X2 price drop...

[Nocturnal]

It's kinda hard to believe. What are your honest opinions?

 

[DrMrLordX]

Yes, at least for the 89W versions.

The EE and EE SFF versions will be a bit more.

 

[Furen]

I think it'll happen. I suppose having 3800+ X2s be 300 bucks for so long kind of makes it unbelievable, lol. The only reason for this not to happen is if Intel pushes back Conroe's launch. AMD has clearly made its price drops contingent on Conroe's launch (that's why they're set to take effect one day after) so if there's nothing to fight off then AMD won't drop prices. Personally, I think Conroes will be pretty damn rare at launch so having cheap X2s available and Conroes unavailable may push some people to go AMD.

 

[Griswold]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
Yes, at least for the 89W versions.

The EE and EE SFF versions will be a bit more.

:thumbsup:

 

[imported_Husky55]

Furen, you are very astute!!! I just might build another AMD system if Intel cannot supply Conroe to end users.

 

[imported_Husky55]

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[Ika]

I think AMD will be forced to drop prices, whether or not Conroe delivers on its promise. The Pentium D prices are so damn low that AMD has a hard time competing in anything but games. The second-top of the line PD costs just around $330, while the rest of the PDs are way lower, down to $110... while the bottom of the line X2 costs around $300... what assumptions will ordinary consumers make? "Well I want to save money and Intel has these cool "dualcore" processors, they'll definitely give me twice the performace, and look how cheap they are!"

 

[broly8877]

With the E6300 being ~$190, I don't see why AMD wouldn't drop the X2 3800+'s price to ~$150

 

[Hyperlite]

Did we ever figure out if opteron prices will be effected as well?

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Did we ever figure out if opteron prices will be effected as well?

Very doubtful since they recently raised the prices to keep regular consumers from purchasing Opterons.

 

[FreedomGUNDAM]

I'm patiently wait for the price drops b4 buying a new mobo and processer

 

[coldpower27]

Well considering it's falling to 169US I can believe it. We will have to see if it falls to 150US.

 

[Absolute0]

I can see it happening but not on 7/23 like articles have said. I think it'll be another month or two before you can actually buy them at that price.

 

[mshan]

Can anyone comment on what sort of differences I might see between an Athlon 64 3200+ Venice single core and an dual core 3800+, both for gaming and for general purpose gaming?

(I am going to upgrade from my current Asus A7N8X v2 Deluxe / Athlon XP 2500+ to this MSI mATX 6150 mobo that I have ordered and was planning on using a 3200+ Venice in it because prices on it, both new and used, seem to be dropping fast right now).

Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Ranulf]

Dual core won't offer much (if at all) over single core for gaming unless you run a bunch of apps in the background along with your games. Its certainly nice when gaming and then tabbing out to surf the web, IM, chat etc..

 

[mshan]

Is there a ceiling of cpu speed above which you really don't see any perceptible difference (single core) for gaming and general purpose computing?

 

[HomeAppraiser]

Will single core Athlon64 prices drop also?

 

[mshan]

I believe they already are (brand new OEM A64 Venice 3200+ at Newegg.com is $99 right now); just not sure exactly how low these new prices will drop after Conroe and AM2 are fully in the marketplace.

 

[RallyMaster]

http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1779_large_full_pricing.png

scary. 169 for X2 3800+.

 

[golem]

Isn't AMD still capacity constrained? Pretty much selling every chip they can make? IF this is still the case, how can they halve the price of their cheapest dual core and hope to have enough supply to meet demand? This sort of leads me to doubt x2 3800 will have a 50% price reduction the day after conroe launch, maybe as capacity increases, but not right away.

 

[A554SS1N]

Originally posted by: golem
Isn't AMD still capacity constrained? Pretty much selling every chip they can make? IF this is still the case, how can they halve the price of their cheapest dual core and hope to have enough supply to meet demand? This sort of leads me to doubt x2 3800 will have a 50% price reduction the day after conroe launch, maybe as capacity increases, but not right away.

Well, if you look at it another way, because a load of people will start buying Intel Conroe chips, the price-cuts could esentially just be there to keep the same number of sales as they're getting now, without creating more demand, just keeping the current demand static.

 

[broly8877]

But slashing profit/revenue.

They'll probably be losing money (or breaking even) on those until 65nm, good thing those are just a few months away.

 

[golem]

Originally posted by: A554SS1N

Originally posted by: golem
Isn't AMD still capacity constrained? Pretty much selling every chip they can make? IF this is still the case, how can they halve the price of their cheapest dual core and hope to have enough supply to meet demand? This sort of leads me to doubt x2 3800 will have a 50% price reduction the day after conroe launch, maybe as capacity increases, but not right away.

Well, if you look at it another way, because a load of people will start buying Intel Conroe chips, the price-cuts could esentially just be there to keep the same number of sales as they're getting now, without creating more demand, just keeping the current demand static.

That's a good point, but they must expect a huge drop off in demand to have to cut prices by 50%. If the expected lack of availability of Conroe happens, they shouldn't have to make such a drastic price cut right away.

 

[babcom]

Originally posted by: golem

That's a good point, but they must expect a huge drop off in demand to have to cut prices by 50%. If the expected lack of availability of Conroe happens, they shouldn't have to make such a drastic price cut right away.

Unless AMD has inside information that tells them that Intel has a sufficient supply of Conroe chips to meet demand?...

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Ranulf
Dual core won't offer much (if at all) over single core for gaming unless you run a bunch of apps in the background along with your games. Its certainly nice when gaming and then tabbing out to surf the web, IM, chat etc..

Well, there are a few games out there that make use of dual core. Quake 4 comes to mind as having the most impressive gains when utilizing a second core.