X800 Pro modded into X800 XT Platinum

sparkyclarky

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As seen here

This makes that card much more attractive, if this procedure can be done with any consistency. I'm still most likely going to pick up a GT though.
 

ForceCalibur

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Not a hard mod. But like 9800SEs, you may get a card with 4 broken pipes. Anyhow, it WOULD be interesting if you ran out and bought the X800PRO at Bestbuy and tried the mod, if it doesn't work, exchange it :)
 

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
Not a hard mod. But like 9800SEs, you may get a card with 4 broken pipes. Anyhow, it WOULD be interesting if you ran out and bought the X800PRO at Bestbuy and tried the mod, if it doesn't work, exchange it :)

Prepare to get flamed!
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
interesting if you ran out and bought the X800PRO at Bestbuy and tried the mod, if it doesn't work, exchange it :)

Thats just wrong YOU screwed it up suck up the loss don't asshat and pass it on to others.
 

ForceCalibur

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Lol? What do you mean pass it onto others? Bestbuy returns "defective" cards to wherever, and get repaired and repackaged. Doing the mod, if you actually READ the link, doesn't harm your card. You only find out whether or not your other 4 pipes are broken.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
Not a hard mod. But like 9800SEs, you may get a card with 4 broken pipes. Anyhow, it WOULD be interesting if you ran out and bought the X800PRO at Bestbuy and tried the mod, if it doesn't work, exchange it :)

Yeah because it's Best Buy's fault that you're an idiot, and ruined a card. You thieving baseless loser.
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
Lol? What do you mean pass it onto others? Bestbuy returns "defective" cards to wherever, and get repaired and repackaged. Doing the mod, if you actually READ the link, doesn't harm your card. You only find out whether or not your other 4 pipes are broken.

I did read the link it requires a BIOS flash...oh wait flashing a card to NON stock BIOS doesnt void your warrenty does it?
And if you read up on it more those 4 pipes are HARD locked not locked in the BIOS anymore so a soft mod is not going to be possible...you WILL end up having to hard mod the card....but that doesnt void anything either does it?
 

ForceCalibur

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
Not a hard mod. But like 9800SEs, you may get a card with 4 broken pipes. Anyhow, it WOULD be interesting if you ran out and bought the X800PRO at Bestbuy and tried the mod, if it doesn't work, exchange it :)

Yeah because it's Best Buy's fault that you're an idiot, and ruined a card. You thieving baseless loser.

LMAO.

Please READ THE F*Cking Link before you look more so like an idiot.
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
Not a hard mod. But like 9800SEs, you may get a card with 4 broken pipes. Anyhow, it WOULD be interesting if you ran out and bought the X800PRO at Bestbuy and tried the mod, if it doesn't work, exchange it :)

Yeah because it's Best Buy's fault that you're an idiot, and ruined a card. You thieving baseless loser.

LMAO.

Please READ THE F*Cking Link before you look more so like an idiot.

umm.. sorry to say HE's not the one looking like an idiot. perhaps you should take your own advice? probably too late tho...

first of all, it's a HARD MOD. that's the first action which voids the warranty.

secondly, it requires a non-standard bios. that's the second action that voids the warrantly.

then there's the whole overclocking voids warranty.. so that's 3 actions which void the warranty.

furthermore, once you flash the xt bios, you cannot simply reflash back to the pro bios - the reflashed pro bios does not match the original for some reason.

edit: oh, and it seems after 2 days, every attempt has failed with the exception of original 3 people who have claimed this worked, so at the least it's VERY YMMV.
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
Not a hard mod. But like 9800SEs, you may get a card with 4 broken pipes. Anyhow, it WOULD be interesting if you ran out and bought the X800PRO at Bestbuy and tried the mod, if it doesn't work, exchange it :)



a$$hole
 

ForceCalibur

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First of all, I made no comment on WARRANTY. Buying from a retailer like bestbuy means you can return it for your money back (under 200 dollars, or exchange over 200).

Its a hardmod, BUT if you fail it, your card does NOT get damaged in anyway. You will still be running with a 12 pipe card.
It does NOT require a non-standard bios. You can simply unlock the pipes and overclock the card, or keep it clocked the same w/ 16 pipes.
I've had enough of arguing over overclocking voiding warranty. My post had nothing to do with warranty anyway. The final point is that overclocking cannot possibly void your warranty if there is NO way it can detected.

