XBOX 360 - 720p vs 1080p

DaveyTN

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I currently have an original xbox 360 (non hdmi) set at 720p hooked to a Toshiba 37" HD 720p LCD TV. I sit about 8 feet back from the screen while playing. If I had a new xbox 360 with HDMI out (set to 1080p) and a 1080p TV, would I be able to tell the difference in picture quality while playing the xbox 360? Or, is the difference minimal? Thanks!
 

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Most games aren't even 1080p natively, just upscaled. I don't think you'd notice much difference if any.
 

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This doesn't make sense... the TV will be the biggest determinant of picture quality.

Both 360s (non-HDMI and HDMI), are capable of outputting at 1080p. Aside from that, if you're sitting back 8 feet, I would argue chances are you won't notice the difference between 1080p and 720p, regardless.
 

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I think you would notice a difference, but mostly because you would be playing on a different TV. Your question is odd since you're comparing two completely different setups.
 

DaveyTN

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Ok, thanks. I didn't realize that the older xbox 360 could output in 1080p. My bad...
 

TerryMathews

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You want your 360 outputting in 720p unless you know that you're playing games that support true 1080p... There aren't that many, most just use the internal scaling chip to enlarge to 1080p, and it's probably no better than the scaler in your TV; it may be worse.
 

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I have a 1:1 scaler on my Gateway 24" 1080p lcd and frankly the 360 isn't even putting out a pure 1080p picture so I really can't tell that much of a difference. To me it looks just about as good on my 37" sharp 720p really it is the tv.
 

randay

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If the game supports the resolution, I can tell the difference easily. Ive noticed that most people can't, or don't really care much. Unless its a side-by-side comparison I dont think much people will care, even myself.
 

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Originally posted by: indamixx99
I currently have it set to 1080i. Would I get a better image if I dropped it down to 720p?

Yes. You dont want to introduce interlacing into the equation if you can avoid it. Youll probably also get less lag by setting it to 720p.

Other than that, anyone noticing a difference between 720p and 1080p is imagining things, unless their TV has a terrible scaler. In that case, 1080p all the way, as the 360 has a decent one.
 

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I have my Halo 360 outputting 1360x768 over HDMI to my LCD. Native res FTW! The scaler in the XBOX is way more capable than the one in my cheap Emprex (Fry's house brand) LCD.
 
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I run at 1080p on my 42", and I can definitely tell a difference between 720p and an upscaled 1080p. The 1080p output from the 360 just looks a lot smoother, I don't care if it's upscaled or not.
 

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I just do 1080p because not everything is native 720p anyway, so I'd rather not scale those things twice.
 
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I run at 1080p on my 42", and I can definitely tell a difference between 720p and an upscaled 1080p. The 1080p output from the 360 just looks a lot smoother, I don't care if it's upscaled or not.
Not to stray off-topic but do you think (or did MS mention) they will give 1680x1050 as an option this year for Pc monitor users when they do their little 360 update this year? It would at least be in the middle kind of.
 

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Originally posted by: mugs
Most games aren't even 1080p natively, just upscaled. I don't think you'd notice much difference if any.

I agree with ducci, it's the picture quality or resolution of your tv screen that matters. Two different set-ups is kinda hard to figure out the difference. Just get a big screen and nice resolution and you're all settled.


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Originally posted by: nobody special
I run at 1080p on my 42", and I can definitely tell a difference between 720p and an upscaled 1080p. The 1080p output from the 360 just looks a lot smoother, I don't care if it's upscaled or not.
Not to stray off-topic but do you think (or did MS mention) they will give 1680x1050 as an option this year for Pc monitor users when they do their little 360 update this year? It would at least be in the middle kind of.
1680x1050 is a 16:10 resolution. I really doubt we'll ever see it - none of the competition seems to be planning on supporting it, either. Microsoft has certainly not made any mention of such a resolution. You could _possibly_ see something more like 1680x945 (which is 16:9), but like I said, I wouldn't bet the bank on it. The vast majority of folks will be playing their 360s on TVs, not computer monitors.

Back on topic: always set your 360 to output at your TV's native resolution. The 360 scales very nicely, and, more to the point, this will ensure that your TV's scaler doesn't introduce AV lag/desynchronization.

Will the 1080p upgrade look better? Probably not very much, considering the TV would be 37" (smallish for the resolution) and the source material would still just be 720p to 1080p for the most part.
 
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see something more like 1680x945 (which is 16:9), but like I said, I wouldn't bet the bank on it. The vast majority of folks will be playing their 360s on TVs, not computer monitors
Thanks. I didn't realize that was 16:10. That makes sense now. It wouldn't make too much sense for them to give 1680x945 as an option I guess sense monitor users are so few. 1360x768 isn't to bad on my 22 inch even though it isn't a native resolution. Sorry to hijack the thread I was just curious.
 

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Originally posted by: noxela
Originally posted by: mugs
Most games aren't even 1080p natively, just upscaled. I don't think you'd notice much difference if any.

I agree with ducci, it's the picture quality or resolution of your tv screen that matters. Two different set-ups is kinda hard to figure out the difference. Just get a big screen and nice resolution and you're all settled.


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It's a mixture of both. If you have a good TV then you will notice the differences between a game which is upscaled vs a game which is actually 1080p or really close to it.
 

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I read an article a while back that explained mathematically and biologically what you can and can't see regarding TV resolutions. The conclusion was that if you are 10 feet or further away from a tv 50" or smaller you cannot see any difference between 1080p and 720p. If you sit close to your TV or you have a huge TV then you start to see the differences if you look close enough. Unless you are right on top of your 50" TV I think it would be incredibly hard to see the difference while gaming... and it would be tough to play a game sitting that close. Where 1080p starts to really shine is when you are projecting onto a wall or something where you have a HUGE viewing area. Then the differences between 720 and 1080 become very apparent.