X800XT PE with SUXOR FPS in doom3

[MsPaint]

So..

I just got myself a new video card which is the familiar X800Prov VIVO which i've flashed to an X800XT PE with sucess. now to the problem! here is my rigg:

ASUS A7N8X- Deluxe 2.0 (drivers from the CD which it came with)
AMD 2500 @ 3200
2x256mb DDR PC3200 (dualchannel)
Club3d X800Pro VIVO --> X800XT PE 16pixel pipes (tried the new ATI Beta drivers and the DNA Drivers which is based on the CAT 4.9, same result)
1x120gb seagate
Enhance 300W PSU

Ive got a pretty good result in 3dmark03 (11475p) but when i go with the timedemo on Doom3 i get an result of 36fps in 1024x768 @ high quality with out any AA of AF. This shouldnt be right cuz ive got a friend with the same system and he also gets 36fps in doom3 with the same resolution and quality.

I mean, a system which contains a card with the double Pixel pipes and alot of other good stuff should get alot better score than a system with 9800pro in it (stock speeds)

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Maybe the extra pipes aren't actually enabled? Your CPU speed is fairly whimpy for that card too....

 

[kylebisme]

You probably just need to go with medium quality or get some more ram.

 

[MsPaint]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Maybe the extra pipes aren't actually enabled? Your CPU speed is fairly whimpy for that card too....

Yes they are, why should ATI Tool lie??

And my CPU isn't whimpy! should that still mean that upg to a X800Pro VIVO card wouldn't have any effects whatspver on the game performance?? pff.. i hope this isn't anandtechs finest talking

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: MsPaint

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Maybe the extra pipes aren't actually enabled? Your CPU speed is fairly whimpy for that card too....

Yes they are, why should ATI Tool lie??

And my CPU isn't whimpy! should that still mean that upg to a X800Pro VIVO card wouldn't have any effects whatspver on the game performance?? pff.. i hope this isn't anandtechs finest talking

Awwww look I hurt his feelings :roll: An XP3200+ is slooooow by current standards, deal with it. Also, your 3DMock '03 score is low for a PE which points to the rest of your system bottlenecking it if the extra pipes are indeed working. Then there is the fact that D3 is the one title that runs relatively poorly on the latest ATi hardware. Anywho, there was no need to be so defensive, nice way to start off posting here :thumbsdown:

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: MsPaint

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Maybe the extra pipes aren't actually enabled? Your CPU speed is fairly whimpy for that card too....

Yes they are, why should ATI Tool lie??

And my CPU isn't whimpy! should that still mean that upg to a X800Pro VIVO card wouldn't have any effects whatspver on the game performance?? pff.. i hope this isn't anandtechs finest talking

Awwww look I hurt his feelings :roll: An XP3200+ is slooooow by current standards, deal with it. Also, your 3DMock '03 score is low for a PE which points to the rest of your system bottlenecking it if the extra pipes are indeed working. Then there is the fact that D3 is the one title that runs relatively poorly on the latest ATi hardware. Anywho, there was no need to be so defensive, nice way to start off posting here :thumbsdown:

Thats got to be a new record. MsPaint insulting someone by his/her second post.
Well, MsPaint, you don't deserve any help or advice, but what the hey. Your puny CPU would bottleneck a regular X800pro. Why would you think the same bottleneck wouldn't be there for a X800XT? A wall has been hit and putting a faster video card in your current rig would be futile. You need to upgrade your CPU and memory for you to notice any gains. And I don't mean bumping it up 200MHz either. You need a serious CPU (top of the line) to enjoy the almost full power of these new cards.

 

[kylebisme]

Damn keys, settle down there, you are way out of line implying that his cpu is responsible for scores that low. I have the same cpu overclocked to the same speed, same motherboard and an xt-pe as well. I get 60.9 fps at 1024x768 high and the same at 1280x960, so yes it is cpu limited but something else is clearly wrong. I do have twice the ram as the orignal poster which is why that was my first guess, but other than that all I can think of is the basic stuff like vsync and updating drivers.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Damn keys, settle down there, you are way out of line implying that his cpu is responsible for scores that low. I have the same cpu overclocked to the same speed, same motherboard and an xt-pe as well. I get 60.9 fps at 1024x768 high and the same at 1280x960, so yes it is cpu limited but something else is clearly wrong. I do have twice the ram as the orignal poster which is why that was my first guess, but other than that all I can think of is the basic stuff like vsync and updating drivers.

Settled down. It's just sometimes I would like to reach through the web and b!tchslap rude people. I can't seem to tolerate it.

 

[rbV5]

You might start with getting the latest NForce UDP drivers for your Motherboard from Nvidia. I'm not sure which set shipped with the v2.0 ASUS board, but its likely dated.

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: MsPaint

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Maybe the extra pipes aren't actually enabled? Your CPU speed is fairly whimpy for that card too....

Yes they are, why should ATI Tool lie??

And my CPU isn't whimpy! should that still mean that upg to a X800Pro VIVO card wouldn't have any effects whatspver on the game performance?? pff.. i hope this isn't anandtechs finest talking

so you come here insulting people who tries to help you. WRONG FORUM. HE'S RIGHT; YOUR CPU IS NOTHING SERIOUS NOWADAYS AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM BUT I DON'T LIKE TO HELP PEOPLE LIKE YOU. BE CAREFULL NEXT TIME.

