Going for over $400 on Ebay, so if you didn't get a bundle preordered this may be a way to go. I have the Toys r us B&M bundle, but if I didn't I would just wait. I think MS is planning on 600k-800K by 11/15 which is over twice what the PS2 had at launch, and that doesn't even count the folks who would rather have that kiddy Gamecube system.