And yes, lots of people have failed. This seems to suggest that the pipe yield for the XT seems pretty low, another reason for its delay, aside from the memory shortage.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
First of all, I made no comment on WARRANTY. Buying from a retailer like bestbuy means you can return it for your money back (under 200 dollars, or exchange over 200).

Its a hardmod, BUT if you fail it, your card does NOT get damaged in anyway. You will still be running with a 12 pipe card.
It does NOT require a non-standard bios. You can simply unlock the pipes and overclock the card, or keep it clocked the same w/ 16 pipes.
I've had enough of arguing over overclocking voiding warranty. My post had nothing to do with warranty anyway. The final point is that overclocking cannot possibly void your warranty if there is NO way it can detected.

And yes, lots of people have failed. This seems to suggest that the pipe yield for the XT seems pretty low, another reason for its delay, aside from the memory shortage.

You are an absolute idiot. You think that your card can't be damaged doing a hard mod? One slip and your card is toast.

Best buy's inventory is not your personal property. What you're suggesting is dishonest and immoral to the extreme. You are scum.
 

ForceCalibur

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Lol. YOUD have to been idiot to mess up on the mod as described. THere is no possible way of "slipping" unless your dead drunk and retarded to boost.

Btw, thank you for letting me know I am dishonest, immortal "to the extreme", and I am scum. Next thing you know, I will be after your kids for sure :)
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
Lol. YOUD have to been idiot to mess up on the mod as described. THere is no possible way of "slipping" unless your dead drunk and retarded to boost.

Btw, thank you for letting me know I am dishonest, immortal "to the extreme", and I am scum. Next thing you know, I will be after your kids for sure :)

But you are an idiot. Look at the posts you've made today! You've admitted that if you screwed the mod up, you would return the card to best buy! SO if you stepped on the card, and thought you could get away with it, you'd return it! Take responsibility for your actions!
 

ForceCalibur

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I'm not an idiot, how can you claim that based on some OK, admittedly "immoral" ideas. That is even debatable, morality and whatnot, whether we humans have such or are just afraid of punishment. But, another debate for another time.

If I stepped on a card, (I dont think anyone in the world has done that by accident?), it would be my fault yes. But my whole point is that buying from bestbuy + returning will NOT damage the card in anyway if your careful, and all your basically doing is sampling for a card that doesn't have the 4 pipes broken. If Bestbuy wanted, they could sell whatever you returned for no loss, and the person who buys it won't have an problems with the card either. It can be considered like an 9800Se with a failed softmod. AFter the day, no harm is done, and Bestbuy probably could care less.
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
First of all, I made no comment on WARRANTY. Buying from a retailer like bestbuy means you can return it for your money back (under 200 dollars, or exchange over 200).

Its a hardmod, BUT if you fail it, your card does NOT get damaged in anyway. You will still be running with a 12 pipe card.
It does NOT require a non-standard bios. You can simply unlock the pipes and overclock the card, or keep it clocked the same w/ 16 pipes.
I've had enough of arguing over overclocking voiding warranty. My post had nothing to do with warranty anyway. The final point is that overclocking cannot possibly void your warranty if there is NO way it can detected.

And yes, lots of people have failed. This seems to suggest that the pipe yield for the XT seems pretty low, another reason for its delay, aside from the memory shortage.

No you didnt mention warranty at all so I will give you that.

But the point was to do that mod as per that link you do indeed need non-standard BIOS...you need a XT BIOS instead of the PRO BIOS....there is no questioning it...that is non standard.
Then you have to hard mod the card...which no matter how you cut it voids the warranty and takes you into the realm "youve got a 50/50 chance of success" and as of right now its look like its less than 50/50 right now.
And by doing such a mod you should accept the fact that if YOU fvck it up YOU should suck up the cost and buy another...try again if you will or dont. Now this is regardless of the mod damaging the card.
Once YOU screw it up and send it back under RMA or "because it didnt work" you are wrong..because the card didnt do what YOU wanted it to do.
 

vshah

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
I'm not an idiot, how can you claim that based on some OK, admittedly "immoral" ideas. That is even debatable, morality and whatnot, whether we humans have such or are just afraid of punishment. But, another debate for another time.

