X800 series vs. 6800 series

[g3pro]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
what is the rave API?

An absolutely s***ty API ATi designed for the macintosh a while back. :|

 

[g3pro]

Originally posted by: fsstrike
ATI wins virutally every benchmark, such as farcry, ut2004 (with AA and AF) etc... nVidia is good too, but performance is lacking. Until we see new games with new features such as PS3.0, ATI will reign king. When is that going to happen? Mabye 2006 when unreal3 comes out?

Hmmmm. You don't care that nVidia wins every benchmark except for benches with high ansiotropic filtering? Where ATi has been proven to be cheating? Where there is no decrease in performance from 4x to 16x? :roll:

Give me a break. nVidia won this round so damn easily. Looks like nVidia ownage once again.

 

[Dulanic]

All I really want is to wait for the 6800 GT, that seems to me it will be the card to have, but it is hard to tell. I buy what is the best card at the time for the money, I went from 3Dfx to GeForce 256, to GeForce 4 4400, to a 9800 Pro. I game alot, but I dont upgrade often if games still run ok on my current card. So I want something that will last me a while. Overall my best card was the GF4 4400... it lasted me quite some time, and OCed like a beast... went from 550 memory to 725.

I will probably stick with the 9800 Pro for a while, but if I was looking, I would keep an eye out for the 6800 GT, I think it will offer the best price/performance.

 

[fsstrike]

Originally posted by: g3pro

Originally posted by: fsstrike
ATI wins virutally every benchmark, such as farcry, ut2004 (with AA and AF) etc... nVidia is good too, but performance is lacking. Until we see new games with new features such as PS3.0, ATI will reign king. When is that going to happen? Mabye 2006 when unreal3 comes out?

Hmmmm. You don't care that nVidia wins every benchmark except for benches with high ansiotropic filtering? Where ATi has been proven to be cheating? Where there is no decrease in performance from 4x to 16x? :roll:

Give me a break. nVidia won this round so damn easily. Looks like nVidia ownage once again.

Try www.anandtech.com then come back and say just what you said.

 

[KoRn96]

Will the Gainward PowerPack Ultra/2600 Golden Sample be the best air cooled 6800?

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: g3pro
I support ATi: they have much better RAVE API support than nvidia, they have absolutely incredible frame rates for high levels of Ansiotropic Filtering (they don't even decrease when you bump it from 4x to 16x), they have incredibly fast always-on trilinear filtering, they have incredible drivers for linux, they totally whoop nVidia in OpenGL and OpenAL, and especially DirectX 9.1.

There is no DX9.1, its DX9.0c.

 

[reever]

Where there is no decrease in performance from 4x to 16x?

And an increase of quality? Shame on them!

 

[g3pro]

Originally posted by: reever

Where there is no decrease in performance from 4x to 16x?

And an increase of quality? Shame on them!

I don't think bad IQ is an "increase of quality". :roll:

 

[VisableAssassin]

6800 hands down for me.
runs neck and neck on beta drivers when benched against the 420 and its more mature driver set.
and with the new chip design Nvida hsould still have plenty more to squeeze outta the card.
and when will people realize the new power req is now 350w not 480w. And why do poeple complaina bout a two slot solution when they will end up making a single slot card a two slot anyways?

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Dulanic
All I really want is to wait for the 6800 GT, that seems to me it will be the card to have, but it is hard to tell. I buy what is the best card at the time for the money, I went from 3Dfx to GeForce 256, to GeForce 4 4400, to a 9800 Pro. I game alot, but I dont upgrade often if games still run ok on my current card. So I want something that will last me a while. Overall my best card was the GF4 4400... it lasted me quite some time, and OCed like a beast... went from 550 memory to 725.

I will probably stick with the 9800 Pro for a while, but if I was looking, I would keep an eye out for the 6800 GT, I think it will offer the best price/performance.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: g3pro

Originally posted by: fsstrike
ATI wins virutally every benchmark, such as farcry, ut2004 (with AA and AF) etc... nVidia is good too, but performance is lacking. Until we see new games with new features such as PS3.0, ATI will reign king. When is that going to happen? Mabye 2006 when unreal3 comes out?

Hmmmm. You don't care that nVidia wins every benchmark except for benches with high ansiotropic filtering? Where ATi has been proven to be cheating? Where there is no decrease in performance from 4x to 16x? :roll:

Give me a break. nVidia won this round so damn easily. Looks like nVidia ownage once again.

most of those benchamakrs the nvidia isn't running trilinear either - the "opt off" feature is broken in the latest forceware driver.

also, the issue is not the level of ansotrophic filtering being applied, rather bilinear filtering in place of trilinear.

oh.. and the reason nv takes a bigger hit when aniso is applies is that nv40 architecture shares one of its alu's with texture sampling when AF is applied, slowing down math ops/shader processing. the r420 does this independently.