 

[JCGhz]

Are you running the demo twice? Doing so will usecache and you will get the actual results you should be. There is also alot more tweaks for D3 that you should explore.. do a google search. Hope that helps.

Ill buy your card from ya if you dont want it Goodluck

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: MsPaint

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Maybe the extra pipes aren't actually enabled? Your CPU speed is fairly whimpy for that card too....

Yes they are, why should ATI Tool lie??

And my CPU isn't whimpy! should that still mean that upg to a X800Pro VIVO card wouldn't have any effects whatspver on the game performance?? pff.. i hope this isn't anandtechs finest talking

I upgraded my overclocked 2500+ too and noticed large gains in CPU intensive games when using my A64 3200+ over the AXP... it's MUCH faster.

oh and when you ask for advice, don't diss back... clearly you were looking for help, so let people say what they are going to say.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I could have phrased my question and observation better too, which would have kept him from getting defensive about it. Honestly my advice wasn't that helpful either The advice JCGhz offered about game specific tweaks was excellent I liked the infered "whta are you complaining about? your card rox" comment too I ASSumed since his first post showed he knows his way around, from overclocking to soft mods to drivers to how to properly make a post asking for advice that he'd have covered all those bases, but there's a good chance he hasn't. I just hope I didn't scare him off

 

[Killrose]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Damn keys, settle down there, you are way out of line implying that his cpu is responsible for scores that low. I have the same cpu overclocked to the same speed, same motherboard and an xt-pe as well. I get 60.9 fps at 1024x768 high and the same at 1280x960, so yes it is cpu limited but something else is clearly wrong. I do have twice the ram as the orignal poster which is why that was my first guess, but other than that all I can think of is the basic stuff like vsync and updating drivers.

The only real inteilligent post here. Reading some of the other posts, for a minute there I thought I was reading the Rage3d Forums !!

Obviously the guy has a legit problem, and a lot of you suffer from the A64 superiority complex.

Maybe he is using Win98?

 

[rbV5]

The only real inteilligent post here.

C'mon now, I suggested chipset drivers because he said "ASUS A7N8X- Deluxe 2.0 (drivers from the CD which it came with)" I know my v1.04 board shipped with very dated 1.16 Nforce drivers. The memory controller and GART driver(s) in particular have quite an impact on performance, and I've seen quite a few instances where poor performance was directly related to the chipset drivers, seems like a reasonable place to start.

 

[teo]

Did you turn off AA and AF in the game or in CAT 4.9 control pannel?If you don"t turn them off in the CAT control pannel i'm told they are on.Which in my case seems to be true.Also "TIMEDEMO DEMO1 1 i belive will pre-cache without having to run it twice.

 

[nRollo]

I'm sure DaPunisher just meant his cpu is wimpy for Doom3, which it basically is. Combining an Athlon XP and an ATI card isn't the best way to get high Doom 3 framerates, other hardware is preferable for this game.

 

[Pete]

Some good advice in this thread, MSPaint. Follow it to higher framerates.

Also, get the very latest ATi hotfix drivers, they should include the Doom 3 framerate-boosting Catalyst AI tweaks.

Though your AXP isn't exactly the fastest, it should be good enough to yield decent framerates.

 

[Apocalypse23]

Originally posted by: MsPaint

So..

I just got myself a new video card which is the familiar X800Prov VIVO which i've flashed to an X800XT PE with sucess. now to the problem! here is my rigg:

ASUS A7N8X- Deluxe 2.0 (drivers from the CD which it came with)
AMD 2500 @ 3200
2x256mb DDR PC3200 (dualchannel)
Club3d X800Pro VIVO --> X800XT PE 16pixel pipes (tried the new ATI Beta drivers and the DNA Drivers which is based on the CAT 4.9, same result)
1x120gb seagate
Enhance 300W PSU

Ive got a pretty good result in 3dmark03 (11475p) but when i go with the timedemo on Doom3 i get an result of 36fps in 1024x768 @ high quality with out any AA of AF. This shouldnt be right cuz ive got a friend with the same system and he also gets 36fps in doom3 with the same resolution and quality.

I mean, a system which contains a card with the double Pixel pipes and alot of other good stuff should get alot better score than a system with 9800pro in it (stock speeds)

Get yourself at least 1gb pc3200 ram (ocz or corsair) everything should run pretty sweet from that upgrade.

peace

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Killrose

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Damn keys, settle down there, you are way out of line implying that his cpu is responsible for scores that low. I have the same cpu overclocked to the same speed, same motherboard and an xt-pe as well. I get 60.9 fps at 1024x768 high and the same at 1280x960, so yes it is cpu limited but something else is clearly wrong. I do have twice the ram as the orignal poster which is why that was my first guess, but other than that all I can think of is the basic stuff like vsync and updating drivers.

The only real inteilligent post here. Reading some of the other posts, for a minute there I thought I was reading the Rage3d Forums !!

Obviously the guy has a legit problem, and a lot of you suffer from the A64 superiority complex.

Maybe he is using Win98?

Just for the record though, I use Intel. ;P