If I stepped on a card, (I dont think anyone in the world has done that by accident?), it would be my fault yes. But my whole point is that buying from bestbuy + returning will NOT damage the card in anyway if your careful, and all your basically doing is sampling for a card that doesn't have the 4 pipes broken. If Bestbuy wanted, they could sell whatever you returned for no loss, and the person who buys it won't have an problems with the card either. It can be considered like an 9800Se with a failed softmod. AFter the day, no harm is done, and Bestbuy probably could care less.

how would you like it if you bought a x800 pro for full price from best buy, and opened it to discover someone had scratched around on the core. i think you'd be pretty pissed, regardless of whether or not it worked.

-Vivan
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
I'm not an idiot, how can you claim that based on some OK, admittedly "immoral" ideas. That is even debatable, morality and whatnot, whether we humans have such or are just afraid of punishment. But, another debate for another time.

If I stepped on a card, (I dont think anyone in the world has done that by accident?), it would be my fault yes. But my whole point is that buying from bestbuy + returning will NOT damage the card in anyway if your careful, and all your basically doing is sampling for a card that doesn't have the 4 pipes broken. If Bestbuy wanted, they could sell whatever you returned for no loss, and the person who buys it won't have an problems with the card either. It can be considered like an 9800Se with a failed softmod. AFter the day, no harm is done, and Bestbuy probably could care less.

That is just wrong man plain and simple.
To be honest I can't believe some people would sink that friggin low as to think that by then buying random hardware screwing with it then letting some unsuspecting person buy it afterwards is ok....oh Im sorry it doesnt hurt anyone. What if by some chance some young kid whos saved up over the summer by busting his ass buys this card and your botched mod manages to fvck up after 3 months...he tries to RMA it and the company looks it over sees YOUR mod and refuses this kid.....that is moral right?
People like you honestly make me sick man.
And don't even try and tell me to practice what I preach because I do.
 

jrphoenix

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Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
I'm not an idiot, how can you claim that based on some OK, admittedly "immoral" ideas. That is even debatable, morality and whatnot, whether we humans have such or are just afraid of punishment. But, another debate for another time.

If I stepped on a card, (I dont think anyone in the world has done that by accident?), it would be my fault yes. But my whole point is that buying from bestbuy + returning will NOT damage the card in anyway if your careful, and all your basically doing is sampling for a card that doesn't have the 4 pipes broken. If Bestbuy wanted, they could sell whatever you returned for no loss, and the person who buys it won't have an problems with the card either. It can be considered like an 9800Se with a failed softmod. AFter the day, no harm is done, and Bestbuy probably could care less.


Your not an idiot.... your a thief that makes prices higher for everyone in the long run. To you I say :thumbsdown:
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
I'm not an idiot, how can you claim that based on some OK, admittedly "immoral" ideas. That is even debatable, morality and whatnot, whether we humans have such or are just afraid of punishment. But, another debate for another time.

If I stepped on a card, (I dont think anyone in the world has done that by accident?), it would be my fault yes. But my whole point is that buying from bestbuy + returning will NOT damage the card in anyway if your careful, and all your basically doing is sampling for a card that doesn't have the 4 pipes broken. If Bestbuy wanted, they could sell whatever you returned for no loss, and the person who buys it won't have an problems with the card either. It can be considered like an 9800Se with a failed softmod. AFter the day, no harm is done, and Bestbuy probably could care less.

That is just wrong man plain and simple.
To be honest I can't believe some people would sink that friggin low as to think that by then buying random hardware screwing with it then letting some unsuspecting person buy it afterwards is ok....oh Im sorry it doesnt hurt anyone. What if by some chance some young kid whos saved up over the summer by busting his ass buys this card and your botched mod manages to fvck up after 3 months...he tries to RMA it and the company looks it over sees YOUR mod and refuses this kid.....that is moral right?
People like you honestly make me sick man.
And don't even try and tell me to practice what I preach because I do.

Good call on the kid, I didn't even think of that.

So why don't you just go find a little kid and kick him in the face, ForceCalibur?
 

ForceCalibur

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Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
I'm not an idiot, how can you claim that based on some OK, admittedly "immoral" ideas. That is even debatable, morality and whatnot, whether we humans have such or are just afraid of punishment. But, another debate for another time.

If I stepped on a card, (I dont think anyone in the world has done that by accident?), it would be my fault yes. But my whole point is that buying from bestbuy + returning will NOT damage the card in anyway if your careful, and all your basically doing is sampling for a card that doesn't have the 4 pipes broken. If Bestbuy wanted, they could sell whatever you returned for no loss, and the person who buys it won't have an problems with the card either. It can be considered like an 9800Se with a failed softmod. AFter the day, no harm is done, and Bestbuy probably could care less.

