Seekermeister

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Reading from Everest, I'm getting some reading that I don't think are right, but I'm not sure how serious they are. The core voltage is supposed to be between 1.35 to 1.40, but it is varying between 1.34 to 1.39, and with a little more frequency than I'm accustomed to. But the specs given for it on ZZF are here:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80726-1

The voltage given is only 1.30 to 1.35, which would mean that it is going to high, instead of low.

I also noticed that the description of the processor is not what I expected. I order the 4400+ version that was supposed to be 89W, rather than the 110W, but the maximum wattage is given as 110W. The model on the box agreed with that which I ordered, but the variation of numbers is making me wonder. I also noticed that the CPU and core temperatures are a little warmer than my old 3500+, even though I did a badly needed cleaning of the rig. With the lower wattage, I expected it to be cooler, but then is the wattage for each core or overall?
 

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Software readings should be taken with a grain of salt in most cases. Your mainboard may under/over volt, and if you are concerned about the levels try manually setting it to run @ 1.25 - 1.3v and then stress the system for stability. As long as your full load temps are <65C you'll be fine.
 

F1shF4t

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My asus A8V deluxe used to over volt the cpu always, in fact every asus board i used to date over volted the cpu by a bit, so i'm not suprised.
Also what version of everest are u using cause the older version could just not detect ur cpu properly.
 

Seekermeister

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It is an older version (2.01.347), but I also checked with CPU-Z and it showed it even higher (1.393-1.440).
 

F1shF4t

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Originally posted by: Seekermeister
I also noted that CPU-Z shows the stepping at 2 and the ZZF ad said that it should be E6.

Have a look under "Revision" in cpu-z, it should have E6 at the end.
 

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I was confused too about these software readings, I was wondering why it shows my voltages flucuating higher than what I had set it to before, now I know. Can one buy a mechanical device to measure the voltage acurately then?
 

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I had not messed with it before, but I disabled the AI and reset the CPU from 1.35 to 1.30, and that appears to have taken care of the overvoltage. But, the part of my question dealing with the wattage still remains unanswered. Is the 100 volt maximum reading by Everest simply a misreading, or is there something about this value that I do not understand (should be 89 watts)?
 

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Originally posted by: Seekermeister
Is the 100 volt maximum reading by Everest simply a misreading, or is there something about this value that I do not understand (should be 89 watts)?

Everest may not be identifying it properly. One way to be sure is to remove the HSF from the cpu, write down the marking on the heatspreader, and post them in this thread or search AMD's website. :)

 

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While I'll admit that I never looked for it, I do not remember ever seeing any marking on it. I'm sure that I would have done so, if the marking was on the mating surface on the bottom, and there was nothing there. Where would I look?
 

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Originally posted by: John
Originally posted by: Seekermeister
Is the 100 volt maximum reading by Everest simply a misreading, or is there something about this value that I do not understand (should be 89 watts)?

Everest may not be identifying it properly. One way to be sure is to remove the HSF from the cpu, write down the marking on the heatspreader, and post them in this thread or search AMD's website. :)

A pic of markings on the heatspreader - now write down the OPN

Now go to this URL to see the details on the OPN

4400+ Side By Side Comparison

Don't forget to clean off the old thermal grease on the cpu & HSF and apply a small BB size drop of grease in the center of the heatspreader. Here are detailed instructions.






 

Seekermeister

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The term "heatspreader" threw me, because I thought that referred to the heatsink, rather than the cpu. The OPN is ADV4400CDBOX, which appears to be a mixture of those given in your link.
 

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You didn't remove the heatsink from the cpu because that OPN is from the box. :p

Regardless, the ADV tells you that it is the 89w version.

ADV = 89w
ADA = 110w
 

Seekermeister

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You're right. I was too lazy to tear the rig apart to find the number. I wonder why they don't match the numbers precisely on the box and on the processor?
 

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Originally posted by: Seekermeister
You're right. I was too lazy to tear the rig apart to find the number. I wonder why they don't match the numbers precisely on the box and on the processor?

Probably because they don't bother printing new boxes every time they switch processor core revisions.
 

Seekermeister

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That would be reasonable, except the number is on a small sticker, rather than on the box. Since the sticker is changed (ADV vs ADA), the question remains.