone to figure out this master plan of your's?


what do you mean computers can't even read the discs?

have you never seen people make backup copies of their games using......wait for it....a computer with a dvd burner?

the problem lies in the hardware, yes, but not in ability to read the media...it's being able to emulate the xbox and ps2 hardware...iirc you need roughly 10 times the hardware to emulate a console app like that using software...computers aren't quite 10 times faster than consoles..yet...give it a little more time

know what you're talking about before you spout off and call people stupid... :disgust:


Last time I checked... the computer with a dvd burner idea is a little misleading-

You have to ftp VIA the computer into the console and let the console read the disc, then tranfer the binary over the network to the computer w/a dvd burner. So wait for it.... a little longer my friend...

Wrong. PS2 games can be straight ripped, and you can even rip a lot of DVD9 games and burn as DVD5 as they put in "garbage" files to improve access times on the disc. You can remove these files pretty easily.

Xbox games have to be done over the network, but not in binary. You just go into your Xbox and copy the .xbe game file to your Xbox hard drive which can be then transfered to your computer and ISO'd with some app.
 
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Originally posted by: shud
Originally posted by: Warthog912
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: KingPhil
True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????

no... no they can't.

It's 90% in the lasers of the systems and the way they read the discs.

computers can't even READ the discs, HTF are they supposed to translate the data?

Smooth thinking, jackass. If it were a possibility, do you think it would take 5 years after the systems came out for someone to figure out this master plan of your's?


what do you mean computers can't even read the discs?

have you never seen people make backup copies of their games using......wait for it....a computer with a dvd burner?

the problem lies in the hardware, yes, but not in ability to read the media...it's being able to emulate the xbox and ps2 hardware...iirc you need roughly 10 times the hardware to emulate a console app like that using software...computers aren't quite 10 times faster than consoles..yet...give it a little more time

know what you're talking about before you spout off and call people stupid... :disgust:


Last time I checked... the computer with a dvd burner idea is a little misleading-

You have to ftp VIA the computer into the console and let the console read the disc, then tranfer the binary over the network to the computer w/a dvd burner. So wait for it.... a little longer my friend...

Wrong. PS2 games can be straight ripped, and you can even rip a lot of DVD9 games and burn as DVD5 as they put in "garbage" files to improve access times on the disc. You can remove these files pretty easily.

Xbox games have to be done over the network, but not in binary. You just go into your Xbox and copy the .xbe game file to your Xbox hard drive which can be then transfered to your computer and ISO'd with some app.

cool, so even though i didn't know what i was talking about i was still right :D

:thumbsup:
 

shud

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: shud
Originally posted by: Warthog912
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: KingPhil
True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????

no... no they can't.

It's 90% in the lasers of the systems and the way they read the discs.

computers can't even READ the discs, HTF are they supposed to translate the data?

Smooth thinking, jackass. If it were a possibility, do you think it would take 5 years after the systems came out for someone to figure out this master plan of your's?


what do you mean computers can't even read the discs?

have you never seen people make backup copies of their games using......wait for it....a computer with a dvd burner?

the problem lies in the hardware, yes, but not in ability to read the media...it's being able to emulate the xbox and ps2 hardware...iirc you need roughly 10 times the hardware to emulate a console app like that using software...computers aren't quite 10 times faster than consoles..yet...give it a little more time

know what you're talking about before you spout off and call people stupid... :disgust:


Last time I checked... the computer with a dvd burner idea is a little misleading-

You have to ftp VIA the computer into the console and let the console read the disc, then tranfer the binary over the network to the computer w/a dvd burner. So wait for it.... a little longer my friend...

Wrong. PS2 games can be straight ripped, and you can even rip a lot of DVD9 games and burn as DVD5 as they put in "garbage" files to improve access times on the disc. You can remove these files pretty easily.

Xbox games have to be done over the network, but not in binary. You just go into your Xbox and copy the .xbe game file to your Xbox hard drive which can be then transfered to your computer and ISO'd with some app.

cool, so even though i didn't know what i was talking about i was still right :D

:thumbsup:

The .xbe file is by no means binary. It's basically the image of the game that the Xbox fires up. Unless those are the same thing? By binary I assumed you meant the rawest form...but I think the .xbe file includes a lot of other stuff too.
 

