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TStep

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asus always screws me up. Is this an 8 pipe card? I didn't see it in the link or the Asus spec sheet.
 
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12 pipes and 492mhz core clocks for $200list would be interesting.
 
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Originally posted by: TStep
12 pipes and 492mhz core clocks for $200list would be interesting.
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Yep; this is ATI's answer to the 6600GT. Theoretically, it should outperform it for about the same price -- but it doesn't have SM3.0 (FWIW).

X800:X800Pro as X800XL:X800XT. A slower-clocked, cheaper version built on the new 110nm process.
 
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It is equal to the 6800NU.

It beats the 6600gt.

I guess ATI is taking this one.


x850XT, then the XL, now this :eek:

If this card has 256 bit memory aswell, well then :beer:
 
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Can't find the EAX800/TD/128 on the Asus website, but the specs from the 256mb card are 256bit mem. I wonder if that will hold for the 128mb version:

Extreme AX800/2DTV

Graphics Engine ATI Radeon X800
Video Memory 256 MB DDR
Engine Clock 392MHz
Memory Clock 700MHz(350MHz DDR)
RAMDAC 400MHz
Bus Standard 16 lanes PCI Express
Memory Interface 256-bit
Max Resolution 2048x1536
 
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fstime

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Jeez, 256 mb of memory too. Thats killer.

Looks like the end of the 6600gt.
 
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TStep

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Here it's listed as 256bit mem.

ASUS EXTREME AX800/TD/128, RADEON X800, 128MB DDR3, 256-BIT, PCI-E X16, VIDEO IN, DVI, TV OUT, RETAIL
 
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Well the 6600gt is faster than the 9800p, this has got to be faster because of 12 pipes, 256 bit memory, so yeah, its a 9800p killer =D

$300 for the NU is way to much right now.

If Nvidia wants to beat this thing, we better see those prices drop.

(PCI-e of course)
 
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That german website also showed it overclocking to 450MHz core and 950MHz on the RAM, which is pretty sweet.

Here is a performance comparison with the 6600GT.
Wins at everything except Doom 3.
 
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Originally posted by: TStep
392mhz, same speed as the XL and 110nm. 12>16 mods hackers delight?
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Plus 100+ mhz on the ram and 42+ on the cpu from the 6800NU.
 
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I would Say its the Answer to the 6800NU, both being 12 pipes.

The 6600GT's now can be found regularly for $160(but are only 8 pipes), and 6800 NU's for $199.


Its very comparible to the 6800NU. The 800 seems to be a bit faster in most tests probably becuase the 800 uses ddr3, and the 6800's do not.

But the 6800 has been cheaper and more available for quite awhile. I have a 6800 myself. But if the prices are the same, the 800 probably is a slighty better buy becuase of the ddr3.

Just my 2 cents.


Edit: after further review... anyone have and answer to this question.. Why does the 6600GT have ddr3 mem clocked at 1000, but the 800's are clocked at 700? I know there must be a reason, but it escapes me, and i have less experience with ATI then I do Nvidia.


 
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6600GT's may come down as a result - to about $130.00 shipped within about 3-4 months.
 
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Originally posted by: bradyapba
I would Say its the Answer to the 6800NU, both being 12 pipes.

The 6600GT's now can be found regularly for $160(but are only 8 pipes), and 6800 NU's for $199.


Its very comparible to the 6800NU. The 800 seems to be a bit faster in most tests probably becuase the 800 uses ddr3, and the 6800's do not.

But the 6800 has been cheaper and more available for quite awhile. I have a 6800 myself. But if the prices are the same, the 800 probably is a slighty better buy becuase of the ddr3.

Just my 2 cents.


Edit: after further review... anyone have and answer to this question.. What does the 6600GT have ddr3 mem clocked at 1000, but the 800's are clocked at 700? I know there must be a reason, but it escapes me, and i have less experience with ATI then I do Nvidia.
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If you're comparing it to the 6600gt, then the x800 can afford to have lower clocked memory, because of its 256-bit bus, so it still has more bandwidth than the 128-bit 6600gt.

About the x800, it's too bad this card arrived this late in the game, otherwise it would have definitely been a more powerful card over the 6600gt, and probably would give a 6800 a good run for it's money. Also, if it was available in AGP, it would be a steal at $200. I was waiting to get this one when it was paper-launched, but then I got tired of waiting and got another card.
 
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I get that Munky... and I see your point...

But if thats the case why didn't they put DDR in the 800's, which cost less than DDR3 memory? The 800 has DDR3... it makes no since to clock it at 700.. thats not nearly using the DDR3 to its potential.... if you were going to clock it at 700, you would use the cheaper DDR chips like the 6800 does?

 
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They could very well be working with a standardized PCB and the memory modules themselves may be of lower speed.
 
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Matthias99

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Originally posted by: bradyapba
I get that Munky... and I see your point...

But if thats the case why didn't they put DDR in the 800's, which cost less than DDR3 memory? The 800 has DDR3... it makes no since to clock it at 700.. thats not nearly using the DDR3 to its potential.... if you were going to clock it at 700, you would use the cheaper DDR chips like the 6800 does?
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There are multiple grades/speeds of GDDR3, as with most RAM. It's probably cheaper to buy slower GDDR3 than to design a new memory controller just so you can save a few bucks on the RAM (assuming that the X800 and X800XL cores are identical except for the different number of pipes).

Either that, or the cards are actually using regular DDR and the specs are wrong.
 
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Originally posted by: Matthias99
Originally posted by: bradyapba
I get that Munky... and I see your point...

But if thats the case why didn't they put DDR in the 800's, which cost less than DDR3 memory? The 800 has DDR3... it makes no since to clock it at 700.. thats not nearly using the DDR3 to its potential.... if you were going to clock it at 700, you would use the cheaper DDR chips like the 6800 does?
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There are multiple grades/speeds of GDDR3, as with most RAM. It's probably cheaper to buy slower GDDR3 than to design a new memory controller just so you can save a few bucks on the RAM (assuming that the X800 and X800XL cores are identical except for the different number of pipes).

Either that, or the cards are actually using regular DDR and the specs are wrong.
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Ah, see these are the answers im looking for! I didn't know there was different levels of DDR3, and they mem controller idea, based off a standard board makes sense too! You guys are making me think I like it!

I orginally thought the specs were wrong :)

 
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bradyapba

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could be, i never looked at that..... since i am an AGP guy... the thought of PCI-e never dawned on me.. so yeah, if thats PCi-e, its very comparible to the 6800, and if the PCI-e 6800 are indeed $300 (i haven't checked) thats a steal.


 
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Id like to see some real reviews of this card, looks very promising.

It took them long enough though.
 
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