this is well not really hot, but well it is in stock so if you want one its ok.
they do force you to take crap like, a faceplate, the charging kit, the full price xbox live card and 6 games at full price.
i actually was able to get mine at a local best buy when a coworker told me it was in stock with no bundle. granted they only had 2, but at least i wasnt made to buy all this stuff i would not really want. then you end up buying all this stuff people are selling off from bundles that they really did not want. if you want this stuff though its not bad.
i figure you have $400 system, $20 face plate, $50 extra wireless control, $20 charge kit, $50 xbox live card, $50x3 for 3 games, + $180 for the other 3.
so that is 870. i suppose if you really wanted you could just buy 2 copies of the 3 $50 games.
but yeah... once you ebay some fo those games off and the useless faceplate its not too bad really.