Warthog912

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Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: shud
Originally posted by: Warthog912
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: KingPhil
True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????

no... no they can't.

It's 90% in the lasers of the systems and the way they read the discs.

computers can't even READ the discs, HTF are they supposed to translate the data?

Smooth thinking, jackass. If it were a possibility, do you think it would take 5 years after the systems came out for someone to figure out this master plan of your's?


what do you mean computers can't even read the discs?

have you never seen people make backup copies of their games using......wait for it....a computer with a dvd burner?

the problem lies in the hardware, yes, but not in ability to read the media...it's being able to emulate the xbox and ps2 hardware...iirc you need roughly 10 times the hardware to emulate a console app like that using software...computers aren't quite 10 times faster than consoles..yet...give it a little more time

know what you're talking about before you spout off and call people stupid... :disgust:


Last time I checked... the computer with a dvd burner idea is a little misleading-

You have to ftp VIA the computer into the console and let the console read the disc, then tranfer the binary over the network to the computer w/a dvd burner. So wait for it.... a little longer my friend...

Wrong. PS2 games can be straight ripped, and you can even rip a lot of DVD9 games and burn as DVD5 as they put in "garbage" files to improve access times on the disc. You can remove these files pretty easily.

Xbox games have to be done over the network, but not in binary. You just go into your Xbox and copy the .xbe game file to your Xbox hard drive which can be then transfered to your computer and ISO'd with some app.

cool, so even though i didn't know what i was talking about i was still right :D

:thumbsup:

not necessarily, I didn't specify which console. The reason I didn't specify is I believed the thread was borderline for speaking of Pirating Discs. That being said, yes, u can copy ps2 discs directly with the correct software. Which u CANNOT do w/Xbox discs.

I'll exit the thread stage left now-
 

MobiusPizza

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: KingPhil
True........ but, oh what's that word? oh ya, SOFTWARE.......... can't someone write a piece of software to compensate the differences????

no... no they can't.

It's 90% in the lasers of the systems and the way they read the discs.

computers can't even READ the discs, HTF are they supposed to translate the data?

Smooth thinking, jackass. If it were a possibility, do you think it would take 5 years after the systems came out for someone to figure out this master plan of your's?



No actually PS2 and Xbox medium are DVD discs which is 100% compatible with PC
You can even backup your games with PC using DVD burner if your console is modded to read burnt DVD media
 

KingPhil

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Originally posted by: BroeBo
angry thread of the day!

I know..... WTF....... I just asked a simple question I was curious about...... and a couple individuals must have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed or something....... either that or they don't think before they speak.
 

MobiusPizza

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Originally posted by: KingPhil
Technology is so advanced these days........ why can't someone come up with a program to run XBOX or PS2 games on the PC. I know the specs of a PC sometimes blow away those console systems, so why not....... PCs have DVD players, arent XBOX and PS2 games just DVDs?



While all the hardware difference can be compensated with software, it is nearly impossible for the following reasons:

1) No one had detailed architecture of the 2 consoles hence no way to write the software
2) A person even a team would probably take ages to write/port the BIOS, O/S, Graphics converter, Instruction decoder.
3) Even if all the aforementioned converters are in place, a quad-core CPU might even not be enough to do all conversions ON-THE-FLY. The games are written in a language not familiar by the PC.

It is like asking you (the PC) to translate French to English on-the-fly when rules of grammar, vocabularies are given to you. You have to be ultra-efficient to do that. You never be as good as a native interpreter (The consoles)
 

KingPhil

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While all the hardware difference can be compensated with software, it is nearly impossible for the following reasons:

1) No one had detailed architecture of the 2 consoles hence no way to write the software
2) A person even a team would probably take ages to write/port the BIOS, O/S, Graphics converter, Instruction decoder.
3) Even if all the aforementioned converters are in place, a quad-core CPU might even not be enough to do all conversions ON-THE-FLY. The games are written in a language not familiar by the PC.

It is like asking you (the PC) to translate French to English on-the-fly when rules of grammar, vocabularies are given to you. You have to be ultra-efficient to do that. You never be as good as a native interpreter (The consoles)

:thumbsup: Thanks!