 

[Algere]

Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
And why do poeple complaina bout a two slot solution when they will end up making a single slot card a two slot anyways?

1 slot gfx card = 2 slots
2 slot gfx card = 3 slots?

Maybe because a 2 slot card will take 3 slots?

 

[Description]

RAVE owns. I like playing Nanosaur and Quake 1.0.

 

[VisableAssassin]

Originally posted by: Algere

Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
And why do poeple complaina bout a two slot solution when they will end up making a single slot card a two slot anyways?

1 slot gfx card = 2 slots
2 slot gfx card = 3 slots?

Maybe because a 2 slot card will take 3 slots?

give me a break.
most of those b1tching bout a two slot solution took a 9800 and put a acrtic silencer on it. But then again its ATi right so its OK?
With the newer mobos out myself I can't see any reason why youd be useing the first two or three PCI slot...hall I use my last slot of my sound card. everything else is built into my mobo.
and everythign ive seen so far the 6800 is a 2 slot solution useing 2 slots. but of course different companies will use different methods of keeping the core (or core&ram) cool and possible use one slot.

 

[BudAshes]

Ill get whichever one the best deal comes out for.

 

[VIAN]

It's a very hard decision and that's why I'm not voting. I'll wait till both cards are out with REAL, non-beta drivers.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: fsstrike

Originally posted by: g3pro

Originally posted by: fsstrike
ATI wins virutally every benchmark, such as farcry, ut2004 (with AA and AF) etc... nVidia is good too, but performance is lacking. Until we see new games with new features such as PS3.0, ATI will reign king. When is that going to happen? Mabye 2006 when unreal3 comes out?

Hmmmm. You don't care that nVidia wins every benchmark except for benches with high ansiotropic filtering? Where ATi has been proven to be cheating? Where there is no decrease in performance from 4x to 16x? :roll:

Give me a break. nVidia won this round so damn easily. Looks like nVidia ownage once again.

Try www.anandtech.com then come back and say just what you said.

Yeah, take tha advice of the guy with the GF3! He's on the cutting edge of the GPU industry!

 

[Genx87]

Both cards are in a deadheat when it comes to performance. Sometimes the X800 wins and others the 6800. So I move to my second validation which is featureset. Nvidia wins this hands down.

6800GT

 

[edmundoab]

nvidia leading the polls by 10! wow,
really a fanboy thread

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: edmundoab
nvidia leading the polls by 10! wow,
really a fanboy thread

Why is this a dan boy thread? I voted Nvidia because I plan on getting a 6800 GT because it seems right now it will be the best price/performance IMO. I quite a few of the people that voted for NV in this poll have ATI cards right now like my self. I go for what is a decent price and still offers good performance. When I bought my 9500 pro it was only $175 while 9700 pro's were still in the $300+ range and Nvidia's cards were just rediculous for price/performance at the time. This time around it looks a little different and I think a few people are seeing that, so many are going with NV because they actually have something to offer. It is NOT just a fan boy thread :roll:

 

[GeneralGrievous]

How does the X800XT compare to the 6800 GT in price/performance? At stock it looks like the XT has the a similar ratio, but since it has low overclocking the GT probably has a higher price/performance when overclocked.

 

[stardust]

What if you like both?! What can you say about me?! I own a AIW9600pro, 9800pro, FX5600ultra, and FX5900...

 

[klee]

ATI

Right now, ATi has superior performance where it counts - i.e. games with shadersText

 

[Zebo]

I'm really surprised nVidia is leading the way. The couple games I play ATI has better frames, and even more so with stuff turned on. Also it has a lower profile, proabably a quieter HSF, and use less power. Nevertheless, I'm getting the GT in hopes of OCing to ultra levels since the x800pro seems imposible to make a x800xt, also I can't live w/o nVidias digital vibrance. (crazy I know)
The lower profile/smaller HSF of ATI does'nt effect me because I slap a water block on any cards I get. Basically Nvidia will own Price/performance for overclcokers like the 5900NU did, and I always buy on price/performance never the top card. nVidia it is.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I'm really surprised nVidia is leading the way. The couple games I play ATI has better frames, and even more so with stuff turned on. Also it has a lower profile, proabably a quieter HSF, and use less power. Nevertheless, I'm getting the GT in hopes of OCing to ultra levels since the x800pro seems imposible to make a x800xt, also I can't live w/o nVidias digital vibrance. (crazy I know)
The lower profile/smaller HSF of ATI does'nt effect me because I slap a water block on any cards I get. Basically Nvidia will own Price/performance for overclcokers like the 5900NU did, and I always buy on price/performance never the top card. nVidia it is.

The reason might be that the 6800 drivers are so new and still competing on par with ATI's matured stuff.
With every new driver release from Nvidia, performance will grow and I think that is the most influential factor in these poll results.