That is just wrong man plain and simple.
To be honest I can't believe some people would sink that friggin low as to think that by then buying random hardware screwing with it then letting some unsuspecting person buy it afterwards is ok....oh Im sorry it doesnt hurt anyone. What if by some chance some young kid whos saved up over the summer by busting his ass buys this card and your botched mod manages to fvck up after 3 months...he tries to RMA it and the company looks it over sees YOUR mod and refuses this kid.....that is moral right?
People like you honestly make me sick man.
And don't even try and tell me to practice what I preach because I do.

No... didn't I already admit this ISN"T MORAL? :)

Anyhow, Bestbuy does not simply relist their items that are returned defective. I was just giving a worst case scenario example.

Sure you can say its wrong, and I agree plain and simple. No arguments with that heh. It just depends on how OK you are with doing something so "wrong". There are much worse things out there, and one person doing this isn't going to change the big picture, society won't come tumbling down, and ATI won't stop making graphics cards. (And none of that what if everyone does it then? Cause its not going to happen, few people will attempt hardmods, or even know how to take off their HSF).
 

ForceCalibur

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
I'm not an idiot, how can you claim that based on some OK, admittedly "immoral" ideas. That is even debatable, morality and whatnot, whether we humans have such or are just afraid of punishment. But, another debate for another time.

If I stepped on a card, (I dont think anyone in the world has done that by accident?), it would be my fault yes. But my whole point is that buying from bestbuy + returning will NOT damage the card in anyway if your careful, and all your basically doing is sampling for a card that doesn't have the 4 pipes broken. If Bestbuy wanted, they could sell whatever you returned for no loss, and the person who buys it won't have an problems with the card either. It can be considered like an 9800Se with a failed softmod. AFter the day, no harm is done, and Bestbuy probably could care less.

That is just wrong man plain and simple.
To be honest I can't believe some people would sink that friggin low as to think that by then buying random hardware screwing with it then letting some unsuspecting person buy it afterwards is ok....oh Im sorry it doesnt hurt anyone. What if by some chance some young kid whos saved up over the summer by busting his ass buys this card and your botched mod manages to fvck up after 3 months...he tries to RMA it and the company looks it over sees YOUR mod and refuses this kid.....that is moral right?
People like you honestly make me sick man.
And don't even try and tell me to practice what I preach because I do.

Good call on the kid, I didn't even think of that.

So why don't you just go find a little kid and kick him in the face, ForceCalibur?

Again, BB nor any retailer does that. THey send back the card to ATI for repairs. SO this is not gonna happen and I won't have to kick any kid in the face. (I love kids! Ok, < 6 year old)
 

Nebor

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Sure you can say its wrong, and I agree plain and simple. No arguments with that heh. It just depends on how OK you are with doing something so "wrong". There are much worse things out there, and one person doing this isn't going to change the big picture, society won't come tumbling down, and ATI won't stop making graphics cards. (And none of that what if everyone does it then? Cause its not going to happen, few people will attempt hardmods, or even know how to take off their HSF).

I don't even think I need to add anything to that. You pretty much thrashed yourself there.
 

ForceCalibur

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Originally posted by: jrphoenix
Originally posted by: ForceCalibur
I'm not an idiot, how can you claim that based on some OK, admittedly "immoral" ideas. That is even debatable, morality and whatnot, whether we humans have such or are just afraid of punishment. But, another debate for another time.

If I stepped on a card, (I dont think anyone in the world has done that by accident?), it would be my fault yes. But my whole point is that buying from bestbuy + returning will NOT damage the card in anyway if your careful, and all your basically doing is sampling for a card that doesn't have the 4 pipes broken. If Bestbuy wanted, they could sell whatever you returned for no loss, and the person who buys it won't have an problems with the card either. It can be considered like an 9800Se with a failed softmod. AFter the day, no harm is done, and Bestbuy probably could care less.


Your not an idiot.... your a thief that makes prices higher for everyone in the long run. To you I say :thumbsdown:

If you had any knowledge of economics, I'm sure you'd realize your in no position to conclude on what affects prices in the long run when even economists have cannot do so accurately every single time. Again there are many factors going into the pricing scheme, and warranty/rma/return policy is covered by a firm's costs.